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Flashback from candidate Obama: ‘I’ll walk the picket line with you’

During a 2007 campaign speech in Spartanburg, South Carolina, then-Senator Obama told supporters he would fight for collective bargaining rights if he was elected president.

“And understand this: If American workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain when I’m in the White House, I’ll put on a put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself. I’ll walk on that picket line with you as president of the United States.”

This video was uploaded to YouTube Nov. 3, 2007

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Bronco wrote:-
I think it means the lefty cried because Obama lied to them when he said he was on their side .

He was in Minnesota last week and then flew over Wisconsin on the way to Chicago but didn't stop in to help them

That's why they were crying after realizing they were used

Flashback from candidate Obama: ‘I’ll walk the picket line with you’

During a 2007 campaign speech in Spartanburg, South Carolina, then-Senator Obama told supporters he would fight for collective bargaining rights if he was elected president.

“And understand this: If American workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain when I’m in the White House, I’ll put on a put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself. I’ll walk on that picket line with you as president of the United States.”

This video was uploaded to YouTube Nov. 3, 2007

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D1B wrote:

Bronco wrote:-
I think it means the lefty cried because Obama lied to them when he said he was on their side .

He was in Minnesota last week and then flew over Wisconsin on the way to Chicago but didn't stop in to help them

That's why they were crying after realizing they were used

Recall elections are not picket lines. Try again, racist.

Ibanez wrote:

D1B wrote:
Recall elections are not picket lines. Try again, racist.

He isn't racist. Just ignorant.

D1B wrote:

Ibanez wrote: He isn't racist. Just ignorant.

No, he's racist. If BOH was white, Bronco and the rest of racist/conk contingent would have complimented him on his enlightened restraint and not getting involved in a fucking loser like a recall election.

Ibanez wrote:

D1B wrote:
No, he's racist. If BOH was white, Bronco and the rest of racist/conk contingent would have complimented him on his enlightened restraint and not getting involved in a fucking loser like a recall election.

I disagree. Obama is a Democrat, white or black, and therefore conks will still be ignorant and hateful. Just like democrats will be when a Republican is in the White House.

kalm wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I disagree. Obama is a Democrat, white or black, and therefore conks will still be ignorant and hateful. Just like democrats will be when a Republican is in the White House.

2008 Obama made many promises.

Not getting involved with a losing campaign is a smart move. Avoiding strong ties to the labor movement in this instance also doesn't hurt his chances with independents.

GannonFan wrote:

kalm wrote:
2008 Obama made many promises.

Not getting involved with a losing campaign is a smart move. Avoiding strong ties to the labor movement in this instance also doesn't hurt his chances with independents.

It was smart not to get involved in a losing campaign - no sense going down with that ship when you can stay away and stay dry. But as for the ties to the labor movement, it's hard to see this having any impact with independents that would be interested in that - I mean, considering his push for card check elections and having Holder contest Boeing's decision to manufacture in SC, he has a pretty defined track record of supporting the labor movement. Not getting involved in a race that was already lost won't change that.

GannonFan wrote:

kalm wrote:
2008 Obama made many promises.

Not getting involved with a losing campaign is a smart move. Avoiding strong ties to the labor movement in this instance also doesn't hurt his chances with independents.

It was smart not to get involved in a losing campaign - no sense going down with that ship when you can stay away and stay dry. But as for the ties to the labor movement, it's hard to see this having any impact with independents that would be interested in that - I mean, considering his push for card check elections and having Holder contest Boeing's decision to manufacture in SC, he has a pretty defined track record of supporting the labor movement. Not getting involved in a race that was already lost won't change that.

Bronco wrote:-
Ignorant? You are the guys that voted for this political coward

Same guy that demanded a memo to shift the blame on the Osama raid if it went wrong decided to not go to Wisconsin to give a hand to the folks that gave him money in 2008 and worked hard for his election...very hard

On the day before the recall the media was saying it was a toss up.

Clinton went in to help but the Coward flew over the state and gave the unions the finger. His fund raising was more important

It's Ignorant to support a political coward...I still wouldn't like him but I bet some folks in Wisconsin would have been impressed


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Rift Builds Between Obama and Unions
breitbart.com ^ | 6/6/12 | John Nolte

As Charles Krauthammer said last night on Fox News, "In Wisconsin, Obama literally mailed it in." Actually, Obama tweeted it in. Though public sector unions throughout the country broke their backs and piggy banks to win him the presidency in 2008, ever the calculating politician willing to throw his supporters under that over-crowded bus, Obama refused to show up and rally for the Wisconsin rank-and-file for fear a loss might give him a bad news cycle or two.

Judging by Michael Moore's re-Tweet below (and common sense), we're likely seeing the beginning of bad blood. Unions aren't happy about this, nor should they be:

Bronco wrote:

Rift Builds Between Obama and Unions
breitbart.com ^ | 6/6/12 | John Nolte

As Charles Krauthammer said last night on Fox News, "In Wisconsin, Obama literally mailed it in." Actually, Obama tweeted it in. Though public sector unions throughout the country broke their backs and piggy banks to win him the presidency in 2008, ever the calculating politician willing to throw his supporters under that over-crowded bus, Obama refused to show up and rally for the Wisconsin rank-and-file for fear a loss might give him a bad news cycle or two.

