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If you were the parent or family member of the shooter in Colorado, would you stand by him and be there to support him through this or would you meet him once, tell him how you feel, and be done with him?

No way you could stand by somebody after that. Some crimes, yes you could. But not something like this.

Tough call. I would stand by my child through the trial and prison, but would have to accept the outcome. I'd still love my child.

Vidav wrote:No way you could stand by somebody after that. Some crimes, yes you could. But not something like this.

Child, parent, or friend, I would meet them, and tell them exactly what I thought of them and be done with them. Never give them a second thought.

grizzaholic wrote:

Vidav wrote:No way you could stand by somebody after that. Some crimes, yes you could. But not something like this.

Child, parent, or friend, I would meet them, and tell them exactly what I thought of them and be done with them. Never give them a second thought.

They probably wouldn't care.

Ibanez wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Child, parent, or friend, I would meet them, and tell them exactly what I thought of them and be done with them. Never give them a second thought.

They probably wouldn't care.

Probably not, crazy fucks.

Think of Timothy McVeigh's dad - that's how I'd be. Impossible to comprehend, heart-breakingly sad, yet he's your son so you stand by him unless he cuts you off. What else can you do?

http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/04/27/mc ... index.html

Or if your child kills himself too, I'd be like the Amish schoolhouse killer's mom:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/2 ... 87525.html

Pure evil exists in this world, and sometimes comes to inhabit those close to you, often through no fault of their own. Only love conquers this - hatred just propagates it.

And fwiw the VT shooter was from my old neighborhood - my son knew Cho, and trust me he was a loner but not the anti-christ (at least not when he was in middle school and high school) - his poor, poor parents...

Rob Iola wrote:Think of Timothy McVeigh's dad - that's how I'd be. Impossible to comprehend, heart-breakingly sad, yet he's your son so you stand by him unless he cuts you off. What else can you do?

http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/04/27/mc ... index.html

Or if your child kills himself too, I'd be like the Amish schoolhouse killer's mom:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/2 ... 87525.html

Pure evil exists in this world, and sometimes comes to inhabit those close to you, often through no fault of their own. Only love conquers this - hatred just propagates it.

And fwiw the VT shooter was from my old neighborhood - my son knew Cho, and trust me he was a loner but not the anti-christ (at least not when he was in middle school and high school) - his poor, poor parents...

good post

+1 ^

+2
Couldn't have said it any better.

Ibanez wrote:Tough call. I would stand by my child through the trial and prison, but would have to accept the outcome. I'd still love my child.

This. We're most like dealing with mental illness here.

Amazingly, I would stand with D1B here. If he's proven to be insane, you gotta stand by him through therapy.

Of course, if he's NOT proven insane, then screw him....

grizzaholic wrote:

Vidav wrote:No way you could stand by somebody after that. Some crimes, yes you could. But not something like this.

Child, parent, or friend, I would meet them, and tell them exactly what I thought of them and be done with them. Never give them a second thought.

Well, with that attitude, I could see why your offspring would be shooting people.

Cluck U wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Child, parent, or friend, I would meet them, and tell them exactly what I thought of them and be done with them. Never give them a second thought.

Well, with that attitude, I could see why your offspring would be shooting people.

I love my kids with all of my being but if they did something like this guy I wouldn't stand with them. They would no longer be a part of my life. This is a horrible thing and is unforgivable, even if they are my blood.

Vidav wrote:

Cluck U wrote:

Well, with that attitude, I could see why your offspring would be shooting people.

I love my kids with all of my being but if they did something like this guy I wouldn't stand with them. They would no longer be a part of my life. This is a horrible thing and is unforgivable, even if they are my blood.

Vidav wrote:

Cluck U wrote:

Well, with that attitude, I could see why your offspring would be shooting people.

I love my kids with all of my being but if they did something like this guy I wouldn't stand with them. They would no longer be a part of my life. This is a horrible thing and is unforgivable, even if they are my blood.

You said what I didn't have the "sack" to say!

I could never disown my kids. I can disapprove, even rebuke them for what they do, but I would suck up the criticism I would receive and support them.

I can't even fathom abandoning my kids. Ever, for any reason. Even if they become Donks.

CID1990 wrote:I could never disown my kids. I can disapprove, even rebuke them for what they do, but I would suck up the criticism I would receive and support them.

I can't even fathom abandoning my kids. Ever, for any reason. Even if they become Donks.

Happy birthday old balls.

D1B wrote:

Ibanez wrote:Tough call. I would stand by my child through the trial and prison, but would have to accept the outcome. I'd still love my child.

This. We're most like dealing with mental illness here.

There is already some noise coming from this event saying the guy is not a sociopath. His demeanor on Monday seems to be attributed to the post effect of mania.

The interesting point is that JH studied nueroscience. He understands all the conditions that doctors are going to try and label. He had an impressive grant from the Gov't. Is he intelligent enough to fake it?

CID1990 wrote:I could never disown my kids. I can disapprove, even rebuke them for what they do, but I would suck up the criticism I would receive and support them.

I can't even fathom abandoning my kids. Ever, for any reason. Even if they become Donks.

I don't understand that.

"Welcome home son. I know you just murdered and ate 23 babies but you are my son so I support you anyway."