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Col Hogan wrote:Like the wars on "poverty" and "terrorism", the "war on drugs" is nothing more than a P.R. effort by both political parties...and a drain on our economy...

You cannot fight a thing...and the more government money you focus on a nebulous thing, the more corruption you develop by people with an interest in extending that "war"...

JohnStOnge wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/2 ... 2%7C115641

Basically holding that law enforcement has become corrupted and out of whack in terms of its priorities by virtue of the fact that there are financial incentives for pursuing the "Drug War."

"I think that we need to consider taking more explicit steps to make it expensive to be a drug user. It could be through testing before you get any kind of federal aid. Unemployment compensation, food stamps, you name it."

biobengal wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/2 ... 2%7C115641

Basically holding that law enforcement has become corrupted and out of whack in terms of its priorities by virtue of the fact that there are financial incentives for pursuing the "Drug War."

That's a solid article.

Recently, in response to Ron Paul's assertion that the drug war has failed, Gingrich was asked about his solution to this problem. Gingrich's answer to the failed drug war: put your boot on the neck of drug users:

"I think that we need to consider taking more explicit steps to make it expensive to be a drug user. It could be through testing before you get any kind of federal aid. Unemployment compensation, food stamps, you name it."

Small business loans, farm aid, disaster relief, heating assistance, food stamps, early childhood education, student loans, GI Bill, VA health and disability benefits, children's health insurance... that's a lot of testing, we'll soon need a separate cabinet level department.

Grizalltheway wrote:Read this at work today. Spot on, and deeply disturbing. Thanks, Tman and AZ.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:Read this at work today. Spot on, and deeply disturbing. Thanks, Tman and AZ.

So let me get this straight: It's somehow NEWS that Chicago cops are corrupt?

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
So let me get this straight: It's somehow NEWS that Chicago cops are corrupt?

Thanks Tman and AZ for being fucking blockheads.



Left to Right: AZvandalFan, Tman, Col Hogan, Ivy Twit, CID8008, Citdog, DJH, Clenz, HI54UNI, 89Hen, PWNs, AZ's son, St. Wronge's son, All the motherfuckers from the Kidatal, Bronco and the rest of the baboons who goosestep with the fascists who ruined our nation.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:Read this at work today. Spot on, and deeply disturbing. Thanks, Tman and AZ.

So let me get this straight: It's somehow NEWS that Chicago cops are corrupt?

AZGrizFan wrote:

D1B wrote:
Thanks Tman and AZ for being fucking blockheads.



Left to Right: AZvandalFan, Tman, Col Hogan, Ivy Twit, CID8008, Citdog, DJH, Clenz, HI54UNI, 89Hen, PWNs, AZ's son, St. Wronge's son, All the motherfuckers from the Kidatal, Bronco and the rest of the baboons who goosestep with the fascists who ruined our nation.

While you've had your head buried firmly up your ass in recent months, more has been done to "ruin" this nation in the past 30 months than in the past 30 YEARS combined.

Grizalltheway wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
So let me get this straight: It's somehow NEWS that Chicago cops are corrupt?

Yeah. That's exactly the point the article makes.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Yeah. That's exactly the point the article makes.

All their specific evidence is from CHICAGO. The rest are just accusations, BS claims and other unadulterated bullshit. So, we've firmly established Chicago cops are crooked. Stop the fucking presses.

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
All their specific evidence is from CHICAGO. The rest are just accusations, BS claims and other unadulterated bullshit. So, we've firmly established Chicago cops are crooked. Stop the fucking presses.

You're actually saying only Chicago cops are corrupt!? What a fuckin moron.

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: While you've had your head buried firmly up your ass in recent months, more has been done to "ruin" this nation in the past 30 months than in the past 30 YEARS combined.

Sorry Z, but you're fucked in the head. Get some help before you drag others down with you.

AZGrizFan wrote:

D1B wrote:
You're actually saying only Chicago cops are corrupt!? What a fuckin moron.

No, I'm saying that's all this opinion piece has verified. Try and keep up.

If you’re serious about the latter view, then we need to think through a strategy that makes it radically less likely that we’re going to have drugs in this country. Places like Singapore have been the most successful at doing that. They’ve been very draconian. And they have communicated with great intention that they intend to stop drugs from coming into their country.

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
No, I'm saying that's all this opinion piece has verified. Try and keep up.

You're a moron. You need blog writers to provide you your facts?

Get out more, Z. See the world.

AZGrizFan wrote:

D1B wrote:
You're a moron. You need blog writers to provide you your facts?

Get out more, Z. See the world.

I rest my case.

****' "bloggers" that think they're journalists.

biobengal wrote:Newt loves the way Singapore deals with drugs....

According to Amnesty International, about 420 people have been hanged in Singapore since 1991, mostly for drugs offences.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4487366.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Grizalltheway wrote:

biobengal wrote:Newt loves the way Singapore deals with drugs....

According to Amnesty International, about 420 people have been hanged in Singapore since 1991, mostly for drugs offences.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4487366.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Really can't help but chuckle at the irony of that.

Rancher Held Onto Land But Landed In Prison -- Marijuana Operation Was Apparently Seen As Road Out Of Debt
AP
ODESSA, Lincoln County - Folks in Lincoln County knew Bud King as a man who took risks trying to hang onto the family's cattle ranch.

But in an apparent attempt to get out from under heavy debt so he could leave the spread to his sons, King took one risk too many.

Yesterday, the 59-year-old grandfather and second-generation rancher began serving a five-year prison term at Geiger Corrections Center near Spokane for his role in the biggest marijuana-growing operation to come to authorities' attention in state history.

King's arrest during a Sept. 9 raid on the King Brothers Ranch stunned neighbors who knew him as a man with a big stride, a cowboy hat, a can of chewing tobacco and a kerchief hanging out of the back pocket of his jeans.

"Everybody in town was really shocked, and they're still talking about it," said Denny McDaniel, mayor in this community of about 1,000 people. "That kind of thing just doesn't happen here."

Agents seized 6,000 mature marijuana plants in the raid. The high-grade Indigo marijuana hybrid had been grown between rows of corn on the 2,000-acre ranch since 1988, prosecutors said.