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Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:38 am
by D1B
The more I read about this guy, the more I dislike him. Typical mealy-mouthed conk who says he's a christian but exhibits no christian values at all, except telling everyone he's a christian and making sure people see him at or near a church.
As I look at the ideas that Paul Ryan brings to battle, I see nothing in them that supports the Janesville that helped make me, and him, who we are today. I see nothing in them to suggest he recognizes the privileges he garnered simply by birth into a successful family. I see nothing in his ideas that reflects Catholic social teaching about finding dignity in communities that give preference to the poor and vulnerable. None of this makes any sense to me if I try to think of Paul Ryan as a sincere, thoughtful, bold leader. It makes more sense if I think of him as someone protecting his privilege, or as someone with a poorly formed sociological imagination.
http://milieuxmorass.wordpress.com/2012 ... an-and-me/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:42 am
by psychoCAT
What I don't get is all the blue hairs that are getting upset. Both his and Obama's plan is targeting more towards the under 55 crowd. No disrespect to our elderly, but just because you've lived longer than me doesn't mean I owe you the golden goose.
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:54 am
by kalm
As mentioned before, he's a confused randian with a hero complex. Government didn't build his family's business, they simply paid his family handsomely for public works projects!

Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:09 am
by Gil Dobie
D1B wrote:The more I read about this guy, the more I dislike him. Typical mealy-mouthed conk who says he's a christian but exhibits no christian values at all, except telling everyone he's a christian and making sure people see him at or near a church.
So you dislike him because he doesn't exhibit Christian values
I doubt you would like him if he did exhibit Christian values

Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:39 am
by GannonFan
D1B wrote:The more I read about this guy, the more I dislike him. Typical mealy-mouthed conk who says he's a christian but exhibits no christian values at all, except telling everyone he's a christian and making sure people see him at or near a church.
As I look at the ideas that Paul Ryan brings to battle, I see nothing in them that supports the Janesville that helped make me, and him, who we are today. I see nothing in them to suggest he recognizes the privileges he garnered simply by birth into a successful family. I see nothing in his ideas that reflects Catholic social teaching about finding dignity in communities that give preference to the poor and vulnerable. None of this makes any sense to me if I try to think of Paul Ryan as a sincere, thoughtful, bold leader. It makes more sense if I think of him as someone protecting his privilege, or as someone with a poorly formed sociological imagination.
http://milieuxmorass.wordpress.com/2012 ... an-and-me/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Donks are big on the whole "say you're religious and get some good media photos near a church" thing too - it's called being a politician.
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:44 am
by Baldy
Panicking Donks are in full smear mode.

Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:55 am
by dbackjon
Baldy wrote:Panicking Donks are in full smear mode.

Only one panicking are the conks who got no boost from Ryan, and now are cringing because Ryan = Akin, and are wondering if they are gettting legitimately raped, or some other Ryan-Akin definition
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:06 am
by Grizalltheway
dbackjon wrote:Baldy wrote:Panicking Donks are in full smear mode.

Only one panicking are the conks who got no boost from Ryan, and now are cringing because Ryan = Akin, and are wondering if they are gettting legitimately raped, or some other Ryan-Akin definition

Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:30 am
by kalm
Grizalltheway wrote:dbackjon wrote:
Only one panicking are the conks who got no boost from Ryan, and now are cringing because Ryan = Akin, and are wondering if they are gettting legitimately raped, or some other Ryan-Akin definition

Yeah this
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:33 am
by AZGrizFan
dbackjon wrote:Baldy wrote:Panicking Donks are in full smear mode.

Only one panicking are the conks who got no boost from Ryan, and now are cringing because Ryan = Akin, and are wondering if they are gettting legitimately raped, or some other Ryan-Akin definition
Perhaps you missed the latest poll.

Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:36 am
by 89Hen
Baldy wrote:Panicking Donks are in full smear mode.

Especially the ones who claimed to know and like Paul Ryan before he got the nod.

Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:36 am
by kalm
AZGrizFan wrote:dbackjon wrote:
Only one panicking are the conks who got no boost from Ryan, and now are cringing because Ryan = Akin, and are wondering if they are gettting legitimately raped, or some other Ryan-Akin definition
Perhaps you missed the latest poll.

That's not like Jon...is it?
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:37 am
by AZGrizFan
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:43 am
by Baldy
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:37 am
by dbackjon
AZGrizFan wrote:dbackjon wrote:
Only one panicking are the conks who got no boost from Ryan, and now are cringing because Ryan = Akin, and are wondering if they are gettting legitimately raped, or some other Ryan-Akin definition
Perhaps you missed the latest poll.

