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Haven't had a good one in a while. Hopefully this can spark one.

I am for it.

I am all for it. I hate this talk of how it affects heterosexual marriages. That's such bullshit. Heterosexuals divorcing 3 or 4 times or getting married just b/c the woman in pregnant is ruining heterosexual marriage.

The fvdgepackers have just as much right to be fvcking miserable as the rest of us.

CID1990 wrote:The fvdgepackers have just as much right to be fvcking miserable as the rest of us.

And go through bitter divorces and it all

They can marry bitches too.

It's odd, but being on this site, and reading conks defend the rights of gays to marry - using conservative principles no less - is something I never thought I'd see.

In MN, there is a ballot initiative to amend the Constitution to ban gay marriage - the "vote no" folks have thusfar dismissed my appeals to them to reach out to conservative men and appeal to their libertarian side on the issue. While they won't win a majority of those men, I think there is surprising opposition to this amendment from conservative men from a "live and let live - and leave the government out of it" perspective... frustrating to be getting nowhere with it - when I see evidence of it working right here.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:It's odd, but being on this site, and reading conks defend the rights of gays to marry - using conservative principles no less - is something I never thought I'd see.

In MN, there is a ballot initiative to amend the Constitution to ban gay marriage - the "vote no" folks have thusfar dismissed my appeals to them to reach out to conservative men and appeal to their libertarian side on the issue. While they won't win a majority of those men, I think there is surprising opposition to this amendment from conservative men from a "live and let live - and leave the government out of it" perspective... frustrating to be getting nowhere with it - when I see evidence of it working right here.

Just goes to show you that generalized ideas of Republicans and Conservatives don't represent the whole. There are many people in this country that can reason and respect others. It seems that once you are in office, you lost that ability.

Ibanez wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:It's odd, but being on this site, and reading conks defend the rights of gays to marry - using conservative principles no less - is something I never thought I'd see.

In MN, there is a ballot initiative to amend the Constitution to ban gay marriage - the "vote no" folks have thusfar dismissed my appeals to them to reach out to conservative men and appeal to their libertarian side on the issue. While they won't win a majority of those men, I think there is surprising opposition to this amendment from conservative men from a "live and let live - and leave the government out of it" perspective... frustrating to be getting nowhere with it - when I see evidence of it working right here.

Just goes to show you that generalized ideas of Republicans and Conservatives don't represent the whole. There are many people in this country that can reason and respect others. It seems that once you are in office, you lost that ability.

Once I was in office? I've never been elected to anything... more to the point - only one of the candidates I've worked for in my career is even left in office... a safe incumbent... (fucking 2010... decimated a decade worth of work)

Honestly - this make ideological sense for conservatives to support gay marriage - or at least a hands-off approach from government - but you don't see it very often expressed by conservatives. There are very few conservative leaders of any kind who would dare speak up on this issue (a few have, but a scant few)

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Just goes to show you that generalized ideas of Republicans and Conservatives don't represent the whole. There are many people in this country that can reason and respect others. It seems that once you are in office, you lost that ability.

Once I was in office? I've never been elected to anything... more to the point - only one of the candidates I've worked for in my career is even left in office... a safe incumbent... (fucking 2010... decimated a decade worth of work)

Honestly - this make ideological sense for conservatives to support gay marriage - or at least a hands-off approach from government - but you don't see it very often expressed by conservatives. There are very few conservative leaders of any kind who would dare speak up on this issue (a few have, but a scant few)

That was a general you as in an politician.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Honestly - this make ideological sense for conservatives to support gay marriage - or at least a hands-off approach from government - but you don't see it very often expressed by conservatives. There are very few conservative leaders of any kind who would dare speak up on this issue (a few have, but a scant few)

but you don't see it very often expressed by conservatives.

Religion is the counterargument and in the end it will fail .

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:It's odd, but being on this site, and reading conks defend the rights of gays to marry - using conservative principles no less - is something I never thought I'd see.

In MN, there is a ballot initiative to amend the Constitution to ban gay marriage - the "vote no" folks have thusfar dismissed my appeals to them to reach out to conservative men and appeal to their libertarian side on the issue. While they won't win a majority of those men, I think there is surprising opposition to this amendment from conservative men from a "live and let live - and leave the government out of it" perspective... frustrating to be getting nowhere with it - when I see evidence of it working right here.

Well i dont know where the hell you have been all this time, but i have never spoken in opposition to the queers tying the knot.

I can understand the oppositon by the whole "erosion of the american morals" crowd, but at the end of the day, i am not too worried about my kids giving pillow biting a try just because they saw a beautiful homo married couple. Plus, if we allow KY cowboy marriages, maybe SK and Jon will STFU.