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Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:27 pm
by Skjellyfetti
President Obama leads each Republican contender in swing states. That’s according to a Fox News Swing State Poll that also suggests a significant shift in the battleground landscape.

The new poll, released Wednesday, shows Obama leads Mitt Romney, Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich in swing-state matchups by about the same margin as he does nationally.

The registered-voter poll was conducted across 10 states where Obama had small margins of victory in 2008 and are considered decisive in the upcoming presidential election.

These swing states fall into three regional tiers. The Rocky Mountain tier includes Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico. The Rust Belt tier includes Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And the Dixie tier includes North Carolina, Florida and Virginia.

Across these states, Santorum performs about as well as Romney in matchups with the president.

The swing-state voters back Obama over Romney by 8 percentage points and Santorum by 9 points.

Obama tops Paul by 12 points in the poll. Gingrich lags farthest behind Obama, as voters in these key states prefer the president to the former Speaker by 20 points. In the most recent Fox News national poll -- released Friday -- registered voters give Obama a 13-point edge over Gingrich.

Overall, swing-state voters look much like the national electorate, as both give Obama mixed reviews on his job performance, are dissatisfied with the direction of the country, and remain pessimistic about the nation’s economy.

However, there are significant variations by region.

Voters in the Dixie tier are generally more upbeat than voters in the other tiers and nationally. These Southern-state voters are more likely to approve of Obama’s job performance, be satisfied with the way things are going in the country, and think the economy has started to improve.

That translates into more support for the president at the ballot box. Obama currently holds a 14-point lead over Romney in the Dixie states, and an 18-point edge over Santorum.
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Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:40 pm
by mainejeff
Fox News........pfft. Bunch of liberals.

:coffee:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:36 pm
by Bronco
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Desperate for jobs, youth flee Obama
The Washington Examiner ^

America’s youth vote, which turned out in record numbers in 2008 and gave a historically high percentage of their support to President Obama, has soured on him because they are having a hard time finding work and, as a result, are putting off major decisions like getting married and starting a family

Obama, who won 66 percent of the 24 million voters age 18-29 in 2008, has seen that support slashed. And in a new poll from Generation Opportunity, a nonprofit that seeks to engage younger voters, only 31 percent approve of Obama’s handling of youth unemployment, a number that threatens to rob him of the voter group that pushed him to victory.

“Ironically for President Obama,” said the group’s president, Paul Conway, “the hardcore reality is that young voters are now very dissatisfied with the direction of the country and are becoming more vocal in their demands for real jobs rather than promises of more unpaid internships and unproven programs.”

And, he added, their anger coupled with their social media savvy could be a threat to Obama. “These vocal young voters are even more digitally connected--and politically potent--for 2012 than they were in 2008,” Conway told Washington Secrets.

But it’s not just Obama that the millennials are upset with. Some 56 percent believe the leadership is wrong in Washington, 69 percent say political leaders do not reflect their interests, 54 percent say the country is on the wrong track and three quarters want federal spending cut.

(Excerpt) Read more at campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com ...

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:39 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Winning swing states > youth vote


And, Obama will win the youth vote, anyway. Unless... maybe... Ron Paul is the Republican nominee. :lol:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:46 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:Winning swing states > youth vote


And, Obama will win the youth vote, anyway. Unless... maybe... Ron Paul is the Republican nominee. :lol:
It's only February. :coffee:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:46 pm
by mainejeff
Bronco wrote:-

Desperate for jobs, youth flee Obama
The Washington Examiner ^

America’s youth vote, which turned out in record numbers in 2008 and gave a historically high percentage of their support to President Obama, has soured on him because they are having a hard time finding work and, as a result, are putting off major decisions like getting married and starting a family

Obama, who won 66 percent of the 24 million voters age 18-29 in 2008, has seen that support slashed. And in a new poll from Generation Opportunity, a nonprofit that seeks to engage younger voters, only 31 percent approve of Obama’s handling of youth unemployment, a number that threatens to rob him of the voter group that pushed him to victory.

“Ironically for President Obama,” said the group’s president, Paul Conway, “the hardcore reality is that young voters are now very dissatisfied with the direction of the country and are becoming more vocal in their demands for real jobs rather than promises of more unpaid internships and unproven programs.”

And, he added, their anger coupled with their social media savvy could be a threat to Obama. “These vocal young voters are even more digitally connected--and politically potent--for 2012 than they were in 2008,” Conway told Washington Secrets.

But it’s not just Obama that the millennials are upset with. Some 56 percent believe the leadership is wrong in Washington, 69 percent say political leaders do not reflect their interests, 54 percent say the country is on the wrong track and three quarters want federal spending cut.

