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Economic Geography

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:09 am
by kalm
Interesting read about how neither donk nor conk state economic models work very well in the long run. Also shows how the red state model which has been the bees knees of late is really just a race to the bottom.

(Trying to build my independent cred's with Gannon here :mrgreen: )

Your thoughts?
Great Recession
TUESDAY, NOV 22, 2011 4:00 AM PST
The red state model is (also) broken
Liberal enclaves face an economic crisis, but federally subsidized conservative areas are just as unsustainable

The truth is that the red state social model is as broken as the blue state social model. The blue social model requires a swollen FIRE sector as a cash cow to fund government functions, a generous welfare state, and Starbucksy neighborhoods with subsidized mass transit for credentialed hipsters in brick-walled lofts. The red social model also depends on a swollen FIRE sector that can be tapped for subsidies to red state soldiers, agribusiness and megachurches, as well as to red state governments that take advantage of subsidies from blue America to lower their own taxes. Money from the bloated financial sector allows blue states to impose stifling environmental regulations, driving productive industries to the red states, which lure them not only with low environmental standards but also low-wage, non-union labor, supplemented by illegal immigrant workers.

Both the blue economic model and the red economic model are parasitic, not productive. Neither provides a model for a decent American future.

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/22/the_red ... so_broken/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Economic Geography

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:27 pm
by JohnStOnge
I think it's more of a diatribe than a serious effort at analysis but let's go with it. The solution is simple: Get rid of the idea that people should send their money to Washington then have Washington DC redistribute it to the States.

However, a tax deduction is not a subsidy. It's getting to the point where I can just about rely on any progressive who talks about subsidies to include some tax deduction as such.

You are not subsidizing someone by "allowing" them to keep their own money.

Re: Economic Geography

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:04 pm
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:I think it's more of a diatribe than a serious effort at analysis but let's go with it. The solution is simple: Get rid of the idea that people should send their money to Washington then have Washington DC redistribute it to the States.

However, a tax deduction is not a subsidy. It's getting to the point where I can just about rely on any progressive who talks about subsidies to include some tax deduction as such.

You are not subsidizing someone by "allowing" them to keep their own money.
That's 100% true if government and the price for living with a standard of living better than 95% of the people on earth is free. :roll:

Re: Economic Geography

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:57 pm
by death dealer
kalm wrote:
Great Recession
TUESDAY, NOV 22, 2011 4:00 AM PST
The red state model is (also) broken
Liberal enclaves face an economic crisis, but federally subsidized conservative areas are just as unsustainable

Both the blue economic model and the red economic model are parasitic, not productive. Neither provides a model for a decent American future.

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/22/the_red ... so_broken/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And you've been living under which rock?

Since I know this to be untrue, I assume you are trying to make a little sense up in here. When are you going to realize that this is a futile endeavor? :tothehand: :kisswink: