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The Tea Party movement has had some PR problems since the almost-default of the summertime debt fight. TPM has reported on the increasingly negative view of the conservative movement Americans have taken, and on Tuesday there was more bad news: CNN/ORC polling, which has tracked the Tea Party’s popularity since January 2010, shows that a majority of Americans now views it unfavorably.

The poll shows that only 28 percent of Americans do view the Tea Party favorably, versus a full 53 percent who don’t. The poll shows that less than twenty percent don’t have an opinion of Tea Partiers, which is the lowest yet — an issue on polling the movement has been that many Americans simply didn’t know enough about it. That has clearly changed since the beginning of last year.

kalm wrote:Oh, oh.

The Tea Party movement has had some PR problems since the almost-default of the summertime debt fight. TPM has reported on the increasingly negative view of the conservative movement Americans have taken, and on Tuesday there was more bad news: CNN/ORC polling, which has tracked the Tea Party’s popularity since January 2010, shows that a majority of Americans now views it unfavorably.

The poll shows that only 28 percent of Americans do view the Tea Party favorably, versus a full 53 percent who don’t. The poll shows that less than twenty percent don’t have an opinion of Tea Partiers, which is the lowest yet — an issue on polling the movement has been that many Americans simply didn’t know enough about it. That has clearly changed since the beginning of last year.

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CID1990 wrote:

kalm wrote:Oh, oh.



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AZGrizFan wrote:So the MSM character assault has worked to perfection. Nice.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:So the MSM character assault has worked to perfection. Nice.

Yeah... that did it...

it totally wasn't their ilk pushing the GOP to bring our country to the brink of default... or cheering they death of hypothetically uninsured person, or the booing of a gay soldier or the cheering of Rick Perry for executing people...
of course they haven't brought this on themselves - of course it's "the media's fault"

"party of personal responsibility"

AZGrizFan wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
Yeah... that did it...

it totally wasn't their ilk pushing the GOP to bring our country to the brink of default... or cheering they death of hypothetically uninsured person, or the booing of a gay soldier or the cheering of Rick Perry for executing people...
of course they haven't brought this on themselves - of course it's "the media's fault"

"party of personal responsibility"

Do you know for a fact that those were actual tea party members?

Yeah...didn't think so.

AZGrizFan wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
Yeah... that did it...

it totally wasn't their ilk pushing the GOP to bring our country to the brink of default... or cheering they death of hypothetically uninsured person, or the booing of a gay soldier or the cheering of Rick Perry for executing people...
of course they haven't brought this on themselves - of course it's "the media's fault"

"party of personal responsibility"

Do you know for a fact that those were actual tea party members?

Yeah...didn't think so.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Do you know for a fact that those were actual tea party members?

Yeah...didn't think so.

Two of those debates were hosted by Tea Party groups...

AZGrizFan wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
Two of those debates were hosted by Tea Party groups...

So? Should I assume that everyone who attends a debate hosted by CNN is a socialist?

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote: So? Should I assume that everyone who attends a debate hosted by CNN is a socialist?

Keep reaching...

GannonFan wrote:I'm sure the real Tea Party types (reduce spending, no tax increases) really don't care about the polls. While the Tea Party name is thoroughly discredited and ridiculed now, they have started to get what they wanted in the first place (reduce spending, no tax increases). The 2010 election was a ringing success from their standpoint and while Obama remains likely to win reelection, there's no denying that the course of his Preisdency and his ability to do things contrary to the Tea Party mantra (i.e. raise spending and increase taxes) isn't likely to happen. As political movements go, this one's been exceedingly successful, even while parts of it have been completely wrecked on the PR side of things.

BlueHen86 wrote:

GannonFan wrote:I'm sure the real Tea Party types (reduce spending, no tax increases) really don't care about the polls. While the Tea Party name is thoroughly discredited and ridiculed now, they have started to get what they wanted in the first place (reduce spending, no tax increases). The 2010 election was a ringing success from their standpoint and while Obama remains likely to win reelection, there's no denying that the course of his Preisdency and his ability to do things contrary to the Tea Party mantra (i.e. raise spending and increase taxes) isn't likely to happen. As political movements go, this one's been exceedingly successful, even while parts of it have been completely wrecked on the PR side of things.

They could have gotten these things without getting the bad PR. It's not like they are asking for anything that most people don't already want. I think you could argue that are succeeding in spite of themselves and that if they have better leadership they could be doing even better.

AZGrizFan wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
They could have gotten these things without getting the bad PR. It's not like they are asking for anything that most people don't already want. I think you could argue that are succeeding in spite of themselves and that if they have better leadership they could be doing even better.

PRobably true...but much like the moveon.org'ers, the birthers, etc....they kooks get the press. Period.

GannonFan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
PRobably true...but much like the moveon.org'ers, the birthers, etc....they kooks get the press. Period.

Agree with AZ - there are just too many kooks making too much noise for the label "Tea party" not to suffer. But where the Dems have tried and failed in this is assuming that the bad press that comes from the kooks is enough to completely disregard the original kernel of a message of reduced spending and lower taxes. Assuming that the warts and all would mean they can ignore that movement cost them in 2010 and will plague them next year too - not everywhere and in every race, and probably not in the big Presidential one, but in enough places that we end up where we are today with that sentiment (reduced spending yada yada yada) in enough places of power to be a significant factor.

kalm wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Agree with AZ - there are just too many kooks making too much noise for the label "Tea party" not to suffer. But where the Dems have tried and failed in this is assuming that the bad press that comes from the kooks is enough to completely disregard the original kernel of a message of reduced spending and lower taxes. Assuming that the warts and all would mean they can ignore that movement cost them in 2010 and will plague them next year too - not everywhere and in every race, and probably not in the big Presidential one, but in enough places that we end up where we are today with that sentiment (reduced spending yada yada yada) in enough places of power to be a significant factor.

Yet they have done nothing to push a truly populist position. They know they're mad but can't bring themselves to question the power elites.

Grizalltheway wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Do you know for a fact that those were actual tea party members?

Yeah...didn't think so.

And where's any kind of proof that this is the result of "MSM"?

BlueHen86 wrote:
... It's not like they are asking for anything that most people don't already want. ....

JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:We are "Tea Partiers", not "Tea baggers".

The derogatory, and MSM accepted, name change shows the arrogance that the left holds.

So be it. When we control the Senate and House, with a new President, Democrats will be wondering who moved their cheese.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
And where's any kind of proof that this is the result of "MSM"?

NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, HLN....