(Excerpt) Read more at campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com ...
Yeah.......they'll head to the polls in droves for Mitt, Newt or Rick.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:50 pm
by Skjellyfetti
AZGrizFan wrote:
It's only February. :coffee:
Care to make a wager, ole man? :ugeek:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:12 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
It's only February. :coffee:
Care to make a wager, ole man? :ugeek:
With this group of misfits we have left? No thanks. :tothehand:

But a lot can (and probably WILL) happen in the next 10 months. It's a lifetime in political circles. :coffee:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:14 pm
by AZGrizFan
mainejeff wrote: Yeah.......they'll head to the polls in droves for Mitt, Newt or Rick.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
just as good if they DON'T head to the polls for Obama. :nod: :nod: :nod:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:16 pm
by grizzaholic
AZGrizFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Care to make a wager, ole man? :ugeek:
With this group of misfits we have left? No thanks. :tothehand:

But a lot can (and probably WILL) happen in the next 10 months. It's a lifetime in political circles. :coffee:
Ron Paul. :thumb:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:51 pm
by BDKJMU
These polls are very volatile. Look at the recent USA Today/Gallup swing state poll- they have Romney leading Obama 48-47 in the swing states.

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:20 pm
by Bronco
Reagan...Carter was said to be a toss up right up to election day

The youngsters right now have a large bill from the Dem spending spree they’ll have to pay off over their lifetime.
Do they want to double or triple that bill?
Wonder if they realize this…probably not.

I don’t blame them for being suckered the 1st time… but really no excuse if they vote for him again.

BHO has offered what seemed cheap at the time student loans that will be coming due soon and without a good job or any job how will they pay it back? Parents that co-signed will also be very happy
Bummer they can’t be discharged by bankruptcy
Maybe the wealthy can be taxed to pay them off

Lot of learning between now and election day

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:33 pm
by AZGrizFan
Bronco wrote:Reagan...Carter was said to be a toss up right up to election day

The youngsters right now have a large bill from the Dem spending spree they’ll have to pay off over their lifetime.
Do they want to double or triple that bill?
Wonder if they realize this…probably not.

I don’t blame them for being suckered the 1st time… but really no excuse if they vote for him again.

BHO has offered what seemed cheap at the time student loans that will be coming due soon and without a good job or any job how will they pay it back? Parents that co-signed will also be very happy
Bummer they can’t be discharged by bankruptcy
Maybe the wealthy can be taxed to pay them off

Lot of learning between now and election day
Ain't gonna happen, I'm afraid. The tipping point has been reached.

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:34 pm
by FargoBison
I believe in 2008 at this time McCain was leading Obama in PA, Florida and Ohio.

That said if the Republican nominate that nutcase Santorum it won't matter, Obama will destroy him in any swing state not named Missouri.

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:24 am
by Cap'n Cat
Bronco wrote:-

Desperate for jobs, youth flee Obama
The Washington Examiner ^

America’s youth vote, which turned out in record numbers in 2008 and gave a historically high percentage of their support to President Obama, has soured on him because they are having a hard time finding work and, as a result, are putting off major decisions like getting married and starting a family

Obama, who won 66 percent of the 24 million voters age 18-29 in 2008, has seen that support slashed. And in a new poll from Generation Opportunity, a nonprofit that seeks to engage younger voters, only 31 percent approve of Obama’s handling of youth unemployment, a number that threatens to rob him of the voter group that pushed him to victory.

“Ironically for President Obama,” said the group’s president, Paul Conway, “the hardcore reality is that young voters are now very dissatisfied with the direction of the country and are becoming more vocal in their demands for real jobs rather than promises of more unpaid internships and unproven programs.”

And, he added, their anger coupled with their social media savvy could be a threat to Obama. “These vocal young voters are even more digitally connected--and politically potent--for 2012 than they were in 2008,” Conway told Washington Secrets.

But it’s not just Obama that the millennials are upset with. Some 56 percent believe the leadership is wrong in Washington, 69 percent say political leaders do not reflect their interests, 54 percent say the country is on the wrong track and three quarters want federal spending cut.

(Excerpt) Read more at campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com ...

Washington Examiner, another Conk crying towel.

