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AP source: Israel won't warn US before Iran strike (Israel doesn't trust Obama)
google ^ | 2/27/2012 | KIMBERLY DOZIER, AP

Israeli officials say they won't warn the U.S. if they decide to launch a pre-emptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities, according to one U.S. intelligence official familiar with the discussions. The pronouncement, delivered in a series of private, top-level conversations, sets a tense tone ahead of meetings in the coming days at the White House and Capitol Hill.

Israeli officials said that if they eventually decide a strike is necessary, they would keep the Americans in the dark to decrease the likelihood that the U.S. would be held responsible for failing to stop Israel's potential attack. The U.S. has been working with the Israelis for months to persuade them that an attack would be only a temporary setback to Iran's nuclear program.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak delivered the message to a series of top-level U.S. visitors to the country, including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the White House national security adviser and the director of national intelligence, and top U.S. lawmakers, all trying to close the trust gap between Israel and the U.S. over how to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions.

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Cap'n Cat wrote:US says North Korea agrees to nuclear moratorium

By msnbc.com news services
The United States said on Wednesday that North Korea had agreed to implement a moratorium on nuclear tests, long-range missile launches and nuclear activities including enrichment at its Yongbyon nuclear complex and to allow U.N. nuclear watchdog inspectors in to ensure compliance.
The State Department said that the United States in return had agreed to finalize details of a proposed food aid package and to take other steps to improve bilateral ties.
"The United States still has profound concerns regarding North Korean behavior across a wide range of areas, but today's announcement reflects important, if limited, progress in addressing some of these," a State Department statement said.



Separately, the North's KCNA news agency confirmed Pyongyang had agreed to a moratorium on nuclear tests, long-range missile launches and enrichment of uranium at its Yongbyon nuclear facility.
The North would also allow inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency to monitor the moratorium on enrichment, the news agency said.
It said North Korea had made the decisions in response to a U.S. request and "with a view to maintaining positive atmosphere" for what it described as high-level North Korean U.S. talks.




Note the highlighted above, people, and compare to Conk saber-rattling of years past. President Obama is working to create a worldwide environment of peace based on dialogue, one that will ultimately be successful.

89Hen wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:US says North Korea agrees to nuclear moratorium

By msnbc.com news services
The United States said on Wednesday that North Korea had agreed to implement a moratorium on nuclear tests, long-range missile launches and nuclear activities including enrichment at its Yongbyon nuclear complex and to allow U.N. nuclear watchdog inspectors in to ensure compliance.
The State Department said that the United States in return had agreed to finalize details of a proposed food aid package and to take other steps to improve bilateral ties.
"The United States still has profound concerns regarding North Korean behavior across a wide range of areas, but today's announcement reflects important, if limited, progress in addressing some of these," a State Department statement said.



Separately, the North's KCNA news agency confirmed Pyongyang had agreed to a moratorium on nuclear tests, long-range missile launches and enrichment of uranium at its Yongbyon nuclear facility.
The North would also allow inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency to monitor the moratorium on enrichment, the news agency said.
It said North Korea had made the decisions in response to a U.S. request and "with a view to maintaining positive atmosphere" for what it described as high-level North Korean U.S. talks.




Note the highlighted above, people, and compare to Conk saber-rattling of years past. President Obama is working to create a worldwide environment of peace based on dialogue, one that will ultimately be successful.

FIFY

Cap'n Cat wrote:And, what is wrong with that, Hen? Is that not something America does? Are we not proud of that tradition of humanitarian aid? Is it the "yellow" skin of the recipients that bothers you?

Cap'n Cat wrote:

89Hen wrote: FIFY

And, what is wrong with that, Hen? Is that not something America does? Are we not proud of that tradition of humanitarian aid? Is it the "yellow" skin of the recipients that bothers you?

89Hen wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:And, what is wrong with that, Hen? Is that not something America does? Are we not proud of that tradition of humanitarian aid? Is it the "yellow" skin of the recipients that bothers you?

You missed the point. They stopped because they wanted/needed something, not because they decided to be nice.

Ivytalk wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:

And, what is wrong with that, Hen? Is that not something America does? Are we not proud of that tradition of humanitarian aid? Is it the "yellow" skin of the recipients that bothers you?

No, Kim Il Cat, it's not. It's the breathtaking stupidity of those who, like Obama and you, think that "bilateral talks" with the NorKors will achieve anything but a Mighty Wind.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: No, Kim Il Cat, it's not. It's the breathtaking stupidity of those who, like Obama and you, think that "bilateral talks" with the NorKors will achieve anything but a Mighty Wind.

You're absolutely right, IT. With attitudes like that, I cannot help but agree with you.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

89Hen wrote: You missed the point. They stopped because they wanted/needed something, not because they decided to be nice.

No, I think you're missing my point, though yours has validity.

But, so what? Getting food to oppressed peoples is as American as apple pie and I, for one, don't care under what auspices it's carried out. Actually, the whole thing is rather Catholic-y, isn't it, feeding the poor and all that?