Judging by Michael Moore's re-Tweet below (and common sense), we're likely seeing the beginning of bad blood. Unions aren't happy about this, nor should they be:

Ibanez wrote:

D1B wrote:
No, he's racist. If BOH was white, Bronco and the rest of racist/conk contingent would have complimented him on his enlightened restraint and not getting involved in a fucking loser like a recall election.

I disagree. Obama is a Democrat, white or black, and therefore conks will still be ignorant and hateful. Just like democrats will be when a Republican is in the White House.

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Obama avoids Wisconsin
Weekly Standard ^ | June 2, 2012 | Stephen F. Hayes

Barack Obama seems determined to avoid Wisconsin.

On Friday, he visited Minneapolis, Minnesota, for a midday speech and three fundraisers. He departed late afternoon for Chicago and three more fundraisers that evening. The president stayed overnight in his hometown and spent Saturday morning at his old home before flying back to Washington, D.C., for a brief stop before heading to Camp David for some downtime.

But I wonder if the downsides to skipping the state – and skipping it in the way that he did – are not worse. And there’s always the outside chance that Barrett pulls off a surprise victory – in which case Obama would have been celebrated as a difference-maker.

It’s clear that Wisconsin Democrats wanted him to come. In an interview with the Huffington Post on Thursday Barrett responded to Obama’s visit across the state’s border and invited the president to Wisconsin. “We’d love to have him zip over to western Wisconsin,” Barrett said. “I’m happy to meet him for a fish fry.”

No luck. Rather than travel the thirty miles from the Twin Cities for the perch special at the Mallalieu Inn over in Hudson, Wisconsin (or, even better, a burger at Dick’s), Obama went straight to Illinois, where he held a fundraiser at the Chicago Cultural Center “in an ornate, high-ceilinged room where guests in business attire mingled and sipped wine,” according to the pool report. Tickets started at $2,500.

Wisconsin Democrats cannot be happy with the snub. They were “furious” at what they perceived as inadequate support from national Democrats, leaking their frustrations in what looked like an attempt to shame the Democratic National Committee into providing the backing they were seeking.

An Obama visit to Wisconsin, even if it preceded a loss, would have energized the activists who have been working in the state for more than a year – many of whom Obama will need to work for him over the next five months. And it would have given rank-and-file Democratic voters the sense that their president stood with them on a campaign of such obvious importance to them.

SuperHornet wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I disagree. Obama is a Democrat, white or black, and therefore conks will still be ignorant and hateful. Just like democrats will be when a Republican is in the White House.

If one goes back, one would see that the Obama supporters started this mess while Bush was still in office. Spewing hateful stuff, and then having the temerity to be surprised when Republicans flung it back after Obama won. Essentially, their attitude was (generally speaking, of course, since there are always exceptions to the rule) we can say whatever we want about YOUR "dummy" while he's in office, but YOU shut up 'cause WE won."

Double standard....

Bronco wrote:-
I disagree that it would have been a mistake showing up...He's fighting a reputation as being a pussy and showing up would have helped turn that around. Better than what he's been doing leaking classified info to the NY Times to try to make him seem strong and tough to the voters. Show up and fight for what you said you believe .

So...Still a political coward

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Obama avoids Wisconsin
Weekly Standard ^ | June 2, 2012 | Stephen F. Hayes

Barack Obama seems determined to avoid Wisconsin.

On Friday, he visited Minneapolis, Minnesota, for a midday speech and three fundraisers. He departed late afternoon for Chicago and three more fundraisers that evening. The president stayed overnight in his hometown and spent Saturday morning at his old home before flying back to Washington, D.C., for a brief stop before heading to Camp David for some downtime.

But I wonder if the downsides to skipping the state – and skipping it in the way that he did – are not worse. And there’s always the outside chance that Barrett pulls off a surprise victory – in which case Obama would have been celebrated as a difference-maker.

It’s clear that Wisconsin Democrats wanted him to come. In an interview with the Huffington Post on Thursday Barrett responded to Obama’s visit across the state’s border and invited the president to Wisconsin. “We’d love to have him zip over to western Wisconsin,” Barrett said. “I’m happy to meet him for a fish fry.”

No luck. Rather than travel the thirty miles from the Twin Cities for the perch special at the Mallalieu Inn over in Hudson, Wisconsin (or, even better, a burger at Dick’s), Obama went straight to Illinois, where he held a fundraiser at the Chicago Cultural Center “in an ornate, high-ceilinged room where guests in business attire mingled and sipped wine,” according to the pool report. Tickets started at $2,500.

Wisconsin Democrats cannot be happy with the snub. They were “furious” at what they perceived as inadequate support from national Democrats, leaking their frustrations in what looked like an attempt to shame the Democratic National Committee into providing the backing they were seeking.

An Obama visit to Wisconsin, even if it preceded a loss, would have energized the activists who have been working in the state for more than a year – many of whom Obama will need to work for him over the next five months. And it would have given rank-and-file Democratic voters the sense that their president stood with them on a campaign of such obvious importance to them.

Bronco wrote:-
Ignorant? You are the guys that voted for this political coward

Same guy that demanded a memo to shift the blame on the Osama raid if it went wrong decided to not go to Wisconsin to give a hand to the folks that gave him money in 2008 and worked hard for his election...very hard

On the day before the recall the media was saying it was a toss up.

Clinton went in to help but the Coward flew over the state and gave the unions the finger. His fund raising was more important

It's Ignorant to support a political coward...I still wouldn't like him but I bet some folks in Wisconsin would have been impressed


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