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:ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:45 am
by Ivytalk
AZGrizFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Care to make a wager, ole man? :ugeek:
With this group of misfits we have left? No thanks. :tothehand:

But a lot can (and probably WILL) happen in the next 10 months. It's a lifetime in political circles. :coffee:
This. But Obama is a cold, calculating, ruthless graduate of the Al Davis/Saul Alinsky School of Politics who will do anything to win. The American electorate basically votes its pocketbooks. If employment and macroeconomic trends are up, he will win. If those trends tank far enough in advance for the sheeple to notice, he may yet lose. Since 1952, the major parties have basically traded 8-year Presidencies, except for the 12-year Republican run from 1980 to 1992 and the Carter window of 1976-80.

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:05 am
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
With this group of misfits we have left? No thanks. :tothehand:

But a lot can (and probably WILL) happen in the next 10 months. It's a lifetime in political circles. :coffee:
This. But Obama is a cold, calculating, ruthless graduate of the Al Davis/Saul Alinsky School of Politics who will do anything to win. The American electorate basically votes its pocketbooks. If employment and macroeconomic trends are up, he will win. If those trends tank far enough in advance for the sheeple to notice, he may yet lose. Since 1952, the major parties have basically traded 8-year Presidencies, except for the 12-year Republican run from 1980 to 1992 and the Carter window of 1976-80.
Bill Maher: "Who the Fuck is Saul Alinksy?"
"Ya know, Republicans have created this completely fictional President. His name is Barack X and he's an Islamo-Socialist revolutionary who's coming for your guns, raising your taxes, slashing the military, apologizing to other countries and taking his cues from Europe --- or worse yet, Saul Alinksy!
And this is how politics has changed. You used to have to run against an actual candidate. But now, you just recreate him inside the bubble and run against your new fictional candidate. That's how Bush won in 2004: By running against John Kerry --- a French war criminal.

And speaking of Bush, I know conservatives are saying, "Oh, Bill, come on, Democrats did the same thing to him!" No. Say what you will about the Left's hatred of Bush, at least we were hating on the real guy.

We didn't invent a bogey-man who tanked the economy, took us to war on false pretenses and tortured prisoners. That was the actual guy!

But run down the list of complaints about Fantasy Obama: He wants to raise your taxes, even though he's lowered them; confiscate your guns, even though he's never mentioned it; and read terrorists their rights --- yeah, like he did Tuesday in Somalia...
...
You see the difference is, the Republicans hatred of Obama is based on a paranoid feeling about what he might do, what he's thinking, what he secretly wants to change. Anger with Bush was based on what he actually did. What Bush was thinking didn't matter, because he wasn't."
:rofl:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:21 am
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
This. But Obama is a cold, calculating, ruthless graduate of the Al Davis/Saul Alinsky School of Politics who will do anything to win. The American electorate basically votes its pocketbooks. If employment and macroeconomic trends are up, he will win. If those trends tank far enough in advance for the sheeple to notice, he may yet lose. Since 1952, the major parties have basically traded 8-year Presidencies, except for the 12-year Republican run from 1980 to 1992 and the Carter window of 1976-80.
Bill Maher: "Who the **** is Saul Alinksy?"
"Ya know, Republicans have created this completely fictional President. His name is Barack X and he's an Islamo-Socialist revolutionary who's coming for your guns, raising your taxes, slashing the military, apologizing to other countries and taking his cues from Europe --- or worse yet, Saul Alinksy!
And this is how politics has changed. You used to have to run against an actual candidate. But now, you just recreate him inside the bubble and run against your new fictional candidate. That's how Bush won in 2004: By running against John Kerry --- a French war criminal.

And speaking of Bush, I know conservatives are saying, "Oh, Bill, come on, Democrats did the same thing to him!" No. Say what you will about the Left's hatred of Bush, at least we were hating on the real guy.

We didn't invent a bogey-man who tanked the economy, took us to war on false pretenses and tortured prisoners. That was the actual guy!

But run down the list of complaints about Fantasy Obama: He wants to raise your taxes, even though he's lowered them; confiscate your guns, even though he's never mentioned it; and read terrorists their rights --- yeah, like he did Tuesday in Somalia...
...
You see the difference is, the Republicans hatred of Obama is based on a paranoid feeling about what he might do, what he's thinking, what he secretly wants to change. Anger with Bush was based on what he actually did. What Bush was thinking didn't matter, because he wasn't."
:rofl:
Maher is so astoundingly stupid that he didn't even get Alinsky's name right. And don't tell me that Barry isn't the Apostle of Saul.

