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DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:48 am
by 93henfan
Coming immediately to a base near you:

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/2 ... n-job-cuts

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:52 am
by GrizFanStuckInUtah
It is hitting a lot places for sure. Hill Air Force base will cut 250+

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52836 ... l.html.csp

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:57 am
by 93henfan
I can't speak for all the jobs lost, but I can offer some perspective on my little piece of the pie, which is acquisition. The acquisition field is already critically short government-wide, yet they continue to layer more and more regulation and reporting on the letting of contracts. It's really a recipe for disaster. :twocents:

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:52 pm
by Wedgebuster
"Looking For Employment"

Recently laid off department of defense employee seeks gainful employment in the private sector. Wages must be Davis-Bacon equivalent or above, full health, dental and eye wear insurance with minimal employee participation, 401K together with matching contributions required, all government holidays paid time off, 180 sick leave and maternity requested.


Significant company profit sharing program will be considered a plus, please e-mail offers to my address so I can return confirmation and a prospective employer priority number with FAQs to you promptly..

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:14 pm
by 93henfan
Wedgebuster wrote:"Looking For Employment"

Recently laid off department of defense employee seeks gainful employment in the private sector. Wages must be Davis-Bacon equivalent or above, full health, dental and eye wear insurance with minimal employee participation, 401K together with matching contributions required, all government holidays paid time off, 180 sick leave and maternity requested.


Significant company profit sharing program will be considered a plus, please e-mail offers to my address so I can return confirmation and a prospective employer priority number with FAQs to you promptly..
Man, I wish I got all that!

Let's see, I don't work in a construction trade, so Davis Bacon wouldn't apply. Full health, dental, and eyewear would be SWEET! Unfortunately, I have to pay over $3,000/year in premium for my basic Blue Cross/Blue Shield plan that any other average Joe might choose at their private job, which requires $25 copay for every doctor visit. No cadillac plan here. I quit taking my prescription (Lovaza) for my high triglycerides because my copay went from $35/month to $75/month at the beginning of 2011. I take a Wal-Mart fish oil tab instead. My plan doesn't cover dental or eye wear. I could get that coverage, but it costs a fortune, so I, like most federal employees, don't opt for it. The TSP (our equivalent of a 401K) does offer 5% matching, which I appreciate, but it's not like they're matching whatever we put in. I also appreciate getting federal holidays, when I don't have to work them anyway due to workload. 180 sick leave and maternity? I have no idea what that means. Company profit sharing and/or stock options are obviously a non-issue.

Bottom line is that the panacea you envision federal government employment being in your fantasy world is not reality. Again, don't confuse the 535 jerkoffs on Capital Hill with the rest of us workaday schmoes.

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:06 pm
by Ibanez
93henfan wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:"Looking For Employment"

Recently laid off department of defense employee seeks gainful employment in the private sector. Wages must be Davis-Bacon equivalent or above, full health, dental and eye wear insurance with minimal employee participation, 401K together with matching contributions required, all government holidays paid time off, 180 sick leave and maternity requested.


Significant company profit sharing program will be considered a plus, please e-mail offers to my address so I can return confirmation and a prospective employer priority number with FAQs to you promptly..
Man, I wish I got all that!

Let's see, I don't work in a construction trade, so Davis Bacon wouldn't apply. Full health, dental, and eyewear would be SWEET! Unfortunately, I have to pay over $3,000/year in premium for my basic Blue Cross/Blue Shield plan that any other average Joe might choose at their private job, which requires $25 copay for every doctor visit. No cadillac plan here. I quit taking my prescription (Lovaza) for my high triglycerides because my copay went from $35/month to $75/month at the beginning of 2011. I take a Wal-Mart fish oil tab instead. My plan doesn't cover dental or eye wear. I could get that coverage, but it costs a fortune, so I, like most federal employees, don't opt for it. The TSP (our equivalent of a 401K) does offer 5% matching, which I appreciate, but it's not like they're matching whatever we put in. I also appreciate getting federal holidays, when I don't have to work them anyway due to workload. 180 sick leave and maternity? I have no idea what that means. Company profit sharing and/or stock options are obviously a non-issue.

Bottom line is that the panacea you envision federal government employment being in your fantasy world is not reality. Again, don't confuse the 535 jerkoffs on Capital Hill with the rest of us workaday schmoes.
Bingo! One would be astonished at how many Gov't employees gripe about making less than the contractors that manage. There are benefits to Gov't employment, but it isn't all that great, if you ask me. If i had retirement and Tri-Care, then maybe I would work for the Gov't.

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:11 pm
by Ibanez
Btw, I haven't heard of any cuts here, but I wouldn't be suprised.

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:22 pm
by Col Hogan
Ibanez wrote:Btw, I haven't heard of any cuts here, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Congress got the Air Force briefing on cuts Tuesday and the word is filtering down into the system today...civilian cuts is one of the ways the Air Force is "contributing" to the overall budget cuts...

You'll be hearing more about other budget cuts over the next few weeks...

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:23 pm
by Ibanez
Col Hogan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Btw, I haven't heard of any cuts here, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Congress got the Air Force briefing on cuts Tuesday and the word is filtering down into the system today...civilian cuts is one of the ways the Air Force is "contributing" to the overall budget cuts...

