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Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:48 pm
by Skjellyfetti
There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.
The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.
"Prejudice is extremely complex and multifaceted, making it critical that any factors contributing to bias are uncovered and understood," he said.
Controversy ahead
The findings combine three hot-button topics.
"They've pulled off the trifecta of controversial topics," said Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia who was not involved in the study. "When one selects intelligence, political ideology and racism and looks at any of the relationships between those three variables, it's bound to upset somebody."
Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience. [7 Thoughts That Are Bad For You]
"The unique contribution here is trying to make some progress on the most challenging aspect of this," Nosek said, referring to the new study. "It's not that a relationship like that exists, but why it exists."
Brains and bias
Earlier studies have found links between low levels of education and higher levels of prejudice, Hodson said, so studying intelligence seemed a logical next step. The researchers turned to two studies of citizens in the United Kingdom, one that has followed babies since their births in March 1958, and another that did the same for babies born in April 1970. The children in the studies had their intelligence assessed at age 10 or 11; as adults ages 30 or 33, their levels of social conservatism and racism were measured. [Life's Extremes: Democrat vs. Republican]
In the first study, verbal and nonverbal intelligence was measured using tests that asked people to find similarities and differences between words, shapes and symbols. The second study measured cognitive abilities in four ways, including number recall, shape-drawing tasks, defining words and identifying patterns and similarities among words. Average IQ is set at 100.
Social conservatives were defined as people who agreed with a laundry list of statements such as "Family life suffers if mum is working full-time," and "Schools should teach children to obey authority." Attitudes toward other races were captured by measuring agreement with statements such as "I wouldn't mind working with people from other races." (These questions measured overt prejudiced attitudes, but most people, no matter how egalitarian, do hold unconscious racial biases; Hodson's work can't speak to this "underground" racism.)
As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias.
People with lower cognitive abilities also had less contact with people of other races.
"This finding is consistent with recent research demonstrating that intergroup contact is mentally challenging and cognitively draining, and consistent with findings that contact reduces prejudice," said Hodson, who along with his colleagues published these results online Jan. 5 in the journal Psychological Science.
A study of averages
Hodson was quick to note that the despite the link found between low intelligence and social conservatism, the researchers aren't implying that all liberals are brilliant and all conservatives stupid. The research is a study of averages over large groups, he said.
"There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals," Hodson said.
Nosek gave another example to illustrate the dangers of taking the findings too literally.
"We can say definitively men are taller than women on average," he said. "But you can't say if you take a random man and you take a random woman that the man is going to be taller. There's plenty of overlap."
Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world.
"Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."
In another study, this one in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia. People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays. As in the U.K. citizens, a lack of contact with gays and more acceptance of right-wing authoritarianism explained the link. [5 Myths About Gay People Debunked]
Simple viewpoints
Hodson and Busseri's explanation of their findings is reasonable, Nosek said, but it is correlational. That means the researchers didn't conclusively prove that the low intelligence caused the later prejudice. To do that, you'd have to somehow randomly assign otherwise identical people to be smart or dumb, liberal or conservative. Those sorts of studies obviously aren't possible.
The researchers controlled for factors such as education and socioeconomic status, making their case stronger, Nosek said. But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.
"My speculation is that it's not as simple as their model presents it," Nosek said. "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ... Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."
Prejudice is of particular interest because understanding the roots of racism and bias could help eliminate them, Hodson said. For example, he said, many anti-prejudice programs encourage participants to see things from another group's point of view. That mental exercise may be too taxing for people of low IQ.
"There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners," Hodson said. "Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive. These two pieces of information suggest that it might be particularly fruitful for researchers to consider strategies to change feelings toward outgroups," rather than thoughts.
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:55 pm
by Gil Dobie
For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:04 pm
by Vidav
Gil Dobie wrote:For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.
Stupid extremists.

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:05 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Gil Dobie wrote:For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.
Um, Gil.....Conks, especially nowadays, are far more extreme in their views than loving Progressives.
Just watched a documentary on the Klan and was struck by the people who raise children into that belief system. Thought that raising a kid Conk was damned near as wrong as raising a kid Klan.

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:06 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Naievete is way better than racism.
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:11 pm
by mainejeff
Cap'n Cat wrote:Um, Gil.....Conks, especially nowadays, are far more extreme in their views than loving Progressives.
Just watched a documentary on the Klan and was struck by the people who raise children into that belief system. Thought that raising a kid Conk was damned near as wrong as raising a kid Klan.

It's simply the ONLY way that they can ensure their future numbers.

