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Great article from RCP. It's short, so read it.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... 14547.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The problem for the Democratic Party is that its core philosophy and mechanisms are increasingly ill-suited to our times.

Ibanez wrote:Great article from RCP. It's short, so read it.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... 14547.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The problem for the Democratic Party is that its core philosophy and mechanisms are increasingly ill-suited to our times.

They may be increasingly ill-suited to our times, but they're perfectly suited for the lazy, entitlement mentality of an increasing number of Americans.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote:Great article from RCP. It's short, so read it.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... 14547.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They may be increasingly ill-suited to our times, but they're perfectly suited for the lazy, entitlement mentality of an increasing number of Americans.

Quit bullshitting and get to work. The entitled are depending on you dammit.

I might have begun to think so, but the other party nominated Mitt Romney, and has a sniveling bawl-baby as speaker of the house, I would say the GOP is having a much bigger identity crisis than the Dems.

Both parties are way too shameless and without conscience to ever be doomed.

The Donkeys might be "doomed" to lose THIS general election. But "doomed" as a party, as in going away? I think not. There may well be some imbeciles in that party (Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Reid, Biden, and Frank among them), but there are also probably some good ones out there, too. It's WAY too early to say the party is about to be replaced as a major party.

Ibanez wrote:Great article from RCP. It's short, so read it.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... 14547.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The problem for the Democratic Party is that its core philosophy and mechanisms are increasingly ill-suited to our times.

1) Jonah Goldberg.

2) What two parties?

3) Make me.

There will always be a liberal party and a conservative party in the US. The prospects for a centrist third party are slim.

By the way, kalm, the Donks don't have a political writer as witty and incisive as Jonah Goldberg, and they haven't since Molly Ivins died. Deal with it.

Ivytalk wrote:There will always be a liberal party and a conservative party in the US. The prospects for a centrist third party are slim.

By the way, kalm, the Donks don't have a political writer as witty and incisive as Jonah Goldberg, and they haven't since Molly Ivins died. Deal with it.

Witty!

kalm wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:There will always be a liberal party and a conservative party in the US. The prospects for a centrist third party are slim.

By the way, kalm, the Donks don't have a political writer as witty and incisive as Jonah Goldberg, and they haven't since Molly Ivins died. Deal with it.

Witty!

Yup. But, then, as a Donk, you have no sense of humor.

I dont think the Dems are doomed. The philosophy of identity politics is doomed. The Dems currently have the poster boy for identity politics in the WH, and that was the best way to ensure its demise. Shines a little light in those dark corners for those of us who didn't already know that those political leanings are engineered to divide people.

I wonder if Jonah Goldberg has checked out the recent polling on continuing the Bush tax cuts? 26% support!

Pols from both parties are out of touch with how progressive America really is.

kalm wrote:I wonder if Jonah Goldberg has checked out the recent polling on continuing the Bush tax cuts? 26% support!

Pols from both parties are out of touch with how progressive America really is.

Makers vs. Takers in 2012. If the Takers win , we're all fucked.

If either party had one half of one ounce of a clue then the opposite party would imminently be doomed.

I'll give kudos to PA for taking a small step to what may help this in our commonwealth. Don't know if this is the case in other states but in PA people run to local school boards with party affiliation - either Dem or Rep. PA is one step away from eliminating any party affiliation on the ballot - and it looks almost certain to be law & in effect starting with the next election.

bluehenbillk wrote:If either party had one half of one ounce of a clue then the opposite party would imminently be doomed.

I'll give kudos to PA for taking a small step to what may help this in our commonwealth. Don't know if this is the case in other states but in PA people run to local school boards with party affiliation - either Dem or Rep. PA is one step away from eliminating any party affiliation on the ballot - and it looks almost certain to be law & in effect starting with the next election.

DE school board elections are nonpartisan, but very few people bother to vote in them. But I take your point.

Ivytalk wrote:

kalm wrote:I wonder if Jonah Goldberg has checked out the recent polling on continuing the Bush tax cuts? 26% support!

Pols from both parties are out of touch with how progressive America really is.

Makers vs. Takers in 2012. If the Takers win , we're all ****.

I get a little perturbed when people talk about ending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Bush didn't cut taxes for just the wealthy he cut them for everyone who pays taxes. If you're going to let them expire, let them all expire not just a subset. I'm not opposed to seeing them expire. I just have one caveat, government programs and services cannot be increased as a result. All of the revenue should be allocated to reducing the deficit.

Ivytalk wrote:

kalm wrote:I wonder if Jonah Goldberg has checked out the recent polling on continuing the Bush tax cuts? 26% support!

Pols from both parties are out of touch with how progressive America really is.

Makers vs. Takers in 2012. If the Takers win , we're all fucked.

Spoken like a true economic royalist!

kalm wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: Makers vs. Takers in 2012. If the Takers win , we're all ****.

Spoken like a true economic royalist!

No, just spoken like someone who -- like you -- has a stake in building a prosperous society and a vibrant economy that undergirds that society. Why work your butt off when the wealth you create is redistributed disproportionately to those who lay vocal claim to that largesse without taking the time and making the effort to earn it? And I'm not talking about charitable contributions to help those in genuine need. It's only going to get worse, my friend, as the voter rolls are increasingly populated by those of an entitlement mindset, whom you may call "progressive" but I call envious, ignorant and lazy. And if you scoff at that concept, being an entrepreneur yourself, you're not as bright as I thought you were. The Ant and the Grasshopper is no fable.

bluehenbillk wrote:If either party had one half of one ounce of a clue then the opposite party would imminently be doomed.

I'll give kudos to PA for taking a small step to what may help this in our commonwealth. Don't know if this is the case in other states but in PA people run to local school boards with party affiliation - either Dem or Rep. PA is one step away from eliminating any party affiliation on the ballot - and it looks almost certain to be law & in effect starting with the next election.

Iowa school board elections are non partisan. City councils too.

No the long term future is very bright for them because of demographic trends.