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Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:24 am
by Cap'n Cat
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No one had yet heard of a Florida teenager named Trayvon Martin when a group of Wisconsin Republicans got together last year to discuss expanding a self-defense bill before the State Legislature.
The bill, known as the Castle Doctrine, made it harder to prosecute or sue people who used deadly force against intruders inside their houses.
But the Wisconsin legislators, urged on by the National Rifle Association in a series of meetings, wanted it to go further. They shaped an amendment that extended the bill’s protections to include lawns, sidewalks and swimming pools outside the residences, as well as vehicles and places of business.
That expanded bill, passed with little debate by the Legislature and signed in December by Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, is the newest of more than two dozen so-called Stand Your Ground statutes that have been enacted around the country in recent years.
Those laws are now coming under increased scrutiny after Mr. Martin was shot to death by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch coordinator, in late February. Similar legislation is pending in several other states, including Alaska, Massachusetts and New York.
Critics see the laws as part of a national campaign by the National Rifle Association, which began gathering on Thursday in St. Louis for its annual meeting, to push back against limits on gun ownership and use.
That effort, they say, has been assisted by conservative legislators in states like Wisconsin, and by the American Legislative Exchange Council, which has promoted model legislation based on Florida’s law; the council, known as ALEC, is a conservative networking organization made up of legislators, corporations like Walmart, a large retailer of long guns, and interest groups like the rifle association.
The success of the campaign is reflected in the rapid spread of expanded self-defense laws as well as laws that legalize the carrying of concealed weapons.

Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:28 am
by GannonFan
Eh, there's no limit of the special interest groups who have swooped in on this controversy. Opportunists from both sides of the aisle are setting up camp in Florida over this one. I'm not sure how you can pick one out of the bunch from all the others.
Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:32 am
by Cap'n Cat
GannonFan wrote:Eh, there's no limit of the special interest groups who have swooped in on this controversy. Opportunists from both sides of the aisle are setting up camp in Florida over this one. I'm not sure how you can pick one out of the bunch from all the others.
Easy. It's a Conk thug group and Sarah Palin blows all comers there.

Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:42 am
by Baldy
Cap'n Cat wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47038437/ns ... 4g2E1HabJw
No one had yet heard of a Florida teenager named Trayvon Martin when a group of Wisconsin Republicans got together last year to discuss expanding a self-defense bill before the State Legislature.
The bill, known as the Castle Doctrine, made it harder to prosecute or sue people who used deadly force against intruders inside their houses.
But the Wisconsin legislators, urged on by the National Rifle Association in a series of meetings, wanted it to go further. They shaped an amendment that extended the bill’s protections to include lawns, sidewalks and swimming pools outside the residences, as well as vehicles and places of business.
That expanded bill, passed with little debate by the Legislature and signed in December by Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, is the newest of more than two dozen so-called Stand Your Ground statutes that have been enacted around the country in recent years.
Those laws are now coming under increased scrutiny after Mr. Martin was shot to death by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch coordinator, in late February. Similar legislation is pending in several other states, including Alaska, Massachusetts and New York.
Critics see the laws as part of a national campaign by the National Rifle Association, which began gathering on Thursday in St. Louis for its annual meeting, to push back against limits on gun ownership and use.
That effort, they say, has been assisted by conservative legislators in states like Wisconsin, and by the American Legislative Exchange Council, which has promoted model legislation based on Florida’s law; the council, known as ALEC, is a conservative networking organization made up of legislators, corporations like Walmart, a large retailer of long guns, and interest groups like the rifle association.
The success of the campaign is reflected in the rapid spread of expanded self-defense laws as well as laws that legalize the carrying of concealed weapons.

Thank you, Constitution.
As soon as Cappy condemns Big Race for injecting themselves into this situation and grasping onto it as a fundraising opportunity, you're doing nothing more than trolling.

Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:45 am
by Cap'n Cat
Baldy wrote:Cap'n Cat wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47038437/ns ... 4g2E1HabJw
No one had yet heard of a Florida teenager named Trayvon Martin when a group of Wisconsin Republicans got together last year to discuss expanding a self-defense bill before the State Legislature.
The bill, known as the Castle Doctrine, made it harder to prosecute or sue people who used deadly force against intruders inside their houses.
But the Wisconsin legislators, urged on by the National Rifle Association in a series of meetings, wanted it to go further. They shaped an amendment that extended the bill’s protections to include lawns, sidewalks and swimming pools outside the residences, as well as vehicles and places of business.
That expanded bill, passed with little debate by the Legislature and signed in December by Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, is the newest of more than two dozen so-called Stand Your Ground statutes that have been enacted around the country in recent years.
Those laws are now coming under increased scrutiny after Mr. Martin was shot to death by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch coordinator, in late February. Similar legislation is pending in several other states, including Alaska, Massachusetts and New York.
Critics see the laws as part of a national campaign by the National Rifle Association, which began gathering on Thursday in St. Louis for its annual meeting, to push back against limits on gun ownership and use.
That effort, they say, has been assisted by conservative legislators in states like Wisconsin, and by the American Legislative Exchange Council, which has promoted model legislation based on Florida’s law; the council, known as ALEC, is a conservative networking organization made up of legislators, corporations like Walmart, a large retailer of long guns, and interest groups like the rifle association.
The success of the campaign is reflected in the rapid spread of expanded self-defense laws as well as laws that legalize the carrying of concealed weapons.

