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Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Carter
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:01 am
by BDKJMU
Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Carter
It's February, nine months before a presidential election, and only 22 percent of Americans say they are satisfied with the way things are going. Voters haven't been this unhappy with the country since George H.W. Bush's presidency, when only 21 percent of Americans reported being happy with the country's direction. And before that, the lowest approval rating was 19 percent during Jimmy Carter's first term.
What do the two presidencies have in common? Neither of them won re-election. And, if the trends holds true, Obama looks to be in an equally precarious situation.
The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research released its 2012 campaign outlook, and it's clear Obama's sitting in the same position George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter were in during the February before their election losses—voters don't feel good about the country.
Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush—presidents who won re-election—all had at least 41 percent of voters optimistic with the state of the union.
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Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:01 am
by BDKJMU
Bad news for Berry

Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:06 am
by SuperHornet
Cue Cap'n with a "GOBAMA" skewed logic apologetic in 3...2...1...
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:15 am
by citdog
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:09 am
by kalm
1) He still gets a pass for inheriting more of a mess than either Carter or Bush
2) There is not a Reagan or a Clinton running against him. (This is why a stronger candidate needs to be recruited into the republican primary)
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:38 am
by Skjellyfetti
BDKJMU wrote:Bad news for Berry

You wish. Have you seen the fucking field the Republicans have managed to put together?
And, this isn't just an indictment on the Presidency. Let's take a look at approval ratings.
Republicans in Congress:
22%
http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Democrats in Congress:
31%
http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
President Barack Obama:
48.6%
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -1044.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Granted, Presidential approval ratings are almost always higher than Congress's... but, there's a fairly significant (and growing) gap between R's and D's in Congress. Adding the Presidential approval rating just rubs things in.

Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:06 am
by Cap'n Cat
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:09 am
by D1B
BDKJMU wrote:Bad news for Berry


Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:15 am
by UNI88
kalm wrote:1) He still gets a pass for inheriting more of a mess than either Carter or Bush
2) There is not a Reagan or a Clinton running against him. (This is why a stronger candidate needs to be recruited into the republican primary)
I'm not sure if #1 will hold a lot of weight by the election but #2 is a definite problem. The Reps might be better off if they could find a way to come out of their convention with a new candidate as the party's nominee. The problem would be that said candidate would not have been vetted by the party faithful and it would reek of a smoke-filled, backroom deal. It could really alienate the tea party supporters but could present a candidate more appealing to swing voters.
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:30 am
by Ivytalk
I do have Carter on my 2012 Death Poll. I'll bet "Poppy" Bush outlives him.

Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:03 am
by AZGrizFan
UNI88 wrote:kalm wrote:1) He still gets a pass for inheriting more of a mess than either Carter or Bush
2) There is not a Reagan or a Clinton running against him. (This is why a stronger candidate needs to be recruited into the republican primary)
I'm not sure if #1 will hold a lot of weight by the election but #2 is a definite problem. The Reps might be better off if they could find a way to come out of their convention with a new candidate as the party's nominee. The problem would be that said candidate would not have been vetted by the party faithful and it would reek of a smoke-filled, backroom deal. It could really alienate the tea party supporters but could present a candidate more appealing to swing voters.
AZGrizFan approves of this post 100%.

Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:42 am
by Cap'n Cat
AZGrizFan wrote:UNI88 wrote:
I'm not sure if #1 will hold a lot of weight by the election but #2 is a definite problem. The Reps might be better off if they could find a way to come out of their convention with a new candidate as the party's nominee. The problem would be that said candidate would not have been vetted by the party faithful and it would reek of a smoke-filled, backroom deal. It could really alienate the tea party supporters but could present a candidate more appealing to swing voters.
AZGrizFan approves of this post 100% and the fact that Conks are fucked for decades.

FIFY
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:27 am
by Wedgebuster
Looking forward to that big AZGrizfaux coming out party right here on these threads;
"Well I'm throwing in with ( insert Romney, Insanitoriam, Newt, McSame, Palin,etc) a
ll out, yep all out here, one for all!! We'll take the country by storm, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeyeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:30 am
by mainejeff
Ivytalk wrote:I do have Carter on my 2012 Death Poll. I'll bet "Poppy" Bush outlives him.

Not a chance. Carter is from the South......think Strom Thurmond.

Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:04 am
by CitadelGrad
mainejeff wrote:Ivytalk wrote:I do have Carter on my 2012 Death Poll. I'll bet "Poppy" Bush outlives him.

Not a chance. Carter is from the South......think Strom Thurmond.

Houston, TX is south of Plains, GA.
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:47 pm
by AZGrizFan
Wedgebuster wrote:Looking forward to that big AZGrizfaux coming out party right here on these threads;
"Well I'm throwing in with ( insert Romney, Insanitoriam, Newt, McSame, Palin,etc) a
ll out, yep all out here, one for all!! We'll take the country by storm, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeyeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

Nope. Looking like Ron Paul for me.

Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:07 pm
by Seahawks08
Nope. Looking like Ron Paul for me.

Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:26 pm
by kalm
AZGrizFan wrote:Wedgebuster wrote:Looking forward to that big AZGrizfaux coming out party right here on these threads;
"Well I'm throwing in with ( insert Romney, Insanitoriam, Newt, McSame, Palin,etc) a
ll out, yep all out here, one for all!! We'll take the country by storm, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeyeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

Nope. Looking like Ron Paul for me.

So how does it feel to be supporting the same guy as the Kalmunist?
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:09 pm
by mainejeff
CitadelGrad wrote:mainejeff wrote:
Not a chance. Carter is from the South......think Strom Thurmond.

Houston, TX is south of Plains, GA.
Sorry.......Bush Sr. is a Yankee.
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:59 am
by bobbythekidd
AZGrizFan wrote:Nope. Looking like Ron Paul for me.

Took you long enough.
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:27 am
by blueballs
kalm wrote:1) He still gets a pass for inheriting more of a mess than either Carter or Bush
2) There is not a Reagan or a Clinton running against him. (This is why a stronger candidate needs to be recruited into the republican primary)
true dat kalm...
I'd like to know the demographic breakdown of the 22%.
Gallup called me the other day but I was busy with a customer and couldn't answer the call (I know because I called back)... I wonder how many productive people are called for these polls but are too busy to answer, thus skewing the results as the less busy or moochers answer these calls.
But on another note how could anybody be satisfied with our country and our government right now? Our federal (and many state) government is a train wreck and the demographic/societal trend away from a nuclear family based society and toward a multi-cultural society is eating the country away from within.
Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:38 am
by kalm
blueballs wrote:kalm wrote:1) He still gets a pass for inheriting more of a mess than either Carter or Bush
2) There is not a Reagan or a Clinton running against him. (This is why a stronger candidate needs to be recruited into the republican primary)
true dat kalm...
I'd like to know the demographic breakdown of the 22%.
Gallup called me the other day but I was busy with a customer and couldn't answer the call (I know because I called back)... I wonder how many productive people are called for these polls but are too busy to answer, thus skewing the results as the less busy or moochers answer these calls.
But on another note how could anybody be satisfied with our country and our government right now? Our federal (and many state) government is a train wreck and the demographic/societal trend away from a
nuclear family based society and toward a multi-cultural society is eating the country away from within.

Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:39 am
by Cap'n Cat
blueballs wrote:kalm wrote:1) He still gets a pass for inheriting more of a mess than either Carter or Bush
2) There is not a Reagan or a Clinton running against him. (This is why a stronger candidate needs to be recruited into the republican primary)
true dat kalm...
I'd like to know the demographic breakdown of the 22%.
Gallup called me the other day but I was busy with a customer and couldn't answer the call (I know because I called back)... I wonder how many productive people are called for these polls but are too busy to answer, thus skewing the results as the less busy or moochers answer these calls.
But on another note how could anybody be satisfied with our country and our government right now
? Our federal (and many state) government is a train wreck and the demographic/societal trend away from a nuclear family based society and toward a multi-cultural society is eating the country away from within.
Oh, Come on, P.
People like you make it out like we're fvcking Liberia or some godforsaken shithole like that. It still works here and always will. Man, you guys gotta lay off the Klan/Hannity/Limbaugh/Beck/Santorum/Levin shit.......
Jesus Christ

Re: Americans' Satisfaction Almost as Low as It Was Under Ca
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:35 pm
by Skjellyfetti
blueballs wrote:the demographic/societal trend away from a nuclear family based society and toward a multi-cultural society is eating the country away from within.
Not sure if I should take this seriously or not. You sound like catamountman.
