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I was talking to my brother, who I always took as a conservative Republican, and he mentioned that Bill Clinton would be the best person to turn this country around. I agreed. He then said that Hilliary should run, with Bill as a great advisor, she could turn this country around. She's tough, she's ballsy and I think the shock will really help America.


Your Thoughts.

Prediction: Regardless who wins the election this year, in 4 years we'll be in better shape than today. If a conk is in office, they'll boast about successful economic policies, while the donks will boast about the investments of the stimulus package and obamacare paying off in the long run. If Obama is in office, the conks will say he delayed the recovery with his fiscal policies, while the donks will say his policies saved us from oblivion and guided us to prosperity.

That's politics everybody.

youngterrier wrote:Prediction: Regardless who wins the election this year, in 4 years we'll be in better shape than today. If a conk is in office, they'll boast about successful economic policies, while the donks will boast about the investments of the stimulus package and obamacare paying off in the long run. If Obama is in office, the conks will say he delayed the recovery with his fiscal policies, while the donks will say his policies saved us from oblivion and guided us to prosperity.

That's politics everybody.

YT: Recipient of the CS Youth Progress Award.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

youngterrier wrote:Prediction: Regardless who wins the election this year, in 4 years we'll be in better shape than today. If a conk is in office, they'll boast about successful economic policies, while the donks will boast about the investments of the stimulus package and obamacare paying off in the long run. If Obama is in office, the conks will say he delayed the recovery with his fiscal policies, while the donks will say his policies saved us from oblivion and guided us to prosperity.

That's politics everybody.

YT: Recipient of the CS Youth Progress Award.

citdog wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:

YT: Recipient of the CS Youth Progress Award.

Um, no. That's native.

I could beat up Jonathan Krohn.

youngterrier wrote:Prediction: Regardless who wins the election this year, in 4 years we'll be in better shape than today. If a conk is in office, they'll boast about successful economic policies, while the donks will boast about the investments of the stimulus package and obamacare paying off in the long run. If Obama is in office, the conks will say he delayed the recovery with his fiscal policies, while the donks will say his policies saved us from oblivion and guided us to prosperity.

That's politics everybody.

BS. The US will be Greece times 10.

BDKJMU wrote:

youngterrier wrote:Prediction: Regardless who wins the election this year, in 4 years we'll be in better shape than today. If a conk is in office, they'll boast about successful economic policies, while the donks will boast about the investments of the stimulus package and obamacare paying off in the long run. If Obama is in office, the conks will say he delayed the recovery with his fiscal policies, while the donks will say his policies saved us from oblivion and guided us to prosperity.

That's politics everybody.

BS. The US will be Greece times 10.

Well aren't we the optimist

youngterrier wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
BS. The US will be Greece times 10.

Well aren't we the optimist

U.S. National debt to GDP was about 80% when Obama entered office. It has now surpassed 100% (103% this past Jan), and it is skyrocketing. Greece hit 160% and has had to have 2 massive bailouts. There will be no one to bailout the US. We have reached a tipping point. The country is f***ed. The pending economic doom that will hit within the next decade will make the Great Depression and Recession look like child's play.

BDKJMU wrote:

youngterrier wrote: Well aren't we the optimist

U.S. National debt to GDP was about 80% when Obama entered office. It has now surpassed 100% (103% this past Jan), and it is skyrocketing. Greece hit 160% and has had to have 2 massive bailouts. There will be no one to bailout the US. We have reached a tipping point. The country is f***ed. The pending economic doom that will hit within the next decade will make the Great Depression and Recession look like child's play.

Well aren't we the optimist

youngterrier wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
U.S. National debt to GDP was about 80% when Obama entered office. It has now surpassed 100% (103% this past Jan), and it is skyrocketing. Greece hit 160% and has had to have 2 massive bailouts. There will be no one to bailout the US. We have reached a tipping point. The country is f***ed. The pending economic doom that will hit within the next decade will make the Great Depression and Recession look like child's play.

Well aren't we the optimist

Just take a look at some of these sobering #s. Note:

-US National Debt: $15.504 trillion
-Debt Per Citizen: $39,504
-Debt Per taxpayer: $136,973

-US Federal Spending: $3.585 trillion
-US Federal Tax Revenue: $2.270 trillion
-US Federal Budget Deficit: $1.314 trillion

-Gross Debt to GDP Ratio: 102.899%
-Revenue to GDP Ratio: 32.59%
-Spending to GDP Ratio: 43.73%

-US Total Interest: $3.773 trillion
-Interest Per Citizen: $12,050
-US Total Debt: $57.119 trillion
-Personal Debt Per Citizen: $50,980
-Total Debt Per Citizen: $182,372
-Total Debt Per Family: $689,854

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You cannot look at these #s and not come away with the conclusion that we as a nation are fu***d...

You'll know you're fucked when the government starts confiscating gold. Napolitano's "See something, say something" will mean inform on your neighbors if you see them wearing a gold ring or watch.

CG: Are we starting to turn into Revolutionary France?

SuperHornet wrote:CG: Are we starting to turn into Revolutionary France?

Only in the sense that the ruling 1% don't give a shit about the rest of the country - and do whatever it takes to keep it that way, even being traitors to their own country (which describes most of them).

Oh good lord, the conk hand wringing has reached epic proportions already and it's only March! What was debt to GDP ratio following the Great Depression, or WWII?

Quitters.

kalm wrote:Oh good lord, the conk hand wringing has reached epic proportions already and it's only March! What was debt to GDP ratio following the Great Depression, or WWII?

Quitters.

Meh... FDR had haters too...

these guys are just doing their best Father Caughlin and Huey Long impressions...

SuperHornet wrote:CG: Are we starting to turn into Revolutionary France?

Didn't France forfeit that war?

grizzaholic wrote:

SuperHornet wrote:CG: Are we starting to turn into Revolutionary France?

Didn't France forfeit that war?

How could France have a revolution anyway? That would be the French fighting the French. Which side would surrender first?

Revolutionary France?

That is a classic oxymoron.

HI54UNI wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Didn't France forfeit that war?

How could France have a revolution anyway? That would be the French fighting the French. Which side would surrender first?

Both sides waved the white flag and Andorra claimed victory.

Wedgebuster wrote:Revolutionary France?

That is a classic oxymoron.

France had one of the bloodiest revolutions in history. We could use a Robespierre here.