Thank you, Constitution.
As soon as Cappy condemns Big Race for injecting themselves into this situation and grasping onto it as a fundraising opportunity, you're doing nothing more than trolling.

Hey, you're right, Baldy. I am doing nothing less than what you do.
You must have missed the thread about me agreeing with Fox News on this issue?
Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:26 am
by Skjellyfetti
Big Race? That's a thing now?
Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:33 am
by Ivytalk
Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:37 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Cap'n Cat wrote:GannonFan wrote:Eh, there's no limit of the special interest groups who have swooped in on this controversy. Opportunists from both sides of the aisle are setting up camp in Florida over this one. I'm not sure how you can pick one out of the bunch from all the others.
Easy. It's a Conk thug group and Sarah Palin blows all comers there.

Not true.............if she did.....I would be a member.
Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:50 am
by Baldy
Skjellyfetti wrote:Big Race? That's a thing now?
Absolutely, racism is big business and it pays very well.
The last thing Sharpton, Jackson, and the rest of those goons want is for racism to end. They will fan the flames any time they get a chance.

Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:59 am
by lakesbison
BALDY IS RIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!
Baldy wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:Big Race? That's a thing now?
Absolutely, racism is big business and it pays very well.
The last thing Sharpton, Jackson, and the rest of those goons want is for racism to end. They will fan the flames any time they get a chance.

Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:07 am
by Cap'n Cat
Baldy wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:Big Race? That's a thing now?
Absolutely, racism is big business and it pays very well.
The last thing Sharpton, Jackson, and the rest of those goons want is for racism to end. They will fan the flames any time they get a chance.

Hey, this proud liberal agrees with Baldy and Rush on this, 100%. Cooler heads need to mediate these terrible things and those clowns are, decidedly, NOT cooler heads.

Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:37 am
by Bronco
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Again
As always whatever the progressives say you are doing
It is what they are doing
Who didn’t see this coming? House Democrats are using the killing of Trayvon Martin as a conduit to push more gun control laws on law abiding American citizens. The Congressional Black Caucus is planning on introducing a resolution which would override and repeal “stand your ground” laws in states which currently have this legislation on the books.
Never let a good crisis go to waste
http://americaswatchtower.com/2012/04/0 ... gislation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:50 am
by Benne
If the stand your ground law is what gets Zimmerman off the hook, then it needs to be looked at. Certainly this wasn't the intent of the law. However, it won't. I believe Zimmerman walks on a Murder 2 rap. I think it was manslaughter. I also don't understand how the situation and individuals involved are being dropped to look at the gun issue. I'm sure there are plenty of people with carry and conceal that haven't ended up in this situation. If choosing to exercise your right to carry a gun, you are carrying a lot of responsibility. There appeared, from what I've read, to be a lot of irresponsible behavior that night.
Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:28 am
by Cap'n Cat
Bronco wrote:-
Again
As always whatever the progressives say you are doing
It is what they are doing
Who didn’t see this coming? House Democrats are using the killing of Trayvon Martin as a conduit to push more gun control laws on law abiding American citizens. The Congressional Black Caucus is planning on introducing a resolution which would override and repeal “stand your ground” laws in states which currently have this legislation on the books.
Never let a good crisis go to waste
http://americaswatchtower.com/2012/04/0 ... gislation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
America's Watchtower
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Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:56 pm
by BlueHen86
Benne wrote:If the stand your ground law is what gets Zimmerman off the hook, then it needs to be looked at. Certainly this wasn't the intent of the law. However, it won't. I believe Zimmerman walks on a Murder 2 rap. I think it was manslaughter. I also don't understand how the situation and individuals involved are being dropped to look at the gun issue. I'm sure there are plenty of people with carry and conceal that haven't ended up in this situation. If choosing to exercise your right to carry a gun, you are carrying a lot of responsibility. There appeared, from what I've read, to be a lot of irresponsible behavior that night.
Well said.
Re: Like Vultures, NRA Swoops In On Martin Controversy
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:47 pm
by polsongrizz
I bought my first 30-30 when I was 13 with my own money. Not one time since then have I ever thought I needed to join this useless group, and after that jackass Heston took over even less so.