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Chizzang wrote:Please follow along:
In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since Homosexuality occurs naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-Homosexuality







Discuss...

CID1990 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Please follow along:
In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since Homosexuality occurs naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-Homosexuality







Discuss...

Actually I can answer this one for the religion side: according to the Old Testament, after the fall of man (before which man was without sin) and the casting out of Eden, along with self awareness came sin. From that point on we get places like Sodom and Gomorrah, Las Vegas, and Statesboro.

A more progressive Christian would drop the Adam and Eve part and just talk about free will being one of Gods creations.

Good job Clitz, you trolled up SK. Come to think of it, that isn't all that hard. Just throw out some Donk dogma and you'll get him within 3 posts every time. Like Pavlov's bell.

Chizzang wrote:Please follow along:
In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since mental disorders occurs naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-mental disorders







Discuss...

Chizzang wrote:Please follow along:
In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since melanoma occurs naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-cancer







Discuss...

Chizzang wrote:Please follow along:
In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since Homosexuality occurs naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-Homosexuality







Discuss...

Chizzang wrote:Please follow along:
In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since chaffing occurs naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-discomfort







Discuss...

Skjellyfetti wrote:Also... why the clit outside of the vagina and the prostate inside the rectum? Seems to be encouraging lesbian cunnilingus and male sodomy, imo.

As a True Believer, I feel we should begin to surgically remove all clitorises and prostates at birth so as not to encourage unnatural, non-reproductive sex.

andy7171 wrote:89hen has made three very valid points here.

Pwns wrote:Similarly, to be pro-evolution is to be anti-gay, right?

Obviously, there is some evolutionary purpose for not wanting gays to reproduce, right?
Maybe gayness is evolutions way of squeezing out individuals not worthy of propagating their genetic material?

Chizzang wrote:Please follow along:

In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since stupidity occur naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-stupidity

In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since death/extinction occur naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-death/extinction

In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since Darwin award winners occur naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-Darwin

In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since drug use occurs naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-drug use

In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since selfishness occur naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-selfishness

Discuss...

Pwns wrote:Similarly, to be pro-evolution is to be anti-gay, right?

Obviously, there is some evolutionary purpose for not wanting gays to reproduce, right?
Maybe gayness is evolutions way of squeezing out individuals not worthy of propagating their genetic material?

Turns out, the moms and aunts of gay men have an advantage over the moms and aunts of straight men for several reasons: They are more fertile, displaying fewer gynecological disorders or complications during pregnancy; they are more extroverted, as well as funnier, happier and more relaxed; and they have fewer family problems and social anxieties. "In other words, compared to the others, [they are] perfect for a male," Camperio Ciani said. Attracting and choosing from the best males enables these women to produce more offspring, he noted.

The new study will appear in an upcoming issue of the Journal of Sexual Medicine.

youngterrier wrote:

Pwns wrote:Similarly, to be pro-evolution is to be anti-gay, right?

Obviously, there is some evolutionary purpose for not wanting gays to reproduce, right?
Maybe gayness is evolutions way of squeezing out individuals not worthy of propagating their genetic material?

Supposedly, "gayness" as it's being referred to in this thread, was a development in social species that were patriarchal. In the sense that the patriarch was uber-aggressive in protecting his mates. It's beneficial in the sense that developing a homosexual tendency makes said patriarch less likely to kill you because he doesn't see you as a threat. And when he gets himself killed from being uber-aggressive, said homosexuals copulate with a mate.

I doubt you were being serious in your questioning, but I thought I'd throw this tidbit out anyway.

The more you knowwww.

89Hen wrote:

youngterrier wrote: Supposedly, "gayness" as it's being referred to in this thread, was a development in social species that were patriarchal. In the sense that the patriarch was uber-aggressive in protecting his mates. It's beneficial in the sense that developing a homosexual tendency makes said patriarch less likely to kill you because he doesn't see you as a threat. And when he gets himself killed from being uber-aggressive, said homosexuals copulate with a mate.

I doubt you were being serious in your questioning, but I thought I'd throw this tidbit out anyway.

The more you knowwww.

