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Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal has signed legislation that would require thousands of people applying for welfare to pass a drug test before they could receive benefits.

The Republican-controlled Legislature passed the law over the opposition of Democrats.

Backers say it will ensure that welfare benefits are used for their intended purpose and not to subsidize drug use and criminal activity. Democrats said the measure places an unfair burden on the poor.

SuperHornet wrote:If anything, the burden is on the state because that's who's paying for the urinalysis materials, the salaries of the staff administering it, shipping costs, and the obvious lab fees. That's assuming they outsource it, of course. The other option would be to do it in-house, which begs some place to house the operation and the salaries of the lab techs. In either case, the only "burden" on the "poor" is the time involved in providing the sample, the lead time between the act of urinalysis and the return of the lab results, and MAYBE the embarrassment of having to drop trou in front of a stranger of the SAME gender.

Having "endured" many whiz quizzes while in the military, I have no problem with this IF the state can handle the incidental costs.

AZGrizFan wrote:Still waiting for an explanation as to how this puts "an unfair burden on the poor".

Why? Because they won't pass the test and not get their money and get pissed off and not continue voting for the donks who are giving them their heroin in the form of welfare checks?

Democrats were split on drug-testing of welfare recipients, with 49 percent disapproving and 50 percent approving. But 90 percent of Republicans endorsed the law, with independent voters supporting it by a 75-24 percent margin.
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Florida's neophyte Republican governor, tea-party-friendly Rick Scott, signed a bill back in June requiring the state's welfare recipients to undergo drug-testing urinalysis before collecting their monthly assistance check of around $241-to-$303. The measure, he said, would save taxpayer money by barring drug addicts from getting the dole. "Studies show that people that are on welfare are higher users of drugs than people not on welfare," he said.

Florida's welfare recipients are proving that Scott's assumption wasn't worth a warm bucket of pee. Now, the state is effectively being forced to pay for 11.5 gallons of welfare applicants' drug-free urine every month, to the tune of around $34,000.

Of the 1,000 or so recipients who have taken the required drug tests (at their own expense) since early July, only 2 percent have tested positive for drugs, according to the Tampa Tribune. That's well below the national population's average, and it's so low that the testing plan—which was expected to cost $187 million by some analysts' estimates—could end up costing taxpayers even more in the long run.

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In Florida, the average TANF household payment is $253-a-month and the average time receiving benefits is just under five months. The new law required that applicants pay for their own drug tests -- with fees of $30-$35 -- and said they would be reimbursed by the state when the applicants pass.

Gil Dobie wrote:White collar is already drug-tests in most corporations. Who do you think keeps Hazeldon and other booze and dope treatment facilities open.

blueballs wrote:What has been overlooked here is the fact that if you can pass a piss test to get welfare you should be able to pass a piss test to get a job.

I would imagine the welfare recipients who are able to pass a piss test become employed and cycle off welfare faster than what we saw before. If that is the case, and common sense indicates it should be, then the program is effective for reasons other than strict principle.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

blueballs wrote:What has been overlooked here is the fact that if you can pass a piss test to get welfare you should be able to pass a piss test to get a job.

I would imagine the welfare recipients who are able to pass a piss test become employed and cycle off welfare faster than what we saw before. If that is the case, and common sense indicates it should be, then the program is effective for reasons other than strict principle.

So true.


Also "helping the poor" is not giving them welfare............the sooner guys like D1B/CapN learn that the better off they will be in the future.

You guys are keeping them where they are at and you know it. That isnt compassion its slavery. You guys really need to adopt the mindset that helping them become the best productive people they can be is the answer not keeping them in a self made hole so you can get your politicians elected.

Conservatives believe that EVERYONE can be productive and they all have something to add to society, that cant be accomplished by putting them in a welfare box like you donks have done for decades.

AZGrizFan wrote:And $7 Trillion dollars later, Obama's "trying something new" isn't working either.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:And $7 Trillion dollars later, Obama's "trying something new" isn't working either.

Again, takes time to clean up massive ConkMess from SilentBoy over there in Crawford, TX!!!!

I can't wait for the day when there is a complete government takeover and you are "assigned" to clean up dog **** at the Phoenix pounds as your job.

houndawg wrote:I think it's a great idea and that the State legislators should lead by example.

We deserve better than a bunch of junkies making laws after washing down a couple of Xanax with some martinis at lunch. No legislator should be allowed to vote on the people's business unless he/she can pass a piss test immediately before the vote.

Effing well know that crowd will be >2% positive....

Cap'n Cat wrote:

houndawg wrote:I think it's a great idea and that the State legislators should lead by example.

We deserve better than a bunch of junkies making laws after washing down a couple of Xanax with some martinis at lunch. No legislator should be allowed to vote on the people's business unless he/she can pass a piss test immediately before the vote.

Effing well know that crowd will be >2% positive....

Agreed.

blueballs wrote:What has been overlooked here is the fact that if you can pass a piss test to get welfare you should be able to pass a piss test to get a job.

I would imagine the welfare recipients who are able to pass a piss test become employed and cycle off welfare faster than what we saw before. If that is the case, and common sense indicates it should be, then the program is effective for reasons other than strict principle.

Skjellyfetti wrote:I know it goes against y'all's half-witted stereotypes... but, the vast majority of welfare recipients aren't on drugs.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

houndawg wrote:I think it's a great idea and that the State legislators should lead by example.

We deserve better than a bunch of junkies making laws after washing down a couple of Xanax with some martinis at lunch. No legislator should be allowed to vote on the people's business unless he/she can pass a piss test immediately before the vote.

Effing well know that crowd will be >2% positive....

Agreed.

Skjellyfetti wrote:I know it goes against y'all's half-witted stereotypes... but, the vast majority of welfare recipients aren't on drugs.

D1B wrote:

blueballs wrote:What has been overlooked here is the fact that if you can pass a piss test to get welfare you should be able to pass a piss test to get a job.

I would imagine the welfare recipients who are able to pass a piss test become employed and cycle off welfare faster than what we saw before. If that is the case, and common sense indicates it should be, then the program is effective for reasons other than strict principle.

Agree but, it's still targeting the poor.

If you're going to do this, piss test everyone who gets a welfare check and piss test all governement workers. (I noticed your governor backed off on that part of it, the coward) Lotta drunks and RX drug addicts making big decisions with our lives. I could care less about TANF recipents.

You know this is nothing but a move to satiate the cynical thirst in most conks and tea bagger low lifes for villifying the poor.