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http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/vi ... tholic.cnn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting.

Hmmmm. A blogger does something that gets them more internet coverage.

Can't wait until Capn' and D become Pentecostals.

The article is misleading. The Friendly Atheist is a million times more popular than the aforementioned blogger and it's portrayed like he's minor in comparison. Many atheists that I ran this by never heard of either....

youngterrier wrote:Many atheists that I ran this by never heard of either....

How long have you been in jail?

JoltinJoe wrote:

youngterrier wrote:Many atheists that I ran this by never heard of either....

How long have you been in jail?

Least he ain't in jail for fucking toddler boys. The way things are going, if you need to see a catholic priest go to a prison or a catholic-owned pedophile retreat.

Pretty soon, the guy that cuts your lawn will be saying your masses.

Catholic priests

JoltinJoe wrote:

youngterrier wrote:Many atheists that I ran this by never heard of either....

How long have you been in jail?

I've never heard of her, but I don't speak for an entire community of people, so consensus is nice

edit: and if that was a knock on atheists, less than 1% of the imprisoned are atheists. try again

youngterrier wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:
How long have you been in jail?

I've never heard of her, but I don't speak for an entire community of people, so consensus is nice

edit: and if that was a knock on atheists, less than 1% of the imprisoned are atheists. try again

A very dubious claim.

http://christianrethinker.wordpress.com ... in-prison/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah. . . Never heard of her.

JoltinJoe wrote:

youngterrier wrote: I've never heard of her, but I don't speak for an entire community of people, so consensus is nice

edit: and if that was a knock on atheists, less than 1% of the imprisoned are atheists. try again

A very dubious claim.

http://christianrethinker.wordpress.com ... in-prison/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice source.

The Federal Bureau of Prisons does have statistics on religious
affiliations of inmates. The following are total number of
inmates per religion category:

Response Number %
---------------------------- --------
Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
---------------------------- --------
Total Known Responses 74731 100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)

JoltinJoe wrote:

youngterrier wrote: I've never heard of her, but I don't speak for an entire community of people, so consensus is nice

edit: and if that was a knock on atheists, less than 1% of the imprisoned are atheists. try again

A very dubious claim.

http://christianrethinker.wordpress.com ... in-prison/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

so the article basically assumes that the remaining 19% are atheists?

Yeah, that's a stretch.

No, it suggests that a significant portion of the 19% might be atheists.

D1B wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:
A very dubious claim.

http://christianrethinker.wordpress.com ... in-prison/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nice source.

The Federal Bureau of Prisons does have statistics on religious
affiliations of inmates. The following are total number of
inmates per religion category:

Response Number %
---------------------------- --------
Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
---------------------------- --------
Total Known Responses 74731 100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)

As a known liar, you need to cite your sources. Link?

So, liar, it is actually the same report I cited, which based its overall percentage figures based solely on the people who responded, and excluded the nearly 20 percent who did not.

So if you add in the people who indicated no religious preference, the Catholic percentage would drop to about 25% -- representing the percentage of the population which is Catholic.

And, of course, it is true that probably the great majority of the 20% who did not respond lack a religious affiliation, and that's why they did not respond.

No wonder you didn't provide your link, D1Liar.

http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

JoltinJoe wrote:So, liar, it is actually the same report I cited, which based its overall percentage figures based solely on the people who responded, and excluded the nearly 20 percent who did not.

So if you add in the people who indicated no religious preference, the Catholic percentage would drop to about 25% -- representing the percentage of the population which is Catholic.

And, of course, it is true that probably the great majority of the 20% who did not respond lack a religious affiliation, and that's why they did not respond.

No wonder you didn't provide your link, D1Liar.

http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hey, Frankincenseforbrains, try reading. Here, I'll help:

FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

JoltinJoe wrote:Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

Short, angry and brainwashed is no way to go through life, Amendola.

JoltinJoe wrote:So, liar, it is actually the same report I cited, which based its overall percentage figures based solely on the people who responded, and excluded the nearly 20 percent who did not.

So if you add in the people who indicated no religious preference, the Catholic percentage would drop to about 25% -- representing the percentage of the population which is Catholic.

And, of course, it is true that probably the great majority of the 20% who did not respond lack a religious affiliation, and that's why they did not respond.

