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Romney is roughly 50% there. Santorum is roughly 24% there. What do you think of Ricks chances. Should he quit, support Romney, solidify the party and hope for a cabinet position?

Santorum is certifiably insane, he isn't going to quit. All signs point to a brokered convention for the GOP. Especially if Gingrich and Paul remains in the race.

DSUrocks07 wrote:Santorum is certifiably insane, he isn't going to quit. All signs point to a brokered convention for the GOP. Especially if Gingrich and Paul remains in the race.

Paul needs to remove some of these other GOP fuckers.

The race would be boring without "The Napkin" involved. Wish Newt would butt out and let this race get more interesting.

DSUrocks07 wrote:Santorum is certifiably insane, he isn't going to quit. All signs point to a brokered convention for the GOP. Especially if Gingrich and Paul remains in the race.

Nah, Romney will have it wrapped up. The calendar was always backloaded, that's the overriding thing keeping this race seemingly longer than previous ones. They intentionally kept the bigger states and the winner-take-all primaries until later in the calendar, much more so than any previous nomination campaign. A lot of what's happened so far are smaller states and split delegate counts, and that means no one gets separation. We'll see in about a month, but I think Santorum, although he may never quit, officially loses the nomination to Romney when Santorum gets trounced in his home state of PA.

Ibanez wrote:There is a total of 2,286 delegates.
A candidate needs 1,144 to win the nomination
There are 1,294 delegates yet to pledge.



Romney is roughly 50% there. Santorum is roughly 24% there. What do you think of Ricks chances. Should he quit, support Romney, solidify the party and hope for a cabinet position?

Doesn't matter neither one will beat Obama in November!!!!!!!!

dal4018 wrote:

Ibanez wrote:There is a total of 2,286 delegates.
A candidate needs 1,144 to win the nomination
There are 1,294 delegates yet to pledge.



Romney is roughly 50% there. Santorum is roughly 24% there. What do you think of Ricks chances. Should he quit, support Romney, solidify the party and hope for a cabinet position?

Doesn't matter neither one will beat Obama in November!!!!!!!!

Never say never.

DSUrocks07 wrote:Santorum is certifiably insane, he isn't going to quit. All signs point to a brokered convention for the GOP. Especially if Gingrich and Paul remains in the race.

Newt isn't even relevant outside of the south, he took fourth to Paul last night. After LA votes on Saturday he is finished and since the caucuses are about done, Paul is basically no longer a relevant candidate as well.

Santorum will quit a few days after April 24th at that time it should be clear that he has no chance.

FargoBison wrote:

DSUrocks07 wrote:Santorum is certifiably insane, he isn't going to quit. All signs point to a brokered convention for the GOP. Especially if Gingrich and Paul remains in the race.

Newt isn't even relevant outside of the south, he took fourth to Paul last night. After LA votes on Saturday he is finished and since the caucuses are about done, Paul is basically no longer a relevant candidate as well.

Santorum will quit a few days after April 24th at that time it should be clear that he has no chance.

I think it's getting clearer and clearer.

dal4018 wrote:Doesn't matter neither one will beat Obama in November!!!!!!!!

Even though it doesn't help Campaign 469 - you're most likely correct.

Santorum...worse than Obama.

Cluck U wrote:Santorum...worse than Obama.

and he's masquerading as a "true Conservative"

although if the GOP were dumb enough to select him as the candidate...I'd vote for him just for the hell of it

#Sarah2012

SuperHornet wrote:#Sarah2012

what Casey? Why does she deserve to be President. Start a tread and list all of her qualifications. Include all posts she has quit. Go!

So the incumbent has no qualifications, but that's OK, while many see Sarah as having none and spouting off about that is ALSO OK?!?

Double standard!!!

I've already stated her infinitely higher quals than the incumbent a zillion times already. No need to rehash all that.

dal4018 wrote:

Ibanez wrote:There is a total of 2,286 delegates.
A candidate needs 1,144 to win the nomination
There are 1,294 delegates yet to pledge.



Romney is roughly 50% there. Santorum is roughly 24% there. What do you think of Ricks chances. Should he quit, support Romney, solidify the party and hope for a cabinet position?

Doesn't matter neither one will beat Obama in November!!!!!!!!

Bathhouse Barry will be able to go back to his secret life away from Moochelle in January.

Come on, CG. BHO may well be one of the most corrupt presidents we've ever had, but in no way does that make Michelle a cow.

SuperHornet wrote:So the incumbent has no qualifications, but that's OK, while many see Sarah as having none and spouting off about that is ALSO OK?!?

Double standard!!!

I've already stated her infinitely higher quals than the incumbent a zillion times already. No need to rehash all that.

He has as much as Palin. He was a law professor and US Senator.

Palin was a Sport Reporter and a Governor (which she quit). She was a mayor (but had no governoring power, as stated by her successor) She was chairperson of the Oil and Gas Comittee (which she quit).



So. Which of these "infintely higher quals" make her "a zillion times" better?


And shame on YOU for your double standard, fuckin hypocrite.

SuperHornet wrote:So the incumbent has no qualifications, but that's OK, while many see Sarah as having none and spouting off about that is ALSO OK?!?

Double standard!!!

I've already stated her infinitely higher quals than the incumbent a zillion times already. No need to rehash all that.

SuperHornet wrote:Come on, CG. BHO may well be one of the most corrupt presidents we've ever had, but in no way does that make Michelle a cow.

She's a cow and a moocher, hence the name Moochelle.

SuperHornet wrote:Come on, CG. BHO may well be one of the most corrupt presidents we've ever had, but in no way does that make Michelle a cow.

I really wish you people would give supporting evidence when you make ridiculous claims.

Surely you're not talking about BOTH halves of my statement, Mark.

