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Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:25 pm
by hank scorpio
Alan Boyle writes
A commercial satellite operator says it has captured a rare image of China's first aircraft carrier as it sailed through the Yellow Sea, after going through an exercise that's the 21st-century equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack.
DigitalGlobe said the aircraft carrier showed up on a cloud-filled picture snapped on Dec. 8 by its polar-orbiting QuickBird satellite from a height of 280 miles (450 kilometers). An analyst spotted the ship while checking the image on Tuesday, said Stephen Wood, the director of the company's analysis center.
"There is something that is always indispensable about having people involved," Wood told me. The ship was identified "using a combination of the satellite imagery plus open-source material on the Internet, and geography," he said, but "at the end of the day, it still comes down to a person."
Experts have been hoping for months to get a glimpse of the aircraft carrier at sea. The former Soviet Union started building the ship, originally known as the Varyag, but never finished it. After the Soviet breakup, the Varyag ended up in the hands of the Ukrainian government. The ship was auctioned off to the Chinese in 1998. Since then, the Varyag, which has reportedly been rechristened the Shi Lang, has been under refurbishment for sea service.
"This is a ship and a story that has had legs for many years," Wood said.
DigitalGlobe said this picture was taken during the carrier's second sea trial, approximately 62 miles (100 kilometers) south-southeast of the port of Dalian. Wood said the picture indicates that the ship is "moving at a decent rate of speed, which would be expected in the middle of the ocean." The U.S. military could no doubt glean more information about the Shi Lang's status, from QuickBird's pictures as well as from classified, higher-resolution imagery.
China says the Shi Lang will be used for research and training, and the project is thought to be part of the country's strategy to expand its presence as a naval power. The Chinese military is expected to build more copies of the ship in coming years. In fact, sources told Reuters in July that a second aircraft carrier was under construction.
"China's next moves have to be watched carefully, or there eventually could be a negative impact on maritime safety in Asia," Yoshihiko Yamada, a professor at Japan's Tokai University, told Reuters at the time.
QuickBird's view of the Shi Lang serves as today's offering from the Cosmic Log Space Advent Calendar, which features an image of Earth from space every day from now until Christmas.
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Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:40 pm
by hank scorpio
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:23 pm
by CAA Flagship
I wonder what kind of food they serve on that ship.
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:51 pm
by Wedgebuster
hank scorpio wrote:
That looks like one of my "floaty poopies"
What name of this airclaft crarior?
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:10 pm
by CID1990
If it becomes necessary for that ship to sink, it will do so quickly.
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:20 am
by CitadelGrad
CID1990 wrote:If it becomes necessary for that ship to sink, it will do so quickly.
Unfortunately, the same can be said of our carriers. Those damn things are nothing but missile magnets.
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:56 am
by Gil Dobie
Wedgebuster wrote:
What name of this airclaft crarior?
Crispy Critters
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:07 am
by Ivytalk
Remember The Battle of Midway!

Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:19 am
by CAA Flagship
Ivytalk wrote:Remember The Battle of Midway!

Japan lost 4 carriers that day. A colossal blunder on their part. Code breaking, good planning, and some luck lead the US to victory in the most pivitol battle of the war in the Pacific.
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:23 am
by AZGrizFan
CitadelGrad wrote:CID1990 wrote:If it becomes necessary for that ship to sink, it will do so quickly.
Unfortunately, the same can be said of our carriers. Those damn things are nothing but missile magnets.
Don't talk out your ass, Cit.

Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:48 am
by dbackjon
Wedgebuster wrote:hank scorpio wrote:
That looks like one of my "floaty poopies"
What name of this airclaft crarior?
Actually, it's name does translate to: Floaty poopy
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:38 am
by CID1990
AEGIS has ABM capability and don't think for a second that our carrier battlegroups don't have a VERY capable AEGIS umbrella.
China, on the other hand, doesn't have that. We could pop that jet-less carrier from the BarcoLounger in the White House without a second thought.
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:40 am
by CID1990
Actually, the satellite pics I am eagerly anticipating are the ones of the fireballs that will be coming from the a$$ of that thing the minute the Chinese start trying to actually figure out how to do carrier deck operations.
We have almost 100 years on them in that field. Nobody else comes close, even the Russian weren't truly able to figure it out.
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:06 pm
by native
CID1990 wrote:Actually, the satellite pics I am eagerly anticipating are the ones of the fireballs that will be coming from the a$$ of that thing the minute the Chinese start trying to actually figure out how to do carrier deck operations.
We have almost 100 years on them in that field. Nobody else comes close, even the Russian weren't truly able to figure it out.
Stolen technology in and of itself is insufficient to prevail over operational excellence.
Russians never came close to successful carrier aviation. They didn't figure out naval helicopters, either.
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:11 pm
by BlueHen86
CAA Flagship wrote:Ivytalk wrote:Remember The Battle of Midway!

Japan lost 4 carriers that day. A colossal blunder on their part. Code breaking, good planning,
and some luck lead the US to victory in the most pivitol battle of the war in the Pacific.
One of the lucky things was the contribution of the USS Naulitus. The Nautilus encountered 4 Japanese ships, a battleship, a crusier and 2 destroyers. One of the destroyers played cat and mouse wit the Nautilus for 2 hours, eventually giving up and then making way to the rest of the main Japanese fleet. The destroyer was spotted and tracked by US air craft and led the US planes right to 2 Japanese aircraft carriers (the Soryu and Kaga). The US planes sank both carriers.
If the Japanese destroyer hadn't spent 2 hours trying to sink the Nautilus the US planes might not have found the two carriers.
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:43 pm
by CAA Flagship
BlueHen86 wrote:CAA Flagship wrote:
Japan lost 4 carriers that day. A colossal blunder on their part. Code breaking, good planning, and some luck lead the US to victory in the most pivitol battle of the war in the Pacific.
One of the lucky things was the contribution of the USS Naulitus. The Nautilus encountered 4 Japanese ships, a battleship, a crusier and 2 destroyers. One of the destroyers played cat and mouse wit the Nautilus for 2 hours, eventually giving up and then making way to the rest of the main Japanese fleet. The destroyer was spotted and tracked by US air craft and led the US planes right to 2 Japanese aircraft carriers (the Soryu and Kaga). The US planes sank both carriers.
If the Japanese destroyer hadn't spent 2 hours trying to sink the Nautilus the US planes might not have found the two carriers.
The other stroke of luck was when the Japs sent out their recon planes in a 180 degree fan. The one that was set in the path of our fleet took off late because of mechanical trouble. This allowed us more time to send out another wave of planes.
Once they spotted our fleet, they sent their remaining planes after us and severely crippled the Yorktown among other ships, but that squadron had no place to land after they were done. Their carriers were at the bottom of the ocean by then.
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:58 pm
by houndawg
CAA Flagship wrote:Ivytalk wrote:Remember The Battle of Midway!

Japan lost 4 carriers that day. A colossal blunder on their part.
Code breaking, good planning, and some luck lead the US to victory in the most pivitol battle of the war in the Pacific.
The blunder was not catching that their codes had been broken. That's how we got Admiral Yamamoto too.
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:50 pm
by Cap'n Cat
CID1990 wrote:Actually, the satellite pics I am eagerly anticipating are the ones of the fireballs that will be coming from the a$$ of that thing the minute the Chinese start trying to actually figure out how to do carrier deck operations.
We have almost 100 years on them in that field. Nobody else comes close, even the Russian weren't truly able to figure it out.
Much as it makes me wretch, I gotta agree with Graddy. Passed around from the Russians to the Ukrainians, then to the Chinese like an ugly prom date? Can't imagine what a shithole it looks like inside.....
"No egg drop soup tonight, Komlads. We eat own shit."
Re: Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:10 pm
by mrklean
Will they serve Gen. Tuz's Chicken or Lemon Chicken with Rice??
Satellite spots China's first aircraft carrier at sea
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:14 pm
by Ibanez
mrklean wrote:Will they serve Gen. Tuz's Chicken or Lemon Chicken with Rice??
any relation to Gen. Tsaos?
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