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Biden to Sec Def Hilary to VP?
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:27 am
by kalm
That's right sports fans, the Obama-Hilary rumor is back, only this time coming from a Clinton insider. Considering the opportunities it would provide for the Democrats it's not that far fetched. I don't know if the world could handle that much "progressiveness".
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Re: Biden to Sec Def Hilary to VP?
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:19 am
by LeadBolt
Aahh! Trial balloon season....
How about swapping Obama and Hillary instead?
Re: Biden to Sec Def Hilary to VP?
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:59 am
by Pwns
I say we just swap Robert Gates and Obama.
Re: Biden to Sec Def Hilary to VP?
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:54 am
by TwinTownBisonFan
This is a Hillary 2016 trial balloon... nothing else.
Look at the people who have been pedaling the rumor... all Clinton folks. There's a reason for this. You've not heard the rumor from anyone near Obama.
Look at the subtle clues, like the fact that a huge amount of the merch in the Obama store says Obama/Biden... it's a small thing, but if they were considering a change seriously, they'd have dropped V-POTUS from everything. (campaigns don't get to have clearance sales... that shit would just be wasted money - and that campaign wouldn't do that)
Re: Biden to Sec Def Hilary to VP?
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:19 am
by kalm
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:This is a Hillary 2016 trial balloon... nothing else.
Look at the people who have been pedaling the rumor... all Clinton folks. There's a reason for this. You've not heard the rumor from anyone near Obama.
Look at the subtle clues, like the fact that a huge amount of the merch in the Obama store says Obama/Biden... it's a small thing, but if they were considering a change seriously, they'd have dropped V-POTUS from everything. (campaigns don't get to have clearance sales... that shit would just be wasted money - and that campaign wouldn't do that)
Fun hater.

Re: Biden to Sec Def Hilary to VP?
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:28 am
by Bronco
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President down grade has to do something...hard to run on his record
and Biden is an idiot

Re: Biden to Sec Def Hilary to VP?
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:48 am
by CID1990
Hillary is done. She is not going to run as #2 to Obama and she is not going to beat an incumbent Romney in 2016 when we are at war with Iran, so hang it up.
Re: Biden to Sec Def Hilary to VP?
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:14 pm
by AZGrizFan
Re: Biden to Sec Def Hilary to VP?
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:31 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
I'm not saying the money is the reason he won't do it...
I'm saying if you look at what the campaign is doing - NOTHING in their behavior indicates that they will be pursuing this strategy... it's idle media speculation, seemingly fueled by folks who want Clinton to run in 2016.
with a Presidential campaign buying millions in chum - that they hope to parlay in to donations - you wouldn't put Biden's name on anything (and it's on everything) if you were ditching him... lest you have a bunch of merch you can't move on your hands. (you may think it's a piffling thing... but running a tight ship, despite the size of the organization is an Obama campaign calling card)
Re: Biden to Sec Def Hilary to VP?
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:25 pm
by AZGrizFan
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
I'm not saying the money is the reason he won't do it...
I'm saying if you look at what the campaign is doing - NOTHING in their behavior indicates that they will be pursuing this strategy... it's idle media speculation, seemingly fueled by folks who want Clinton to run in 2016.
with a Presidential campaign buying millions in chum - that they hope to parlay in to donations - you wouldn't put Biden's name on anything (and it's on everything) if you were ditching him... lest you have a bunch of merch you can't move on your hands. (you may think it's a piffling thing... but running a tight ship, despite the size of the organization is an Obama campaign calling card)
a) I'm sorry but when you say "that shit would just be wasted money and this campaign wouldn't do that", I think a reasonable person would interpret that to mean you're saying "the money is the reason he won't do it"...that aside, however....
b) if running a tight ship, despite the size of the organization, is an Obama calling card WHY in the FUCK doesn't that translate over to the way he runs the country? See my "licence to print money" comment from earlier. Dude spends like a damned drunken sailor....
