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To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:44 am
by dbackjon
Take a stand for Equality!


Thanks :)

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:46 am
by grizzaholic
dbackjon wrote:Take a stand for Equality!


Thanks :)
I like the First Amendment, what about free speech don't you like?

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:48 am
by ASUG8
Jon should probably go ahead and queue up the "Fvck you North Carolina" thread. :lol:

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:48 am
by dbackjon
grizzaholic wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Take a stand for Equality!


Thanks :)
I like the First Amendment, what about free speech don't you like?
Amendment One to the North Carolina Constitution - to ban same-sex marriage, civil union, or any granting of rights that married heterosexual couples have now.

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:49 am
by dbackjon
ASUG8 wrote:Jon should probably go ahead and queue up the "Fvck you North Carolina" thread. :lol:
Prolly - but I have hope :)

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:51 am
by grizzaholic
dbackjon wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
I like the First Amendment, what about free speech don't you like?
Amendment One to the North Carolina Constitution - to ban same-sex marriage, civil union, or any granting of rights that married heterosexual couples have now.
aaahhhhh. I see.

sorry for my ignorance. I will see if I can call in a favor with a mod to get the title changed to "FUCK YOU NC!!"



POST EDIT: Damn ASUG8 beat me to it.

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:16 am
by AZGrizFan
grizzaholic wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Amendment One to the North Carolina Constitution - to ban same-sex marriage, civil union, or any granting of rights that married heterosexual couples have now.
aaahhhhh. I see.

sorry for my ignorance. I will see if I can call in a favor with a mod to get the title changed to "FUCK YOU NC!!"



POST EDIT: Damn ASUG8 beat me to it.
You're gettin' old, compadre. :coffee:

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:40 am
by bluehenbillk
Call me naive, or just call me lazy, which I am. How accepted/not accepted are civil unions in other non-3rd world countries? Just curious.

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:41 am
by CitadelGrad
I'm torn about this. I believe in equal rights for all (except negroes), but I don't like fags. This is a very tough call.

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:43 am
by dbackjon
bluehenbillk wrote:Call me naive, or just call me lazy, which I am. How accepted/not accepted are civil unions in other non-3rd world countries? Just curious.

Same-sex marriage is legally recognized nationwide in Argentina, Belgium, Canada, Iceland, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, and Sweden. In the United States, same-sex marriages are not recognized federally, though same-sex couples can marry in six of the fifty states and one district. In Mexico, same-sex marriages are only performed in Mexico City, but these marriages are recognized by all Mexican states and by the Mexican federal government.[67] Israel does not recognize same-sex marriages performed on its territory, but recognizes same-sex marriages performed in foreign jurisdictions. In Brazil, the state of Alagoas performs same-sex marriages. Also, in other states, a same-sex couple may convert their civil union into marriage with the approval of a state judge. If approved, that marriage is recognized in all the national territory.[68]

Same-sex marriage is likely to be passed in a number of European countries in the next two years.

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:45 am
by 89Hen
bluehenbillk wrote:Call me naive, or just call me lazy, which I am. How accepted/not accepted are civil unions in other non-3rd world countries? Just curious.
http://www.infoplease.com/world/countri ... z1uIUx2gvw

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:34 am
by T-Dog
I went to the polls last Friday.

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Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:04 pm
by Rob Iola
Good to know that Obama unequivocally supports gay marriage...

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:15 pm
by bluehenbillk
Another thing I don't get is the big deal news outlets make about this as a political issue.

Really?

What Obama/Biden/Romney thing about the institution of marriage? Seriously, that shouldn't even be in the top 20 Presidential campaign issues!

Next.

To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:21 pm
by CID1990
Rob Iola wrote:Good to know that Obama unequivocally supports gay marriage...
I am more liberal than our Prez on this issue, apparently. I would be voting no if I was still a NC voter.


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Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:28 pm
by danefan
bluehenbillk wrote:Another thing I don't get is the big deal news outlets make about this as a political issue.

Really?

What Obama/Biden/Romney thing about the institution of marriage? Seriously, that shouldn't even be in the top 20 Presidential campaign issues!

Next.
+1

Its just one example of the misplaced priorities of our political system.

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:29 pm
by dbackjon
Rob Iola wrote:Good to know that Obama unequivocally supports gay marriage...

And I give him shit for that - I call him a bigot on Democratic sites (and get posts deleted, etc)

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:33 pm
by 89Hen
dbackjon wrote:
Rob Iola wrote:Good to know that Obama unequivocally supports gay marriage...

And I give him shit for that - I call him a bigot on Democratic sites (and get posts deleted, etc)
So with every other politician, you are a one issue voter, but Obama... :?

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:38 pm
by dbackjon
89Hen wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

And I give him shit for that - I call him a bigot on Democratic sites (and get posts deleted, etc)
So with every other politician, you are a one issue voter, but Obama... :?

No, you are mistaken. It is a very important issue to me, and yes, if thare is a choice between a pro-marriage and anti-marriage, I will take the pro-marriage every time.

But Obama's indifference is better than Romney's outright hostitlity.

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:41 pm
by clenz
I'm willing to bet that if there was a candidate that was 100% in agreement with every one of Jon's views except gay marriage, Jon wouldn't vote for him/her.

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:41 pm
by 89Hen
dbackjon wrote:No, you are mistaken. It is a very important issue to me, and yes, if thare is a choice between a pro-marriage and anti-marriage, I will take the pro-marriage every time.
No, I'm not mistaken.

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:44 pm
by grizzaholic
dbackjon wrote:
89Hen wrote: So with every other politician, you are a one issue voter, but Obama... :?

No, you are mistaken. It is a very important issue to me, and yes, if thare is a choice between a pro-marriage and anti-marriage, I will take the pro-marriage every time.

But Obama's indifference is better than Romney's outright hostitlity.
Candidate A is for gay marriage and against all of your other views.
Candidate B is against gay marriage and for all of your other views.

Who do you choose?

To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:53 pm
by CID1990
dbackjon wrote:
89Hen wrote: So with every other politician, you are a one issue voter, but Obama... :?

No, you are mistaken. It is a very important issue to me, and yes, if thare is a choice between a pro-marriage and anti-marriage, I will take the pro-marriage every time.

But Obama's indifference is better than Romney's outright hostitlity.
I would call it honesty rather than hostility. At least he is unequivocal about it.


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Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:18 pm
by Rob Iola
bluehenbillk wrote:Another thing I don't get is the big deal news outlets make about this as a political issue.

Really?

What Obama/Biden/Romney thing about the institution of marriage? Seriously, that shouldn't even be in the top 20 Presidential campaign issues!

Next.
It's only an issue for Obama because he's got his spokesman having to walk this "his view is evolving" BS tightrope. Frankly it's Obama's single biggest problem - not his views on gay marriage, but his inability to take clear stands on even seemingly minor issues (e.g., not in the top 20). Obamacare, for a much bigger example, is a shell of what it could be because he refused to tax the Cadillac plans that inconveniently are part of the auto unions' benefit packages. At least until SCOTUS strikes it down...

Re: To my Friends in NC - vote no on Amendment One

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:11 pm
by dbackjon
grizzaholic wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

No, you are mistaken. It is a very important issue to me, and yes, if thare is a choice between a pro-marriage and anti-marriage, I will take the pro-marriage every time.

But Obama's indifference is better than Romney's outright hostitlity.
Candidate A is for gay marriage and against all of your other views.
Candidate B is against gay marriage and for all of your other views.

Who do you choose?

Candidate B