Cap'n Cat wrote:US says North Korea agrees to nuclear moratorium

By msnbc.com news services
The United States said on Wednesday that North Korea had agreed to implement a moratorium on nuclear tests, long-range missile launches and nuclear activities including enrichment at its Yongbyon nuclear complex and to allow U.N. nuclear watchdog inspectors in to ensure compliance.
The State Department said that the United States in return had agreed to finalize details of a proposed food aid package and to take other steps to improve bilateral ties.
"The United States still has profound concerns regarding North Korean behavior across a wide range of areas, but today's announcement reflects important, if limited, progress in addressing some of these," a State Department statement said.



Separately, the North's KCNA news agency confirmed Pyongyang had agreed to a moratorium on nuclear tests, long-range missile launches and enrichment of uranium at its Yongbyon nuclear facility.
The North would also allow inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency to monitor the moratorium on enrichment, the news agency said.
It said North Korea had made the decisions in response to a U.S. request and "with a view to maintaining positive atmosphere" for what it described as high-level North Korean U.S. talks.




Note the highlighted above, people, and compare to Conk saber-rattling of years past. President Obama is working to create a worldwide environment of peace based on dialogue, one that will ultimately be successful.



How long until Pyongyang has its first McDonalds??



"So that's two Chicken Il Sungs, one Komrade Obama Peace Patty, three Missile fries and four Revolutionary Heaven Shakes, collect?"


GoBama!!!!!

89Hen wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:

No, I think you're missing my point, though yours has validity.

But, so what? Getting food to oppressed peoples is as American as apple pie and I, for one, don't care under what auspices it's carried out. Actually, the whole thing is rather Catholic-y, isn't it, feeding the poor and all that?

I have no problem with the aid. Were saying that the last administration wouldn't have given the aid?

Bronco wrote:-

I thought this was telling that our best friend in the Mid East think Obummer would tell Pakistan

I don't blame them...I don't trust him either

AP source: Israel won't warn US before Iran strike (Israel doesn't trust Obama)
google ^ | 2/27/2012 | KIMBERLY DOZIER, AP

Israeli officials say they won't warn the U.S. if they decide to launch a pre-emptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities, according to one U.S. intelligence official familiar with the discussions. The pronouncement, delivered in a series of private, top-level conversations, sets a tense tone ahead of meetings in the coming days at the White House and Capitol Hill.

Israeli officials said that if they eventually decide a strike is necessary, they would keep the Americans in the dark to decrease the likelihood that the U.S. would be held responsible for failing to stop Israel's potential attack. The U.S. has been working with the Israelis for months to persuade them that an attack would be only a temporary setback to Iran's nuclear program.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak delivered the message to a series of top-level U.S. visitors to the country, including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the White House national security adviser and the director of national intelligence, and top U.S. lawmakers, all trying to close the trust gap between Israel and the U.S. over how to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions.

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Ivytalk wrote:And you actually believe the NorKors! Poor, deluded Donk!

SeattleGriz wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:And you actually believe the NorKors! Poor, deluded Donk!

Exactly, this is very reminiscent of Clinton and Halfbright. NoKo will take the food and double nuclear capacity.

CID1990 wrote:It's like deja vu all over again...

Inlcuding that a US President is being given credit for it (albeit by a donk board troll)..

Obama is being played like a violin just like all the guys who came before him.

houndawg wrote:

CID1990 wrote:It's like deja vu all over again...

Inlcuding that a US President is being given credit for it (albeit by a donk board troll)..

Obama is being played like a violin just like all the guys who came before him.

You can tell he's being played by the enormous jump in their standard of living.

CID1990 wrote:

houndawg wrote:
You can tell he's being played by the enormous jump in their standard of living.

Enormous jump in whose standard of living?

You don't have to resort to just making things up to have an opinion, HD.

houndawg wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Enormous jump in whose standard of living?

You don't have to resort to just making things up to have an opinion, HD.

Why those clever North Koreans of course.

These people don't even wear shoes and you're whimpering about how we're getting played? Your bleating would be better spent warning us about the Pakistanis. That's where the highest probability of a military nuclear incident resides.

CID1990 wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Why those clever North Koreans of course.

These people don't even wear shoes and you're whimpering about how we're getting played? Your bleating would be better spent warning us about the Pakistanis. That's where the highest probability of a military nuclear incident resides.

In case you've been asleep for the last 20 years-

It isn't the shoeless stunted population of the DRK we are dealing with. This is an issue of proliferation, not potential DRK aggression.

The DRK has been exporting its nuke tech to a lot of countries, including Iran. It is also interesting that you mention Pakistan, because that country has had a very special relationship with North Korea over ballistic missile and nuke weapons development.

We ARE getting played. every few years North Korea starts to beat the drums, and every time a new administration kowtows to them and offers food aid for a nuclear moratorium; food aid which NEVER goes to the DRK general population... it goes straight to the military and the political toadies of the Kim regime.

The reason we do this at all is because people understand intrinsically that North Korea sells its weapons technologies to anyone willing to pay for it, and in recent years that has been Syria, Iran, Pakistan and others.

And.. Obama IS being played, just like every President before him since the DRK has been a nuclear threat. If you think different, then how much money are you willing to put on North Korea honoring this latest "moratorium"?