That's not entirely true. The "gayness" I was referring to was more from social species that were more utilitarian by nature. The individuals within the strata all served a more focused purpose for the betterment of the clan. Those developing a homosexual tendency for example are better at organizing the food collective by color, nutrition and freshness and also keeping an eye on cleanliness to avoid disease and foodborne pathogens. They also have an affinity for the choreography of the movement of the clan to keep everyone in a rythym.

youngterrier wrote:

89Hen wrote: That's not entirely true. The "gayness" I was referring to was more from social species that were more utilitarian by nature. The individuals within the strata all served a more focused purpose for the betterment of the clan. Those developing a homosexual tendency for example are better at organizing the food collective by color, nutrition and freshness and also keeping an eye on cleanliness to avoid disease and foodborne pathogens. They also have an affinity for the choreography of the movement of the clan to keep everyone in a rythym.

ah yes, we're discussing two different sort of theories in evolution, group-selection and gene-centered evolution.

I'd like to remind you that the example you describe above doesn't necessarily translate to homosexuality. One's ability to organize and keep an eye out for certain characteristics doesn't necessarily translate to be a homosexual, as you can develop those things regardless of orientation.

With that said, some tendencies do develop in the sexes naturally (such as men being less selective with their sexual partners than females, males having a tendency to be more aggressive, etc) and there could be some evolutionary benefit to "blending" tendencies, such as a strong male being with females doing female things in a primitive society. How that would translate to homosexual tendencies in loving penises as opposed to vaginas I'm uncertain, but in general I like my OP on the subject as a solution better (but I'm not an expert, so don't take my word for it)

Tod wrote:

Turns out, the moms and aunts of gay men have an advantage over the moms and aunts of straight men for several reasons: They are more fertile, displaying fewer gynecological disorders or complications during pregnancy; they are more extroverted, as well as funnier, happier and more relaxed; and they have fewer family problems and social anxieties. "In other words, compared to the others, [they are] perfect for a male," Camperio Ciani said. Attracting and choosing from the best males enables these women to produce more offspring, he noted.

The new study will appear in an upcoming issue of the Journal of Sexual Medicine.

http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/2555-gay-men.html

Interesting article...

Chizzang wrote:Please follow along:
In creationism God created The natural order of all things = Nature
Since Homosexuality occurs naturally in the order of things = Occurs in Nature
God by definition is Pro-Homosexuality







Discuss...

CID1990 wrote:

youngterrier wrote: ah yes, we're discussing two different sort of theories in evolution, group-selection and gene-centered evolution.

I'd like to remind you that the example you describe above doesn't necessarily translate to homosexuality. One's ability to organize and keep an eye out for certain characteristics doesn't necessarily translate to be a homosexual, as you can develop those things regardless of orientation.

With that said, some tendencies do develop in the sexes naturally (such as men being less selective with their sexual partners than females, males having a tendency to be more aggressive, etc) and there could be some evolutionary benefit to "blending" tendencies, such as a strong male being with females doing female things in a primitive society. How that would translate to homosexual tendencies in loving penises as opposed to vaginas I'm uncertain, but in general I like my OP on the subject as a solution better (but I'm not an expert, so don't take my word for it)

Hey YT, have you decided to go to cofc and be a fag, or to Wofford where you can freely practice metrosexualism?

Ibanez wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Hey YT, have you decided to go to cofc and be a fag, or to Wofford where you can freely practice metrosexualism?

I was downtown last weekend and astounded at all the gay guys. I mean, they were EVERYWHERE. It seems the CofC is now home to Gay Men and Grungey Dykes. I hope they don't start sunning on Marion Square.

Cluck U wrote:

Tod wrote:
http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/2555-gay-men.html

Interesting article...

Yes, Toodles....about as interesting as studies that say African-Americans are more aggressive, more impulsive, less intelligent, less committed, but are better athletes and have bigger johnsons so they end up dumping their stupid baby mamas, spending time in jail, addicted to the drug of the day, and killing their own kind. Or how about those studies that say Asians are smarter (but quiet), sneakier, yet more subservient? Then there's the multitude of studies that show Jews are better at managing their money and owning communications venues so that they are destined to control the thoughts of the world (and let's not even touch the studies about the mind blowing powers of annoyance of Jewish Princesses and unbelievably fun blowing powers of unmarried Catholic girls).

Studies...pay attention only to the ones that matter.