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Washington’s insiders say some Democrats involved in the 2012 campaign may want to drop loyal Vice President Joe Biden for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The buzz claims an Obama-Clinton ticket is the party’s best hope for retaining the White House.

We like Joe and respect Hillary. But if President Barack Obama decides to follow the path of his favorite president, Abraham Lincoln, and change running mates, the insiders are buzzing about the wrong Clinton.

Unless political realities change in the next few months, a Barack-Bubba ticket figures to be stronger than an Obama-Biden replay. Bill Clinton would certainly relish being called back onto the field to save the day, help his wife and be the first former president to serve as veep.

Obama is one of the few powerful people with the personal confidence to make such a historic choice. Given the right circumstances, Obama-Clinton would make a formidable Democratic ticket.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/10 ... Page2.html

I don't think Slick Willie would be very good as second banana in chief. It would surely bolster Obama's campaign, but Clinton is a much stronger personality IMO than Obama.

I'm sure people can answer this better than me, can a 2-term president serve as VP? The Constitution states that your can only be President for 2 terms or 10 years. What if something happened say in Obama's 1st year of a second term (gasp for even saying Obama & 2nd term in same sentence)? Can Clinton finish out the term?

Editing now, again I'm not a Constitutional scholar but I believe the 12th Amendment would not allow for Bill Clinton to be the VP.

bluehenbillk wrote:I'm sure people can answer this better than me, can a 2-term president serve as VP? The Constitution states that your can only be President for 2 terms or 10 years. What if something happened say in Obama's 1st year of a second term (gasp for even saying Obama & 2nd term in same sentence)? Can Clinton finish out the term?

Editing now, again I'm not a Constitutional scholar but I believe the 12th Amendment would not allow for Bill Clinton to be the VP.

That was my first thought too. And there is no way Barry would put Bill on the ticket with him. Talk about being overshadowed......

Why not replace just Obama with Hillary? Bubba was a much better President than "o".

Or better yet, why not replace Obama with Romney?

HI54UNI wrote:

bluehenbillk wrote:I'm sure people can answer this better than me, can a 2-term president serve as VP? The Constitution states that your can only be President for 2 terms or 10 years. What if something happened say in Obama's 1st year of a second term (gasp for even saying Obama & 2nd term in same sentence)? Can Clinton finish out the term?

Editing now, again I'm not a Constitutional scholar but I believe the 12th Amendment would not allow for Bill Clinton to be the VP.

That was my first thought too. And there is no way Barry would put Bill on the ticket with him. Talk about being overshadowed......

With either Clinton as a VP to Obama, Obama would have to have a few food tasters on his staff. I would never want that much ambition looking over my shoulder.

bluehenbillk wrote:I'm sure people can answer this better than me, can a 2-term president serve as VP? The Constitution states that your can only be President for 2 terms or 10 years. What if something happened say in Obama's 1st year of a second term (gasp for even saying Obama & 2nd term in same sentence)? Can Clinton finish out the term?

Editing now, again I'm not a Constitutional scholar but I believe the 12th Amendment would not allow for Bill Clinton to be the VP.

This maybe hard to answer without a court ruling:

The 12th amendment states "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

Constitutionally speaking Bill Clinton meets the requirements to be President having lived in the US for the past 14 years, be older than 35 and being a natural born citizen.

However the 22nd amendment states "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once."

This is where a court ruling maybe needed. If Clinton were to be Vice President and have to assume office, he technically would not be elected President after having already served the limit of two terms.

The argument is the 12th amendment speaks solely on the three requirements listed above and while that is true since it was written and adopted before the 22nd amendment, others argue that the 22nd amendment once adopted becomes part of the above three requirements, but there has never been a legal ruling on the matter as the issue has never come forth.

Clinton could also potentially be appointed to fill a vice presidential vacancy via the 25th amendment.

He absolutely should pick a new VP. Biden doesn't bring much to the table.

Hillary would be a good choice and she would definitely be on board. Not sure if he would do it... but, Bloomberg would be a great choice as well.

Skjellyfetti wrote:He absolutely should pick a new VP. Biden doesn't bring much to the table.

Hillary would be a good choice and she would definitely be on board. Not sure if he would do it... but, Bloomberg would be a great choice as well.

How do you know Hillary would be on board? Did she confide in you? The last thing Obama wants is a Clinton looking over his shoulder. He's scared of dat crazy white bitch.

CitadelGrad wrote: How do you know Hillary would be on board? Did she confide in you?

Because she's power hungry and it would be a step up. He's also her boss.

UNHWildCats wrote:

bluehenbillk wrote:I'm sure people can answer this better than me, can a 2-term president serve as VP? The Constitution states that your can only be President for 2 terms or 10 years. What if something happened say in Obama's 1st year of a second term (gasp for even saying Obama & 2nd term in same sentence)? Can Clinton finish out the term?

Editing now, again I'm not a Constitutional scholar but I believe the 12th Amendment would not allow for Bill Clinton to be the VP.

This maybe hard to answer without a court ruling:

The 12th amendment states "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

Constitutionally speaking Bill Clinton meets the requirements to be President having lived in the US for the past 14 years, be older than 35 and being a natural born citizen.

However the 22nd amendment states "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once."

This is where a court ruling maybe needed. If Clinton were to be Vice President and have to assume office, he technically would not be elected President after having already served the limit of two terms.
The argument is the 12th amendment speaks solely on the three requirements listed above and while that is true since it was written and adopted before the 22nd amendment, others argue that the 22nd amendment once adopted becomes part of the above three requirements, but there has never been a legal ruling on the matter as the issue has never come forth.

Clinton could also potentially be appointed to fill a vice presidential vacancy via the 25th amendment.

I think the better view is that you read the Constitution as a whole, and the combination of the 12th and 22nd Amendments bars Bill Clinton from the VP slot. What would happen if Obama died in office? You'd have to go down to the House Speaker, because Bill couldn't serve again.

Skjellyfetti wrote:He absolutely should pick a new VP. Biden doesn't bring much to the table.

Hillary would be a good choice and she would definitely be on board. Not sure if he would do it... but, Bloomberg would be a great choice as well.

Nothing to the table?


Nothing to the table?!?


Two years ago, Biden was the God of US foreign policy. Now he doesn't bring much to the table.

The whole Donk universe doesn't bring much to the table.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote: How do you know Hillary would be on board? Did she confide in you?

Because she's power hungry and it would be a step up. He's also her boss.

Um, she is power hungry and that is probably a good reason her boss would not want her on the ticket. Since when is the vice presidency a step up from running the DoS?