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You know what I'm talking about. Election time comes and the phone rings every few minutes with a political call. It's that time now in Louisiana with the Republican primary. STOP already!

We really do need a list we can get on where political campaigns are NOT allowed to call us.

JohnStOnge wrote:You know what I'm talking about. Election time comes and the phone rings every few minutes with a political call. It's that time now in Louisiana with the Republican primary. STOP already!

We really do need a list we can get on where political campaigns are NOT allowed to call us.

You realize who writes the laws don't you?

yeah... not going to happen.

You realize who writes the laws don't you?

yeah... not going to happen.

Ok you work on political campaigns. Does that crap really help? I mean...me...it just aggravates the heck out of me. No WAY I'm going to vote for somebody because of one of those calls. Probably won't change what I'm going to do. But the only possibility of change is change in the wrong direction for those who call.

JSO in favor of expanding the power of the FCC and FTC? Say it ain't so.

JohnStOnge wrote:

You realize who writes the laws don't you?

yeah... not going to happen.

Ok you work on political campaigns. Does that crap really help? I mean...me...it just aggravates the heck out of me. No WAY I'm going to vote for somebody because of one of those calls. Probably won't change what I'm going to do. But the only possibility of change is change in the wrong direction for those who call.

Of course it works. A good GOTV program is worth 4-5 points in a primary if you do it well.

Every election cycle I hear people say what you are saying... it never bears out that way. for every person like you who says these things - you turn out 3-5 voters.

more to the point - nobody who says "just for that I'll vote for the other guy" is either serious or ever considered voting for your guy in the first place... so we don't worry about it.

reminding people to get out and vote does much more good than harm. as for what we call "persuasion calls" they work, depending on the script, at a rate of around 5%... but since the entire field operation is all about the margins... it makes perfect sense to do it.

Skjellyfetti wrote:JSO in favor of expanding the power of the FCC and FTC? Say it ain't so.

You know that's a good angle. But remember, the principle is you can do whatever you want until you directly and definitely infringe upon someone else. When you are making repeated, unsolicited calls to someone you're infringing upon them. It's perfectly consistent with my philosophy to say that government should do something to prevent it just as it is to say government legitimately say people can't come stand in front of your house and scream into bullhorns all night so you can't sleep.

Giving you a phone call isn't anywhere near the same thing as standing in front of your house screaming into a bullhorn all night so you can't sleep.

If phone calls make you angry... disconnect your phone line. Don't whine about the governement not stepping in to regulate who can call you.

You're an old dude, though... so, I'm assuming you have some irrational attachment to your landline and disconnecting it isn't an option.

Skjellyfetti wrote:Giving you a phone call isn't anywhere near the same thing as standing in front of your house screaming into a bullhorn all night so you can't sleep.

If phone calls make you angry... disconnect your phone line. Don't whine about the governement not stepping in to regulate who can call you.

You're an old dude, though... so, I'm assuming you have some irrational attachment to your landline and disconnecting it isn't an option.

Or...he could just not answer it. ...

JohnStOnge wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:JSO in favor of expanding the power of the FCC and FTC? Say it ain't so.

You know that's a good angle. But remember, the principle is you can do whatever you want until you directly and definitely infringe upon someone else. When you are making repeated, unsolicited calls to someone you're infringing upon them. It's perfectly consistent with my philosophy to say that government should do something to prevent it just as it is to say government legitimately say people can't come stand in front of your house and scream into bullhorns all night so you can't sleep.

political speech is some of the most sacred in the Constitution...

not going to get laws passed infringing upon political speech.

more to the point - you are a registered voter - that is a public list.

You can simply tell the caller to place you on their internal "do not call list"... downside for you is... every party and every campaign has their own list - they either buy them from the party, or they acquire their own from a list vendor... either way... you're on a lot of lists.

grizzaholic wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:Giving you a phone call isn't anywhere near the same thing as standing in front of your house screaming into a bullhorn all night so you can't sleep.

If phone calls make you angry... disconnect your phone line. Don't whine about the governement not stepping in to regulate who can call you.

You're an old dude, though... so, I'm assuming you have some irrational attachment to your landline and disconnecting it isn't an option.

Or...he could just not answer it. ...

not really... we'll call up to 3 times/day until you answer. Every. Single. Day. He's been targeted for a reason. He fits somebodies campaign model of a "likely voter"

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:

Or...he could just not answer it. ...

not really... we'll call up to 3 times/day until you answer. Every. Single. Day. He's been targeted for a reason. He fits somebodies campaign model of a "likely voter"

Or... I could tell you that I will come kill you if you call again.

grizzaholic wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
not really... we'll call up to 3 times/day until you answer. Every. Single. Day. He's been targeted for a reason. He fits somebodies campaign model of a "likely voter"

Or... I could tell you that I will come kill you if you call again.

that's what *57 is for... I've set the police on more than one person.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Or... I could tell you that I will come kill you if you call again.

that's what *57 is for... I've set the police on more than one person.

Typical Bison fan.

grizzaholic wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
that's what *57 is for... I've set the police on more than one person.

Typical Bison fan.

I wish I were joking... however, having tried to calm and console a terrified volunteer who, while out door-knocking had some psychopath sic his Rottweiler at her when she tried to canvass his house... and having talked to the police 2-3 times/cycle about threats made against our phonebankers... I've lost a lot of my sense of humor about it (especially after what happened it Tucson...)

It's odd, they never call me. Could be the lack of a land line.

Vidav wrote:It's odd, they never call me. Could be the lack of a land line.

I thought it was because you lived in the Mother Land?

Vidav wrote:It's odd, they never call me. Could be the lack of a land line.

we're getting way more cell phones than we used to have. we've had to... you can't talk to anyone under 35 on landlines anymore...

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
Ok you work on political campaigns. Does that crap really help? I mean...me...it just aggravates the heck out of me. No WAY I'm going to vote for somebody because of one of those calls. Probably won't change what I'm going to do. But the only possibility of change is change in the wrong direction for those who call.

Of course it works. A good GOTV program is worth 4-5 points in a primary if you do it well.

Every election cycle I hear people say what you are saying... it never bears out that way. for every person like you who says these things - you turn out 3-5 voters.

more to the point - nobody who says "just for that I'll vote for the other guy" is either serious or ever considered voting for your guy in the first place... so we don't worry about it.

reminding people to get out and vote does much more good than harm. as for what we call "persuasion calls" they work, depending on the script, at a rate of around 5%... but since the entire field operation is all about the margins... it makes perfect sense to do it.

Whenever I get called I tell them I'm voting for their guy. Doesn't matter who it is, it gets them off the phone faster. I'm part of that "margin of error".

I can deal with the calls if it is before 8pm. I would rip their private part off if I could when they call after that.

AZGrizFan wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
Of course it works. A good GOTV program is worth 4-5 points in a primary if you do it well.

Every election cycle I hear people say what you are saying... it never bears out that way. for every person like you who says these things - you turn out 3-5 voters.

more to the point - nobody who says "just for that I'll vote for the other guy" is either serious or ever considered voting for your guy in the first place... so we don't worry about it.

reminding people to get out and vote does much more good than harm. as for what we call "persuasion calls" they work, depending on the script, at a rate of around 5%... but since the entire field operation is all about the margins... it makes perfect sense to do it.

Whenever I get called I tell them I'm voting for their guy. Doesn't matter who it is, it gets them off the phone faster. I'm part of that "margin of error".

there's a man who knows how the scam works...

you are 100% right - this is THE fastest way to get them off the phone - however - too early in the campaign - they'll nag you to volunteer a lot.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Whenever I get called I tell them I'm voting for their guy. Doesn't matter who it is, it gets them off the phone faster. I'm part of that "margin of error".

there's a man who knows how the scam works...

you are 100% right - this is THE fastest way to get them off the phone - however - too early in the campaign - they'll nag you to volunteer a lot.

Yep...there are some potential pitfalls...the last one was so excited they asked if I would put a sign in my yard....I declined.

JohnStOnge wrote:

You realize who writes the laws don't you?

yeah... not going to happen.

Ok you work on political campaigns. Does that crap really help? I mean...me...it just aggravates the heck out of me. No WAY I'm going to vote for somebody because of one of those calls. Probably won't change what I'm going to do. But the only possibility of change is change in the wrong direction for those who call.

Hang up.

$10 and a half pint of gin would go a lot farther...

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

Vidav wrote:It's odd, they never call me. Could be the lack of a land line.

we're getting way more cell phones than we used to have. we've had to... you can't talk to anyone under 35 on landlines anymore...

I'm surprised you can do that...what if someone doesn't have unlimited talk time (not even sure if that exists as an option)? You are costing them money.

Wait...those government (tax payer) sponsored free phones with 200 minutes of free time...they'd be the PERFECT list for a democrat.

TTBF, I've just made you rich. Set up a deal with those free phone companies and get them to sell you their list. Even better...have the company not count those minutes towards the person's limit. Call them before their local (you should be able to narrow down each person's location) and national elections...get out the uneducated voter.

You're welcome.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:

Or...he could just not answer it. ...

not really... we'll call up to 3 times/day until you answer. Every. Single. Day. He's been targeted for a reason. He fits somebodies campaign model of a "likely voter"

I think I got one of those fuckers calling me for Rehberg or Tester. They can call 87 times a day, if I don't recognize the # I wont answer it.