You'll be hearing more about other budget cuts over the next few weeks...
We laid off some people last year during the transistion to Joint Base Charleston. Think more are on the way?

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:25 pm
by Col Hogan
Ibanez wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Congress got the Air Force briefing on cuts Tuesday and the word is filtering down into the system today...civilian cuts is one of the ways the Air Force is "contributing" to the overall budget cuts...

You'll be hearing more about other budget cuts over the next few weeks...
We laid off some people last year during the transistion to Joint Base Charleston. Think more are on the way?
I don't think...I know... :ohno:

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:47 pm
by Wedgebuster
Well, we got-a cut that dang spending ya know, and we damn sure don't need no dang revenue.

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:00 pm
by Col Hogan
Wedgebuster wrote:Well, we got-a cut that dang spending ya know, and we damn sure don't need no dang revenue.
Well, for once, we agree...

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:44 am
by bluehenbillk
Hey guys, hate to be Debbie Downer here but you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until Congress & the SuperCommittee fail to agree and the automatic defense cuts kick in.

I'm jealous of only having to pay $2,500/yr in health care. let's just say that last year we qualified for the health care deduction on schedule A & will again this year (has to be greater than 7.5% of your income).

DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:19 am
by Ibanez
I hate to boast, but we are going through open enrollment and our costs have gone down 3.5%. Also, our insurance is giving some discounts for healthy living. Thank god we aren't fat,don't smoke or have any major issues. Diet and excersize are paying off.


I read that this is slowly coming into play. It seems they understand that the healthy don't need much of the services and therefore deserve a discount. Like auto insurance..,

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:11 am
by bluehenbillk
Ibanez wrote:I hate to boast, but we are going through open enrollment and our costs have gone down 3.5%. Also, our insurance is giving some discounts for healthy living. Thank god we aren't fat,don't smoke or have any major issues. Diet and excersize are paying off.
I'd be cautious about that. The national average for health care is up between 7% and 8%. I had a similar scenario about 2-3 years ago, our company had been bought by a larger company & we were switching to their plan. It cut our costs out of our paycheck by like 33% which sounded great. Believe me, if I was single or if my wife was healthy it would've been a great plan, but it was one of those plans that are great until someone gets sick, or you actually need to use it. It came close to almost doubling what we paid in total from our previous plan.

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:37 am
by TheDancinMonarch
bluehenbillk wrote:Hey guys, hate to be Debbie Downer here but you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until Congress & the SuperCommittee fail to agree and the automatic defense cuts kick in.

I'm jealous of only having to pay $2,500/yr in health care. let's just say that last year we qualified for the health care deduction on schedule A & will again this year (has to be greater than 7.5% of your income).
I believe that under the new health care law the rate will change from 7.5% to 10% for the health care deduction. Affordable care costs.

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:28 am
by bluehenbillk
TheDancinMonarch wrote:
I believe that under the new health care law the rate will change from 7.5% to 10% for the health care deduction. Affordable care costs.
Thats correct - I forget which year that's scheduled to happen in - if the new health care law even exists at all or in its present form by the time that rolls around. Another way the middle class gets the shaft....

DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:34 am
by Ibanez
bluehenbillk wrote:
Ibanez wrote:I hate to boast, but we are going through open enrollment and our costs have gone down 3.5%. Also, our insurance is giving some discounts for healthy living. Thank god we aren't fat,don't smoke or have any major issues. Diet and excersize are paying off.
I'd be cautious about that. The national average for health care is up between 7% and 8%. I had a similar scenario about 2-3 years ago, our company had been bought by a larger company & we were switching to their plan. It cut our costs out of our paycheck by like 33% which sounded great. Believe me, if I was single or if my wife was healthy it would've been a great plan, but it was one of those plans that are great until someone gets sick, or you actually need to use it. It came close to almost doubling what we paid in total from our previous plan.
we reviewed every line item, it's the same except for prescriptions. We can't use certain places and they are pushing to have all meds shipped to your home. Which is great unless your wife takes a birth control that must kept chilled until used or you need something on the way from the doctor.

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:31 am
by Ibanez
Joint Base Charleston to lose 147 jobs

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2011 ... lian-jobs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Joint Base Charleston commander Col. Richard McComb said Friday the base is losing a total of 147 positions, but that 97 of those already are vacant.

Of the other positions on the chopping block, 22 employees are taking early retirement, with the remaining 28 spots probably being let go by spring or summer.

The reductions are part of a Department of Defense cost-cutting directive to return civilian manpower to fiscal year 2010 levels. Nationally, the Air Force is eliminating about 9,000 positions.

Re: DoD Civilian Layoffs

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:34 am
by Col Hogan
Ibanez wrote:Joint Base Charleston to lose 147 jobs

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2011 ... lian-jobs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Joint Base Charleston commander Col. Richard McComb said Friday the base is losing a total of 147 positions, but that 97 of those already are vacant.

Of the other positions on the chopping block, 22 employees are taking early retirement, with the remaining 28 spots probably being let go by spring or summer.

The reductions are part of a Department of Defense cost-cutting directive to return civilian manpower to fiscal year 2010 levels. Nationally, the Air Force is eliminating about 9,000 positions.
And in the February time frame when the new President's Budget comes out, we'll see how many military folks are on the chopping block...

It ain't gonna' be pretty... :coffee: