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I'm not happy with this turn of events. The Long Beach was the first nuclear-powered non-carrier. As such, it was a history-maker, and SHOULD have been made into a museum ship in Long Beach, CA. But now it's been sold for scrap (i.e. it will be recycled).

I can understand doing this for other ships. But a ship as important as the first of its type ought to be a museum.



http://news.yahoo.com/worlds-first-nucl ... 01476.html

Speaking of ships, this one is my favorite!

The USS Michael Murphy DDG-112:

The Long Beach (CGN-9) was a pig. The superstructure of a carrier slapped onto a 600+ foot long hull....history or not, it had no business as a museum. Ugly POS...

The ultimate naval museum, IMO.

SuperHornet wrote:I'm not happy with this turn of events. The Long Beach was the first nuclear-powered non-carrier. As such, it was a history-maker, and SHOULD have been made into a museum ship in Long Beach, CA.

Not to be the asshole here, but WHY would someone wish for a ship to be converted into a museum?

So it can be a floating concession stand, children running around not respecting the place where people gave their lives....

Just watch how some veterans feel about the Enterprise on the final episode of Battle 360. This guy says it best at 3:05.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REYJYpwjdeA&feature=plcp[/youtube]

I agree with this gentleman 100%.


POST EDIT: GATW's is different IMO.

Grizo406 wrote:Speaking of ships, this one is my favorite!

The USS Michael Murphy DDG-112:

So, Clinton doesn't have a ship, but they'll name one after a Doobie Brother????

I've never been there, GATW, but from all reports I've heard, you are quite correct.

The one ship museum I HAVE been to is USS HORNET (CV-12), which honors both itself and its predecessor HORNET (CV-8). The latter Hornet picked up an astronaut after his pod landed in the ocean following a space flight.

For grizza: You're assuming the worst. Yes, you'll be correct in some cases. But I find that when kids are exposed to history, they for the most part will be respectful. If they don't visit these places (and battlefields such as Gettysburg), it'll be nothing more than words on a page if it's covered at all. That's a shame, IMO.

SuperHornet wrote:I've never been there, GATW, but from all reports I've heard, you are quite correct.

The one ship museum I HAVE been to is USS HORNET (CV-12), which honors both itself and its predecessor HORNET (CV-8). The latter Hornet picked up an astronaut after his pod landed in the ocean following a space flight.

For grizza: You're assuming the worst. Yes, you'll be correct in some cases. But I find that when kids are exposed to history, they for the most part will be respectful. If they don't visit these places (and battlefields such as Gettysburg), it'll be nothing more than words on a page if it's covered at all. That's a shame, IMO.

Just being first at something isn't enough to be worthy of a museum. There has to be more to the story if you want people to visit. It sucks to see a ship that served it's country being sold for scrap, but we can't save them all.

BlueHen86 wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:I've never been there, GATW, but from all reports I've heard, you are quite correct.

The one ship museum I HAVE been to is USS HORNET (CV-12), which honors both itself and its predecessor HORNET (CV-8). The latter Hornet picked up an astronaut after his pod landed in the ocean following a space flight.

For grizza: You're assuming the worst. Yes, you'll be correct in some cases. But I find that when kids are exposed to history, they for the most part will be respectful. If they don't visit these places (and battlefields such as Gettysburg), it'll be nothing more than words on a page if it's covered at all. That's a shame, IMO.

Just being first at something isn't enough to be worthy of a museum. There has to be more to the story if you want people to visit. It sucks to see a ship that served it's country being sold for scrap, but we can't save them all.

The coolest thing about the Long Beach was that it's decks were teak. i believe the last ship in active service to have such...

SuperHornet wrote:
For grizza: You're assuming the worst. Yes, you'll be correct in some cases. But I find that when kids are exposed to history, they for the most part will be respectful. If they don't visit these places (and battlefields such as Gettysburg), it'll be nothing more than words on a page if it's covered at all. That's a shame, IMO.

Nope, Grizza is right. I used to visit these hallowed places as a kid and I acted like an unmitigated asshole with my other school buddies. It wasn't until years later that I grew up and started appreciating history. Children and women should not be allowed to visit military museums is my basic point. You can probably throw gays and most minorities into that discussion as well. I mean, who has won the wars we've fought in? Straight white men and a few straight blacks and Navajos. That's who!

93henfan wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:
For grizza: You're assuming the worst. Yes, you'll be correct in some cases. But I find that when kids are exposed to history, they for the most part will be respectful. If they don't visit these places (and battlefields such as Gettysburg), it'll be nothing more than words on a page if it's covered at all. That's a shame, IMO.

Nope, Grizza is right. I used to visit these hallowed places as a kid and I acted like an unmitigated asshole with my other school buddies. It wasn't until years later that I grew up and started appreciating history. Children and women should not be allowed to visit military museums is my basic point. You can probably throw gays and most minorities into that discussion as well. I mean, who has won the wars we've fought in? Straight white men and a few straight blacks and Navajos. That's who!

93henfan wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:
For grizza: You're assuming the worst. Yes, you'll be correct in some cases. But I find that when kids are exposed to history, they for the most part will be respectful. If they don't visit these places (and battlefields such as Gettysburg), it'll be nothing more than words on a page if it's covered at all. That's a shame, IMO.

Nope, Grizza is right. I used to visit these hallowed places as a kid and I acted like an unmitigated asshole with my other school buddies. It wasn't until years later that I grew up and started appreciating history. Children and women should not be allowed to visit military museums is my basic point. You can probably throw gays and most minorities into that discussion as well. I mean, who has won the wars we've fought in? Straight white men and a few straight blacks and Navajos. That's who!