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An oldie but goodie!

"Wankin', fookin' bankers... arseholes..."

What he's calling "the working man" isn't going to pay for it. As is the case with all western societies nowadays, the expectation is that "the rich" will pay for it.

This idea that the "working man," as people like him appear to define it, is carrying the load is nonsense. "The working man" in western civilization nowadays is generally getting a cheap ride while "the rich" are paying most of the freight.

Of course even this "working man" code is nonsense. As though people who make a lot of money never work for it. So if you make some money being a pipefitter that is somehow noble and pure. Never mind that you're a lazy ass who works only as much as you absolutely have to and use the union to make sure you don't do otherwise. But if you're a surgeon who works 110 hours a week and is always on call you're not a "working man."

And of course bankers don't work either.

What a load of crap.

JohnStOnge wrote:What he's calling "the working man" isn't going to pay for it. As is the case with all western societies nowadays, the expectation is that "the rich" will pay for it.

This idea that the "working man," as people like him appear to define it, is carrying the load is nonsense. "The working man" in western civilization nowadays is generally getting a cheap ride while "the rich" are paying most of the freight.

Of course even this "working man" code is nonsense. As though people who make a lot of money never work for it. So if you make some money being a pipefitter that is somehow noble and pure. Never mind that you're a lazy ass who works only as much as you absolutely have to and use the union to make sure you don't do otherwise. But if you're a surgeon who works 110 hours a week and is always on call you're not a "working man."

And of course bankers don't work either.

What a load of crap.

JSO for the buzzkill!

Ivytalk wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:What he's calling "the working man" isn't going to pay for it. As is the case with all western societies nowadays, the expectation is that "the rich" will pay for it.

This idea that the "working man," as people like him appear to define it, is carrying the load is nonsense. "The working man" in western civilization nowadays is generally getting a cheap ride while "the rich" are paying most of the freight.

Of course even this "working man" code is nonsense. As though people who make a lot of money never work for it. So if you make some money being a pipefitter that is somehow noble and pure. Never mind that you're a lazy ass who works only as much as you absolutely have to and use the union to make sure you don't do otherwise. But if you're a surgeon who works 110 hours a week and is always on call you're not a "working man."

And of course bankers don't work either.

What a load of crap.

JSO for the buzzkill!

Did you really expect anything else?

JohnStOnge wrote:What he's calling "the working man" isn't going to pay for it. As is the case with all western societies nowadays, the expectation is that "the rich" will pay for it.

This idea that the "working man," as people like him appear to define it, is carrying the load is nonsense. "The working man" in western civilization nowadays is generally getting a cheap ride while "the rich" are paying most of the freight.

Of course even this "working man" code is nonsense. As though people who make a lot of money never work for it. So if you make some money being a pipefitter that is somehow noble and pure. Never mind that you're a lazy ass who works only as much as you absolutely have to and use the union to make sure you don't do otherwise. But if you're a surgeon who works 110 hours a week and is always on call you're not a "working man."

And of course bankers don't work either.

What a load of crap.

John, every heard of wage inflation and deflation?

kalm wrote:
John, every heard of wage inflation and deflation?

I have. and it's a bullshit concept.

You get out of life what you put into it, generally speaking. You wanna make a half mil a year, then you better not be a fuck up. Granted there are exceptions (always are), but the average successful person is thus due to his own merits. Do I deserve the wage I make. Fucking straight I do. I've been working on my career since I was about twelve. Way I figure it, twelve to thirteen of those were free labor. I'm getting paid back on my investment. It may pain me to say it, but Jon is spot on in that post. If you end up in a dead end job not making much money and can't find your way out of it, you are right where you deserve to be. TRUTH.

death dealer wrote:

kalm wrote:
John, every heard of wage inflation and deflation?

I have. and it's a bullshit concept.