Ibanez wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:Come on, CG. BHO may well be one of the most corrupt presidents we've ever had, but in no way does that make Michelle a cow.

I really wish you people .

what do you mean "you people"?

SuperHornet wrote:Surely you're not talking about BOTH halves of my statement, Mark.

W was one of the most corrupt presidents ever. . .

Spoiler: show

George W. Bush (2001-2009) came to office through a Supreme Court decision following a contested plurality of 537 votes in Florida, and his defeat by over half a million votes in the popular election. Most Americans know how narrow the vote was in Florida, but not why.

Five months before the election, George Bush’s brother, Florida Governor Jeb Bush, had 57,700 people purged from the voter rolls—ostensibly for being convicted felons, who were not allowed by Florida law to vote. As it turns out, over 90% of the voters on the hit list were not felons at all. Some of their supposed felonies were actually dated in the future. It was an overwhelmingly Democratic list of voters—over half blacks and Hispanics. Had these citizens not been prevented from voting, Al Gore would have been elected President of the United States.³

With six years in public office as Governor of Texas, Bush was new to foreign affairs, as evidenced by an interview during the campaign in which he could not identify a number of leaders of major countries. But savvy political handler Karl Rove knew that Bush's surplus of style could make up for his deficit of substance with many American voters. Rove groomed Bush’s image as a Washington outsider (though a Yale-educated President's son), born again Christian, and down home cowboy.

The cowboy image required a "ranch," a la Reagan, so in the year before the 2000 election, Bush purchased one in Crawford, Texas. Although no actual ranching ever went on there, the President busied himself clearing brush and riding his mountain bike around the property. He liked his "ranch" so much that he spent a greater percentage of his time on vacation than any President in American history.4

But then, George W. Bush had many cares of the office to escape. While at the ranch on a six week vacation in August, 2001, he received a memo from Condoleeza Rice entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.”

That's what happened a few weeks later on September 11 —apparently after no special effort by the White House to step up protection against the hijackings that were being predicted by intelligence reports. Several days after the attacks, when U.S. air space was still closed, Bush authorized special flights back to Saudi Arabia for Osama bin Laden's relatives and other wealthy Saudis, "for their safety." The White House then vigorously fought creation of the 9-11 commission, which Bush and Cheney finally testified before together (try that at your local police station). With 14 of the 18 hijackers from Saudi Arabia, the administration redacted multiple pages of the commission's report on Saudi involvement in the attack.

Four years later, while on another extended vacation at the "ranch," Bush was briefed on the destruction about to be unleashed on the Gulf Coast by Hurricane Katrina, including the likelihood that levies in New Orleans would be breached. In the videotaped meeting, Bush asked no questions. He then flew to California to raise money for Republican candidates.

The man he left in charge, his politically appointed director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Michael Brown, was woefully unprepared to handle the disaster that ensued when the levies broke and New Orleans flooded. (The only thing he'd managed before the FEMA job was Arabian horse shows.)

In between 9-11 and Katrina, Bush's "War on Terror" lost track of Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan and turned its attention to invading Iraq. Removing Saddam Hussein from power was imperative, Bush said, because (a) he had weapons of mass destruction, (b) was linked to Al Qaeda terrorists who attacked the U.S. on 9/11, and (c) needed to be removed to make that country safe for democracy. All of the reasons given for the war were soon discredited by real events, but Bush dug America in for the long haul, saying that “future Presidents” would decide when we’d leave Iraq.

After all, there was much to be gained by staying. Halliburton, the firm formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney, was one of the biggest beneficiaries, gaining multi-billion dollar contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as America's ravaged gulf coast, by sealed, noncompetitive bids. In gratitude, in 2007 the company moved its corporate headquarters from Houston to Dubai, thereby avoiding U.S. taxes.

The Bush family was not left off the War on Terror's money train. Uncle "Bucky" earned millions in a war firm sale in 2006.

Other Bush scandals include: the secret meetings of Cheney’s “Energy Council,” followed by systematic weakening of America's environmental laws and staffing of the EPA and other agencies with industry insiders, the attempt to dismantle Social Security, the dumbing down of American education through No Child Left Behind, an inherited budget surplus turned into record deficit by waging two wars while cutting taxes--with the vast majority of benefits going to the super-rich, the torture of prisoners and loss of American goodwill overseas, the bullying of administration whistle blowers such as Joseph Wilson (whose wife was outted as a CIA agent), another tainted election with Ohio voting irregularities in 2004, the arrest of White House appointees for assorted crimes, the mistreatment of returning war veterans at Walter Reed and other hospitals, and for a grand finale, a leading role in the collapse of the economy through its aggressive deregulation and non-policing of the financial markets.

With so much bad news for Americans to handle over eight years of corruption and incompetence, Karl Rove and other White House insiders took to calling any favorable news events that could help people forget bad news as "page turners." Now President Obama also wants America to turn the page and "look forward" rather than go after wrongdoers from the Bush administration, such as those who ordered torture...as if good government no longer required accountability. But those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Historians will likely judge the Bush scandals as far more extensive than any that disgraced Grant, Harding, Nixon, or any other American president, due to their sheer scale. He ranks 39th out of 43 presidents in the Siena Institute's survey of 238 presidential scholars released in July, 2010.

--Robert C. Keating, Editor

© 2010 Most Corrupt.com
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¹ Compton’s Encyclopedia
² Sally Denton, "Politics' Unfair Sex," Los Angeles Times, December 22, 2009
³ Greg Palast, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (Plume, 2002)
4 Evgenia Peretz, Vanity Fair (November 2005)

SuperHornet wrote:Surely you're not talking about BOTH halves of my statement, Mark.

No the corrupt part. Explain yourself!