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:46 pm
by JohnStOnge
So if lower IQ predicts prejudice and "conservatism", may we conclude that Blacks, on average, are more "conservative" and "prejudiced" than Whites? After all, Blacks score about 1 standard deviation lower, on average, on IQ tests than Whites do. That's a substantial difference. It means that the average IQ of Blacks is lower than the IQs of about 84 percent of Whites.
I'll go ahead and look at this. But I suspect I'm going to find that it's a crock in line with other studies I've looked at that basically are designed to "show" that, if only you are "enlightened" and intelligent, you are likely to be "liberal" in your outlooks.
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:57 pm
by JohnStOnge
In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.
I think that is a ridiculous statement. History is full of examples of instances in which positions that were extremist in their time were eventually deemed to be correct and/or adopted as mainstream. It was once estremist to believe the Earth was not the center of the universe. It was once extremist to be opposed to slavery. So on and so forth.
Speaking of stupid: What a stupid statement.
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:36 pm
by Gil Dobie
Cap'n Cat wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
Um, Gil.....Conks, especially nowadays, are far more extreme in their views than loving Progressives.
Just watched a documentary on the Klan and was struck by the people who raise children into that belief system. Thought that raising a kid Conk was damned near as wrong as raising a kid Klan.

That's the same Klan started by the Donks, the anti-Lincoln party

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:41 pm
by Gil Dobie
Cap'n Cat wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
Um, Gil.....Conks, especially nowadays, are far more extreme in their views than loving Progressives.
Just watched a documentary on the Klan and was struck by the people who raise children into that belief system. Thought that raising a kid Conk was damned near as wrong as raising a kid Klan.


Another progressive loving post brought to you by Cap'n Cat.
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:42 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Gil Dobie wrote:Cap'n Cat wrote:
Um, Gil.....Conks, especially nowadays, are far more extreme in their views than loving Progressives.
Just watched a documentary on the Klan and was struck by the people who raise children into that belief system. Thought that raising a kid Conk was damned near as wrong as raising a kid Klan.

That's the same Klan started by the Donks, the anti-Lincoln party

Started by, in ancient, unenlightened times, then killed by the same party.....later lovingly embraced by Conkunists like Reagan, Duke, Nixon, Bush, Atwater, Wallace, Tman, Z, Alphagriz, SeattleGriz, CID1990, citdog, Rove, Limbaugh, McVeigh, Cheney and Coulter.

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:46 pm
by Gil Dobie
Cap'n Cat wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:
That's the same Klan started by the Donks, the anti-Lincoln party

Started by, in ancient, unenlightened times, then killed by the same party.....later lovingly embraced by Conkunists like Reagan, Duke, Nixon, Bush, Atwater, Wallacce, Rove, Limbaugh, McVeigh, Cheney and Coulter.

You know a lot about so-called conkism for a so-called liberal. I bet you are a closet conk, just like all those religious conks that end up with gay-lovers or cheating on their wives with other women. There is treatment for a Rush-a-holoic.

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:51 pm
by Ivytalk
JellyBelly, this may be the stupidest thread you've ever started. And that's saying something.

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:56 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Ivytalk wrote:JellyBelly, this may be the stupidest thread you've ever started. And that's saying something.

That's your opinion, Perry Mason. Regardless, it's highly relevant.

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:04 pm
by Ivytalk
Cap'n Cat wrote:Ivytalk wrote:JellyBelly, this may be the stupidest thread you've ever started. And that's saying something.

That's your opinion, Perry Mason. Regardless, it's highly relevant.

It''s bullshit " science" from some Canuck cow college that nobody ever heard of.
But libs like Jelly and you take it as gospel that conservatives are dumb and libtards are smart. So go put up your Elizabeth Warren poster and wank off to it.
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:11 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Ivytalk wrote:Cap'n Cat wrote:
That's your opinion, Perry Mason. Regardless, it's highly relevant.

It''s bullshit " science" from some Canuck cow college that nobody ever heard of.
But libs like Jelly and you take it as gospel that conservatives are dumb and libtards are smart. So go put up your Elizabeth Warren poster and wank off to it.
Um, Your Highness, smarter people than
you and I put this shit out.
Conks are not dumb, necessarily, they're merely in the throes of arrested social development. The world turns more and more liberal every minute as more and more people chase freedoms of all sorts previously denied them by the likes of regressive Conkunists like you. Say goodbye to it, IT, and join me and D1B and Skelly and dback in the new world order.
This is your only chance,
mon frere'. Take it before you have to sit next to all the blacks.