You get out of life what you put into it, generally speaking. You wanna make a half mil a year, then you better not be a fuck up. Granted there are exceptions (always are), but the average successful person is thus due to his own merits. Do I deserve the wage I make. Fucking straight I do. I've been working on my career since I was about twelve. Way I figure it, twelve to thirteen of those were free labor. I'm getting paid back on my investment. It may pain me to say it, but Jon is spot on in that post. If you end up in a dead end job not making much money and can't find your way out of it, you are right where you deserve to be. TRUTH.

So you think a 12 year old kid making $.25 per day in a sweat shop is making exactly what they signed up for then. Lazy, unmotivated fucks.

JohnStOnge wrote:What he's calling "the working man" isn't going to pay for it. As is the case with all western societies nowadays, the expectation is that "the rich" will pay for it.

This idea that the "working man," as people like him appear to define it, is carrying the load is nonsense. "The working man" in western civilization nowadays is generally getting a cheap ride while "the rich" are paying most of the freight.

Of course even this "working man" code is nonsense. As though people who make a lot of money never work for it. So if you make some money being a pipefitter that is somehow noble and pure. Never mind that you're a lazy ass who works only as much as you absolutely have to and use the union to make sure you don't do otherwise. But if you're a surgeon who works 110 hours a week and is always on call you're not a "working man."

And of course bankers don't work either.

What a load of crap.

Give it a rest. Just put it in your sig if you feel that strongly about it.

death dealer wrote:

kalm wrote:
John, every heard of wage inflation and deflation?

I have. and it's a bullshit concept.

You get out of life what you put into it, generally speaking. You wanna make a half mil a year, then you better not be a fuck up. Granted there are exceptions (always are), but the average successful person is thus due to his own merits. Do I deserve the wage I make. Fucking straight I do. I've been working on my career since I was about twelve. Way I figure it, twelve to thirteen of those were free labor. I'm getting paid back on my investment. It may pain me to say it, but Jon is spot on in that post. If you end up in a dead end job not making much money and can't find your way out of it, you are right where you deserve to be. TRUTH.

Won't argue with you, DD. No one gets to be a surgeon or a dentist by accident.

kalm wrote:

death dealer wrote: I have. and it's a bullshit concept.

You get out of life what you put into it, generally speaking. You wanna make a half mil a year, then you better not be a fuck up. Granted there are exceptions (always are), but the average successful person is thus due to his own merits. Do I deserve the wage I make. Fucking straight I do. I've been working on my career since I was about twelve. Way I figure it, twelve to thirteen of those were free labor. I'm getting paid back on my investment. It may pain me to say it, but Jon is spot on in that post. If you end up in a dead end job not making much money and can't find your way out of it, you are right where you deserve to be. TRUTH.

So you think a 12 year old kid making $.25 per day in a sweat shop is making exactly what they signed up for then. Lazy, unmotivated fucks.

Well if you want to go all global on me and shit. sorry, I was restricting myself to domestic territory. I'm a protectionist at heart. Not a big fan of globalization. Caring about some kid in Sri Lanka is above my pay grade. I'm just narrow minded like that.

death dealer wrote:

kalm wrote:
So you think a 12 year old kid making $.25 per day in a sweat shop is making exactly what they signed up for then. Lazy, unmotivated fucks.

Well if you want to go all global on me and shit. sorry, I was restricting myself to domestic territory. I'm a protectionist at heart. Not a big fan of globalization. Caring about some kid in Sri Lanka is above my pay grade. I'm just narrow minded like that.

I just hope you have some clients who are plumbers and that you charge them double and without the cash discount in case they have to pay out of pocket. Teach 'em right for not aspiring.

I will say that this obsession and brain drain that pulls the best and brightest of our kids to play in the financial instead of science and technology is a terrible trend. Not sure there is much that can legitimately be done about that unfortunately. Brains will follow the money.

kalm wrote:

death dealer wrote: Well if you want to go all global on me and shit. sorry, I was restricting myself to domestic territory. I'm a protectionist at heart. Not a big fan of globalization. Caring about some kid in Sri Lanka is above my pay grade. I'm just narrow minded like that.

I just hope you have some clients who are plumbers and that you charge them double and without the cash discount in case they have to pay out of pocket. Teach 'em right for not aspiring.

ok, ok. I give.