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Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:24 am
by JohnStOnge
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On one occasion, Barr called a colleague in his hotel room and screamed using sexually explicit language, telling him she 'wanted his c*** in the back of [her] throat'.
I dunno. Wouldn't upset me.
I mean, OK, if I really thought she did that other thing where she denied me a job I was really more qualified for in order to put a female in the position I wouldn't like that. But that just kind of goes with the territory of being a White Male right now.
As far as the lewd conduct goes: Nah. That wouldn't bother me unless she did something like say she was going to make my work life miserable if I didn't put out.
Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:59 am
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ds-newsxml
On one occasion, Barr called a colleague in his hotel room and screamed using sexually explicit language, telling him she 'wanted his c*** in the back of [her] throat'.
I dunno. Wouldn't upset me.
I mean, OK, if I really thought she did that other thing where she denied me a job I was really more qualified for in order to put a female in the position I wouldn't like that. But that just kind of goes with the territory of being a White Male right now.
As far as the lewd conduct goes: Nah. That wouldn't bother me unless she did something like say she was going to make my work life miserable if I didn't put out.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:05 am
by Ibanez
Have you seen the movie, Horrible Bosses? Jennifer Aniston plays a dentist that wants to fuck her hygenist, Charlie Day. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:24 am
by Pwns
Wouldn't really care all that much about the sexually explicit remarks. But things like the moving of office equipment to the bathroom, I'd have something to say about that.
And BTW, this is the type of thing that happens when hires are made for diversity-based reasons. You can't tell me Obama was determined to make a woman the DHS and that there are plenty of men out there who would be more qualified.
Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:43 am
by Baldy
Ibanez wrote:Have you seen the movie, Horrible Bosses? Jennifer Aniston plays a dentist that wants to fuck her hygenist, Charlie Day. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
No shit...
Then again, the chick from the DHS, is definitely no Jennifer Aniston.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:15 am
by D1B
Baldy wrote:Ibanez wrote:Have you seen the movie, Horrible Bosses? Jennifer Aniston plays a dentist that wants to fuck her hygenist, Charlie Day. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
No shit...
Then again, Obama ruined the nation faster than any president since LBJ

FIFY

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:40 pm
by blueballs
Totally classless and unprofessional... I wouldn't want to have anything to do with her professionally and probably not personally either.
Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:05 pm
by AZGrizFan
blueballs wrote:Totally classless and unprofessional... I wouldn't want to have anything to do with her professionally and probably not personally either.
Agreed. But as soon as I quit and won my huge lawsuit I'd fulfill her fantasy.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:24 pm
by JohnStOnge
kalm wrote:

Not
But not
either.
Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:45 pm
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:kalm wrote:

Not
But not
either.
Yegads. Upset? No. A little scared...maybe.
I'm pretty unflappable when it comes to most things so it wouldn't bother me and I'm guessing she was completely hammered during most of these transgressions. I'd probably point that out to her the next day.
By the same token I happen to think men and women are completely different so while her behavior isn't really that big of a deal to me, it's obviously a different situation if it's a dude saying those type of things to female staff.
Plus it's completely dissappointing that she's not hot.
Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:49 pm
by JohnStOnge
Plus it's completely dissappointing that she's not hot.
Oh c'mon you'd take it at closing time. If you were single that is. Of course none of us married folks would because we're noble.
Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:16 pm
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:Plus it's completely dissappointing that she's not hot.
Oh c'mon you'd take it at closing time. If you were single that is. Of course none of us married folks would because we're noble.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:01 pm
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:I'm pretty unflappable when it comes to most things so it wouldn't bother me and I'm guessing she was completely hammered during most of these transgressions. I'd probably point that out to her the next day.
By the same token I happen to think men and women are completely different so while her behavior isn't really that big of a deal to me, it's obviously a different situation if it's a dude saying those type of things to female staff.
If I read her correctly, if you did point out what she said the next day, and remind her that she was hammered when she said it, you'd probably not be getting any promotions anytime soon.
So tell me again what, exactly, is the difference in the situation when a man says that to a female staff person versus when a woman says that to a male staff person?

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:03 pm
by kalm
Cluck U wrote:kalm wrote:I'm pretty unflappable when it comes to most things so it wouldn't bother me and I'm guessing she was completely hammered during most of these transgressions. I'd probably point that out to her the next day.
By the same token I happen to think men and women are completely different so while her behavior isn't really that big of a deal to me, it's obviously a different situation if it's a dude saying those type of things to female staff.
If I read her correctly, if you did point out what she said the next day, and remind her that she was hammered when she said it, you'd probably not be getting any promotions anytime soon.
So tell me again what, exactly, is the difference in the situation when a man says that to a female staff person versus when a woman says that to a male staff person?

Listen up, Helen Gurly Brown. I says they're different...and should be treated differently.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:26 pm
by SeattleGriz
Cluck U wrote:kalm wrote:I'm pretty unflappable when it comes to most things so it wouldn't bother me and I'm guessing she was completely hammered during most of these transgressions. I'd probably point that out to her the next day.
By the same token I happen to think men and women are completely different so while her behavior isn't really that big of a deal to me, it's obviously a different situation if it's a dude saying those type of things to female staff.
If I read her correctly, if you did point out what she said the next day, and remind her that she was hammered when she said it, you'd probably not be getting any promotions anytime soon.
So tell me again what, exactly, is the difference in the situation when a man says that to a female staff person versus when a woman says that to a male staff person?

Holy shit man. Let me be REAL simple here. You got a dick, she don't.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:02 pm
by Grizo406
Baldy wrote:Ibanez wrote:Have you seen the movie, Horrible Bosses? Jennifer Aniston plays a dentist that wants to fuck her hygenist, Charlie Day. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
No shit...

No shit indeed!
When I watched
Horrible Bosses and heard Jennifer Anniston's character say:
"Mmm...I watched an episode of Gossip Girl last night. I fingered myself so hard to that Penn Badgley guy, I broke a nail."...hearing that from her, caused me to rub one out.
After the movie was over, I was firmly convinced that Charlie Day is either a big fan, or an alum of Coastal Carolina.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:52 am
by Vidav
SeattleGriz wrote:Cluck U wrote:
If I read her correctly, if you did point out what she said the next day, and remind her that she was hammered when she said it, you'd probably not be getting any promotions anytime soon.
So tell me again what, exactly, is the difference in the situation when a man says that to a female staff person versus when a woman says that to a male staff person?

Holy shit man. Let me be REAL simple here. You got a dick, she don't.

Doesn't make a woman saying it OK.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:14 am
by kalm
Vidav wrote:SeattleGriz wrote:
Holy shit man. Let me be REAL simple here. You got a dick, she don't.

Doesn't make a woman saying it OK.

Unless she's hot.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:47 am
by UNI88
kalm wrote:Cluck U wrote:
If I read her correctly, if you did point out what she said the next day, and remind her that she was hammered when she said it, you'd probably not be getting any promotions anytime soon.
So tell me again what, exactly, is the difference in the situation when a man says that to a female staff person versus when a woman says that to a male staff person?

Listen up, Helen Gurly Brown. I says they're different...and should be treated differently.

I thought you were a progressive? If they're different and can be treated differently in this respect than they can be treated differently in other respects such as pay. You can't say we want equality in all of the good stuff such as pay, no glass ceilings, etc. but not in the potentially bad stuff like sexual harassment. It's a package deal, the bad comes with the good.
If her comments only make 1 out of 100 guys feel uncomfortable, even if they were directed to a different guy, they're sexual harassment and wrong.
Change your position or hand in your Progressive Card immediately!

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:03 pm
by JohnStOnge
So tell me again what, exactly, is the difference in the situation when a man says that to a female staff person versus when a woman says that to a male staff person?
I think the difference is that men are far less likely to get in a wad over it when a female superior says something off color to them. Men are, I think, much less likely to feel like they have to go running to "Daddy" or "Mommy" because somebody said something suggestive, derogatory, or offensive. I think they have more of a "grown ups can handle that sort of thing" mentality.
I think about that concept of "workplace harassment" sometimes in the context of what it was like when I worked a couple of summers at an oil refinery just after high school. What those old guys did to college kids there for summer jobs....well...talk about harassment.
To me it's really pathetic that we've gotten to the point where people can go whining to the government when they get harassed at work, etc. Just buck up and handle it. And if you can't handle it that's natural selection at work.
Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:46 pm
by kalm
UNI88 wrote:kalm wrote:
Listen up, Helen Gurly Brown. I says they're different...and should be treated differently.

I thought you were a progressive? If they're different and can be treated differently in this respect than they can be treated differently in other respects such as pay. You can't say we want equality in all of the good stuff such as pay, no glass ceilings, etc. but not in the potentially bad stuff like sexual harassment. It's a package deal, the bad comes with the good.
If her comments only make 1 out of 100 guys feel uncomfortable, even if they were directed to a different guy, they're sexual harassment and wrong.
Change your position or hand in your Progressive Card immediately!

Teddy Roosevelt wouldn't have complained...he would have obliged her.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:46 pm
by SeattleGriz
Vidav wrote:SeattleGriz wrote:
Holy shit man. Let me be REAL simple here. You got a dick, she don't.

Doesn't make a woman saying it OK.

No it doesn't, but is that going change anytime soon? As a white male, I keep my mouth shut at work. Doesn't matter that I work with all women that make inappropriate comments, I still keep the yapper shut.
Plus, men are so much better at taking shit.
Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:37 am
by UNI88
kalm wrote:UNI88 wrote:
I thought you were a progressive? If they're different and can be treated differently in this respect than they can be treated differently in other respects such as pay. You can't say we want equality in all of the good stuff such as pay, no glass ceilings, etc. but not in the potentially bad stuff like sexual harassment. It's a package deal, the bad comes with the good.
If her comments only make 1 out of 100 guys feel uncomfortable, even if they were directed to a different guy, they're sexual harassment and wrong.
Change your position or hand in your Progressive Card immediately!

Teddy Roosevelt wouldn't have complained...he would have obliged her.

And then told her to get in the kitchen and make him a sammy.

Re: Would a female boss like this upset you?
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:43 am
by kalm
UNI88 wrote:
And then told her to get in the kitchen and make him a sammy.

While he went out hunting and breaking up monopolistic corporations.