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:44 am
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
This. But Obama is a cold, calculating, ruthless graduate of the Al Davis/Saul Alinsky School of Politics who will do anything to win. The American electorate basically votes its pocketbooks. If employment and macroeconomic trends are up, he will win. If those trends tank far enough in advance for the sheeple to notice, he may yet lose. Since 1952, the major parties have basically traded 8-year Presidencies, except for the 12-year Republican run from 1980 to 1992 and the Carter window of 1976-80.
Bill Maher: "Who the Fuck is Saul Alinksy?"
"Ya know, Republicans have created this completely fictional President. His name is Barack X and he's an Islamo-Socialist revolutionary who's coming for your guns, raising your taxes, slashing the military, apologizing to other countries and taking his cues from Europe --- or worse yet, Saul Alinksy!
And this is how politics has changed. You used to have to run against an actual candidate. But now, you just recreate him inside the bubble and run against your new fictional candidate. That's how Bush won in 2004: By running against John Kerry --- a French war criminal.

And speaking of Bush, I know conservatives are saying, "Oh, Bill, come on, Democrats did the same thing to him!" No. Say what you will about the Left's hatred of Bush, at least we were hating on the real guy.

We didn't invent a bogey-man who tanked the economy, took us to war on false pretenses and tortured prisoners. That was the actual guy!

But run down the list of complaints about Fantasy Obama: He wants to raise your taxes, even though he's lowered them; confiscate your guns, even though he's never mentioned it; and read terrorists their rights --- yeah, like he did Tuesday in Somalia...
...
You see the difference is, the Republicans hatred of Obama is based on a paranoid feeling about what he might do, what he's thinking, what he secretly wants to change. Anger with Bush was based on what he actually did. What Bush was thinking didn't matter, because he wasn't."
:rofl:
I saw Maher on Jay Leno the other night. He mgiht want to be careful...if Obama turns too sharply he's gonna break Maher's nose off in his ass. I'm not sure how Maher could even be understood with Obama's cock in his mouth the entire interview. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

we don't have to hate Obama for what he MIGHT do. He's done more damage to this country in 36 months than Bush II, Clinton, Bush I and Reagan did in 30 years.

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:53 am
by Cap'n Cat
IT and Z,
There is nothing wrong with Obama other than the color of his skin. You can't stand seeing a black man be successful. The first non-controversial president in ages - nothing sticks to him, no matter how hard Conks try. Rove can't do it, Limbaugh's tried, Coulter has given up and has even endorsed that no-mind, Romney. Give it up and find someone to run against him in his third term.

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

:coffee:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:56 am
by Ivytalk
Cap'n Cat wrote:IT and Z,
There is nothing wrong with Obama other than the color of his skin. You can't stand seeing a black man be successful. The first non-controversial president in ages - nothing sticks to him, no matter how hard Conks try. Rove can't do it, Limbaugh's tried, Coulter has given up and has even endorsed that no-mind, Romney. Give it up and find someone to run against him in his third term.

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

:coffee:
Cap'n, there you go with that lame-ass race card again. :roll: If Obama was whiter than your bare ass, I'd still think his policies were wrong.

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:06 pm
by AZGrizFan
Cap'n Cat wrote:IT and Z,
There is nothing wrong with Obama other than the color of his skin. You can't stand seeing a black man be successful. The first non-controversial president in ages - nothing sticks to him, no matter how hard Conks try. Rove can't do it, Limbaugh's tried, Coulter has given up and has even endorsed that no-mind, Romney. Give it up and find someone to run against him in his third term.

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

:coffee:
OK, Bill....Maher. He plays the race card at every opportunity too. :rofl:

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:09 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Which one of you guys posted this on the CS Aryan site?

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Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:10 pm
by kalm
AZGrizFan wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:IT and Z,
There is nothing wrong with Obama other than the color of his skin. You can't stand seeing a black man be successful. The first non-controversial president in ages - nothing sticks to him, no matter how hard Conks try. Rove can't do it, Limbaugh's tried, Coulter has given up and has even endorsed that no-mind, Romney. Give it up and find someone to run against him in his third term.

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

:coffee:
OK, Bill....Maher. He plays the race card at every opportunity too. :rofl:
Closet Bill Maher fan...

Re: Obama lead widening in swing states:

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:10 pm
by Cap'n Cat
AZGrizFan wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:IT and Z,
There is nothing wrong with Obama other than the color of his skin. You can't stand seeing a black man be successful. The first non-controversial president in ages - nothing sticks to him, no matter how hard Conks try. Rove can't do it, Limbaugh's tried, Coulter has given up and has even endorsed that no-mind, Romney. Give it up and find someone to run against him in his third term.

:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

:coffee:
OK, Bill....Maher. He plays the race card at every opportunity too. :rofl:

And he's right, Z. And a genius. Makes Conks looks like fools so, automatically, you aren't going to dig him.