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:50 pm
by AZGrizFan
Cap'n Cat wrote:Ivytalk wrote:
It''s bullshit " science" from some Canuck cow college that nobody ever heard of.
But libs like Jelly and you take it as gospel that conservatives are dumb and libtards are smart. So go put up your Elizabeth Warren poster and wank off to it.
Um, Your Highness,
smarter people than you and I put this shit out.
Conks are not dumb, necessarily, they're merely in the throes of arrested social development. The world turns more and more liberal every minute as more and more people chase freedoms of all sorts previously denied them by the likes of regressive Conkunists like you. Say goodbye to it, IT, and join me and D1B and Skelly and dback in the new world order.
This is your only chance,
mon frere'. Take it before you have to sit next to all the blacks.

Spoken like a dipshit who's never met Mr. Ivytalk. I know Ivytalk. I've met Ivytalk. I've broken bread with Ivytalk. You, sir, are no Ivytalk.

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:00 pm
by eagleskins
It is humorous that the south is mainly conservative, while having higher level of poverty and lower level of education than their northern brethren.
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:36 am
by Gil Dobie
This thread brought to you by 6.93

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:43 am
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:Cap'n Cat wrote:
Um, Your Highness,
smarter people than you and I put this shit out.
Conks are not dumb, necessarily, they're merely in the throes of arrested social development. The world turns more and more liberal every minute as more and more people chase freedoms of all sorts previously denied them by the likes of regressive Conkunists like you. Say goodbye to it, IT, and join me and D1B and Skelly and dback in the new world order.
This is your only chance,
mon frere'. Take it before you have to sit next to all the blacks.

Spoken like a dipshit who's never met Mr. Ivytalk. I know Ivytalk. I've met Ivytalk. I've broken bread with Ivytalk. You, sir, are no Ivytalk.

Spoken like a dipshit who's never met Mr. Cap'n Cat. ..........
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:50 am
by kalm
eagleskins wrote:It is humorous that the south is mainly conservative, while having higher level of poverty and lower level of education than their northern brethren.
So does the study mention the relationship between southern accents and intelligence?
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:51 am
by Ivytalk
Cap'n Cat wrote:Ivytalk wrote:
It''s bullshit " science" from some Canuck cow college that nobody ever heard of.
But libs like Jelly and you take it as gospel that conservatives are dumb and libtards are smart. So go put up your Elizabeth Warren poster and wank off to it.
Um, Your Highness, smarter people than
you and I put this **** out.
Conks are not dumb, necessarily, they're merely in the throes of arrested social development. The world turns more and more liberal every minute as more and more people chase freedoms of all sorts previously denied them by the likes of regressive Conkunists like you. Say goodbye to it, IT, and join me and D1B and Skelly and dback in the new world order.
This is your only chance,
mon frere'. Take it before you have to sit next to all the blacks.

I knew that Elizabeth Warren zing would piss you off!
Hey, Cap, I hear that Pat Schroeder wants your cell number...
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:33 pm
by Pwns
JohnStOnge wrote:So if lower IQ predicts prejudice and "conservatism", may we conclude that Blacks, on average, are more "conservative" and "prejudiced" than Whites? After all, Blacks score about 1 standard deviation lower, on average, on IQ tests than Whites do. That's a substantial difference. It means that the average IQ of Blacks is lower than the IQs of about 84 percent of Whites.
I'll go ahead and look at this. But I suspect I'm going to find that it's a crock in line with other studies I've looked at that basically are designed to "show" that, if only you are "enlightened" and intelligent, you are likely to be "liberal" in your outlooks.
Exactly what I was going to say. Plus, you have the obvious difficulty of assessing "prejudice" in people. For all you know their definition of "prejudice" could be "anyone who doesn't believe income inequality and social problems within certain ethnic groups is 100% the result of racism". Also, you have the obvious social desirability bias in here as well. This study stinks to high heaven of bovine excrement.
Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:35 pm
by 89Hen
Didn't Cat post an article just like this two or three years ago?

Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:46 pm
by D1B
JohnStOnge wrote:So if lower IQ predicts prejudice and "conservatism", may we conclude that Blacks, on average, are more "conservative" and "prejudiced" than Whites? After all, Blacks score about 1 standard deviation lower, on average, on IQ tests than Whites do. That's a substantial difference. It means that the average IQ of Blacks is lower than the IQs of about 84 percent of Whites.
I'll go ahead and look at this. But I suspect I'm going to find that it's a crock in line with other studies I've looked at that basically are designed to "show" that, if only you are "enlightened" and intelligent, you are likely to be "liberal" in your outlooks.
Yeah, you go ahead and look at this, Matlock.