No wonder you didn't provide your link, D1Liar.

http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

1) So what you are saying is that without the 20% who didn't respond, the Catholic percentage matches the percentage of population of the Catholics. That assumes a best case scenario, in which very few Catholics didn't respond. On the other hand, if even a small percentage of Catholics did not answer, then Catholics are over represented in prisons.

2) Why in the world would you suppose that, "it is true that probably the great majority of the 20% who did not respond lack a religious affiliation"? That's an absurd assumption.

Many people don't respond to surveys for various reasons and Catholicism does not automatically exclude apathy. Some folks don't believe their religious preference is anyone's business. Perhaps, as a Catholic, they are feeling guilty of committing a crime and don't want to own up to that internal conflict. whatever the specific reasons, there are plenty of reasons why people of all backgrounds would not respond to a question about their religious affiliation.

To assume that the "great majority" of non-respondents are not religious is to ignore basic human behavior in order to generate a result that you desire.

The most logical reason that someone did not respond was because of a lack of a religious affiliation.

Period. To deny that fact is silly.

/s thread

Cluck U wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:So, liar, it is actually the same report I cited, which based its overall percentage figures based solely on the people who responded, and excluded the nearly 20 percent who did not.

So if you add in the people who indicated no religious preference, the Catholic percentage would drop to about 25% -- representing the percentage of the population which is Catholic.

And, of course, it is true that probably the great majority of the 20% who did not respond lack a religious affiliation, and that's why they did not respond.

No wonder you didn't provide your link, D1Liar.

http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

1) So what you are saying is that without the 20% who didn't respond, the Catholic percentage matches the percentage of population of the Catholics. That assumes a best case scenario, in which very few Catholics didn't respond. On the other hand, if even a small percentage of Catholics did not answer, then Catholics are over represented in prisons.

2) Why in the world would you suppose that, "it is true that probably the great majority of the 20% who did not respond lack a religious affiliation"? That's an absurd assumption.

Many people don't respond to surveys for various reasons and Catholicism does not automatically exclude apathy. Some folks don't believe their religious preference is anyone's business. Perhaps, as a Catholic, they are feeling guilty of committing a crime and don't want to own up to that internal conflict. whatever the specific reasons, there are plenty of reasons why people of all backgrounds would not respond to a question about their religious affiliation.

To assume that the "great majority" of non-respondents are not religious is to ignore basic human behavior in order to generate a result that you desire.

Joltin Joe =

*That Fordumb Theology degree is really working for you.

JoltinJoe wrote:

The most logical reason that someone did not respond was because of a lack of a religious affiliation.

Period. To deny that fact is silly.

/s thread

This thread wreaks of confirmation bias

I'm looking at you William Lane Craig.

youngterrier wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:

The most logical reason that someone did not respond was because of a lack of a religious affiliation.

Period. To deny that fact is silly.

/s thread

This thread wreaks of confirmation bias

I'm looking at you William Lane Craig.

Coming from the guy who claimed that less than 1% of the incarcerated are atheists, citing to a report that also indicates that almost 20% indicated no religious affiliation.



I guess the key question is how come the religiously unaffiliated are so remarkably over-represented in the prison population.

JoltinJoe wrote:

youngterrier wrote: This thread wreaks of confirmation bias

I'm looking at you William Lane Craig.

Coming from the guy who claimed that less than 1% of the incarcerated are atheists, citing to a report that also indicates that almost 20% indicated no religious affiliation.



I guess the key question is how come the religiously unaffiliated are so remarkably over-represented in the prison population.

No, the just didn't respond to the survey

Reaaaaacccccchhhhhhh for the straws

youngterrier wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:
Coming from the guy who claimed that less than 1% of the incarcerated are atheists, citing to a report that also indicates that almost 20% indicated no religious affiliation.



I guess the key question is how come the religiously unaffiliated are so remarkably over-represented in the prison population.

No, the just didn't respond to the survey

Yup, because they have no religious affiliation.

JoltinJoe wrote:

youngterrier wrote: No, the just didn't respond to the survey

Yup, because they have no religious affiliation.

I had an Obama supporter call me today. I didn't respond.

I guess that means I'm leaning towards voting for Romney.