Which one is that?
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:52 am
by AZGrizFan
dbackjon wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
Perhaps you missed the latest poll.

Which one is that?
The one that shows Romney with a 45-44 advantage among likely voters. The one in which independents backed Romney 42-32%.
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:02 am
by dbackjon
AZGrizFan wrote:dbackjon wrote:
Which one is that?
The one that shows Romney with a 45-44 advantage among likely voters. The one in which independents backed Romney 42-32%.
Again, which one?
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:21 am
by AZGrizFan
dbackjon wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
The one that shows Romney with a 45-44 advantage among likely voters. The one in which independents backed Romney 42-32%.
Again, which one?
The one that shows 56% of the voters disapprove of Obama's job performance.
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:50 pm
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:dbackjon wrote:
Again, which one?
The one that shows 56% of the voters disapprove of Obama's job performance.
Or the one that shows 12% of voters approve of the current conkgress.
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:52 pm
by D1B
Z, own your mistake. That will follow you forever.
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:54 pm
by dbackjon
AZGrizFan wrote:dbackjon wrote:
Again, which one?
The one that shows 56% of the voters disapprove of Obama's job performance.
Is this a Rush Limbaugh poll? FoxNoise poll?
Every poll I have seen show Romney with a HIGHER disaproval rating than Obama. Obama may stink in the eyes of the voters, but next to Romney/Ryan/Akin, Obama is a sweet smelling flower.
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:09 pm
by dbackjon
Friday, August 24
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Romney vs. Obama CNN/Opinion Research Obama 49, Romney 47 Obama +2
General Election: Romney vs. Obama Gallup Tracking Obama 46, Romney 46 Tie
General Election: Romney vs. Obama Rasmussen Tracking Obama 45, Romney 46 Romney +1
Virginia: Romney vs. Obama Rasmussen Reports Obama 47, Romney 47 Tie
Colorado: Romney vs. Obama Keating (D) Obama 48, Romney 44 Obama +4
Missouri: Romney vs. Obama Rasmussen Reports Romney 46, Obama 47 Obama +1
Virginia Senate - Allen vs. Kaine Rasmussen Reports Kaine 45, Allen 45 Tie
President Obama Job Approval CNN/Opinion Research Approve 50, Disapprove 47 Approve +3
President Obama Job Approval Gallup Approve 47, Disapprove 47 Tie
President Obama Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 48, Disapprove 51 Disapprove +3
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So you are just looking at the Rasmussen and hanging your hopes on a Republican-leaning poll. You betcha!
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:10 pm
by dbackjon
Or maybe as I speculated fox noise... President Obama Job Approval FOX News Approve 46, Disapprove 50 Disapprove +4
Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:16 pm
by Gil Dobie
dbackjon wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
The one that shows 56% of the voters disapprove of Obama's job performance.
Is this a Rush Limbaugh poll? FoxNoise poll?
Every poll I have seen show Romney with a HIGHER disaproval rating than Obama. Obama may stink in the eyes of the voters, but next to Romney/Ryan/Akin, Obama is a sweet smelling flower.
......since he quit smoking, he no longer smells like an ashtray.

Re: Paul Ryan - doesn't make any sense
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:33 pm
by Baldy
dbackjon wrote:Friday, August 24
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Romney vs. Obama CNN/Opinion Research Obama 49, Romney 47 Obama +2
General Election: Romney vs. Obama Gallup Tracking Obama 46, Romney 46 Tie
General Election: Romney vs. Obama Rasmussen Tracking Obama 45, Romney 46 Romney +1
Virginia: Romney vs. Obama Rasmussen Reports Obama 47, Romney 47 Tie
Colorado: Romney vs. Obama Keating (D) Obama 48, Romney 44 Obama +4
Missouri: Romney vs. Obama Rasmussen Reports Romney 46, Obama 47 Obama +1
Virginia Senate - Allen vs. Kaine Rasmussen Reports Kaine 45, Allen 45 Tie
President Obama Job Approval CNN/Opinion Research Approve 50, Disapprove 47 Approve +3
President Obama Job Approval Gallup Approve 47, Disapprove 47 Tie
President Obama Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 48, Disapprove 51 Disapprove +3
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So you are just looking at the Rasmussen and hanging your hopes on a Republican-leaning poll. You betcha!
And how many of those polls are oversampling Donks between 5% and 12%?
You can cry all you want, but it has been proven that Rasmussen is the most accurate poll out there.
