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Lost in Translation

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:38 am
by kalm
We've been slacking on religion threads of late, so here ya go Z! :thumb:
US Bible translator agrees to review after criticism over substitutions for 'Son' and 'Father'
By Tom Breen, The Associated Press | Associated Press – 58 mins ago

One of the largest Bible translators in the world is undergoing an independent review after critics claimed language in some of their translations intended for Muslim countries misses the essential Christian idea of Trinity: the father, son and the holy spirit or ghost.

Wycliffe, which is involved in more than 1,500 Bible translation programs in roughly 90 countries, generally prefers a method known as "dynamic equivalent translation," Creson said, in which a literal, word-for-word approach is less important than conveying the essential meaning of a text.

"If you've got a culture that doesn't have sheep, and you want to translate the word 'sheep,' you either explain sheep or you find an equivalent term," Creson said.

The other major approach is generally known as "formal equivalent translation," said Timothy Beal, a professor of religion at Case Western Reserve University. That approach that strives for as close to a literal match as possible.

The importance of translation springs from the early centuries of Christianity, when the books of the New Testament, originally written in Greek, were translated by believers in places where that language wasn't spoken, said Ray Van Neste, director of the R.C. Ryan Center for Biblical Studies at Union University.

"In some of those languages, it's the first written literature," he said. "It's part of the missionary impulse of Christianity that this is the very word of God, and that all people need the opportunity to hear it and read it."

The rendering of the Bible into languages other than Latin was one of the major disputes of the Protestant Reformation; John Wycliffe, the 14th century scholar the Orlando organization is named for, was condemned by the Roman Catholic Church for producing an English version of Scripture. At times, even particular translations can become so entrenched that believers reject the possibility of improvement, Beal said, noting that some American churches advertise themselves as "King James Only," referring to the Shakespeare-era English translation.

"Translation is probably the most contentious topic in the history of the Bible," he said.
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Re: Lost in Translation

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:49 am
by Ivytalk
I was expecting a Scarlett Johansson thread! :tothehand: :pics:

Re: Lost in Translation

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:27 am
by Bronco
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Another example of a translation problem was when 50 some years ago Kruschev pounded his show on the podium and said we will "BURY" you

We now know he meant "BARRY"



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Re: Lost in Translation

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:59 pm
by polsongrizz
Bronco wrote:-
Another example of a translation problem was when 50 some years ago Kruschev pounded his show on the podium and said we will "BURY" you
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Was it this kind of show or what???
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Re: Lost in Translation

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:14 pm
by SDHornet
Ivytalk wrote:I was expecting a Scarlett Johansson thread! :tothehand: :pics:
:+1:

Re: Lost in Translation

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:30 am
by kalm
SDHornet wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:I was expecting a Scarlett Johansson thread! :tothehand: :pics:
:+1:
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Re: Lost in Translation

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:00 am
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:
SDHornet wrote: :+1:
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:thumb: :hitit: Ohh, yeeaaahhh!! :lol:

Now what was this thread supposed to be about? 8-)

Re: Lost in Translation

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:48 am
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
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:thumb: :hitit: Ohh, yeeaaahhh!! :lol:

Now what was this thread supposed to be about? 8-)
JJ and D singing Kumbayah. 8-)

Re: Lost in Translation

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:54 pm
by Grizo406
Great cinematography, but other than SJ, one of the worst films I've ever seen!

Re: Lost in Translation

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:50 pm
by Ivytalk
Grizo406 wrote:Great cinematography, but other than SJ, one of the worst films I've ever seen!
Bill Murray on quaaludes. :|