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I've voiced this opinion many times. I think the generations that grew up in the 1970's to the 1990's will be the saving grace of this country.

Ibanez wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/29/opinion/n ... ?hpt=hp_c1
I've voiced this opinion many times. I think the generations that grew up in the 1970's to the 1990's will be the saving grace of this country.

I don't think so. They're worse than the Reagan-diseased generation before them for other reasons. We are doomed after that because it's, then, the IPod-Playstation-XBox fvcks who will be in charge.

Capitalism is to blame for all our ills.

Did you read the entire article, Mark? It's one theory among many, and even the author (Ruben Navarette) -- who is pretty moderate on most issues -- isn't convinced. But if the "millennials" want to effect change, they'd better start voting. Right now, their turnout record is rather poor, and there are more Boomers out there anyway.

Great topic!

Being of the 80's and Gen X I am so far, unimpressed. Much of this is cyclical and my generation was raised during an era of greed and complacency. We were sandwiched in between the change and movement of the previous generation and the tech explosion of the 90's. Half of us are nomads. The other half are government hating, greedy, Reaganites with a serious Daniel Boone complex.

Unless we learn and improve I think (as the article suggests) that it will be the smarter more open minded millenials that save the day. From a calendar standpoint and a crisis standpoint they might be the next "great generation".

The boomers did some nice work though.

Chris, GATW, Willie, Clenzy, Youngterrier, and me are gonna be the one's savin' this country?














Yup, we're fucked.

∞∞∞ wrote:Chris, GATW, Willie, Clenzy, Youngterrier, and me are gonna be the one's savin' this country?













Yup, we're fucked.

Hey, don't forget about wideright!




Yeah, we're definitely fucked.

Cap'n Cat wrote:

Ibanez wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/29/opinion/n ... ?hpt=hp_c1
I've voiced this opinion many times. I think the generations that grew up in the 1970's to the 1990's will be the saving grace of this country.

I don't think so. They're worse than the Reagan-diseased generation before them for other reasons. We are doomed after that because it's, then, the IPod-Playstation-XBox fvcks who will be in charge.

Capitalism is to blame for all our ills.

Multiple studies have shown video games to be good for the brain. Next.

Thought this thread was going to be about mushrooms.

Skjellyfetti wrote:Thought this thread was going to be about mushrooms.

You forgot Skelly!

...still fucked.

Ivytalk wrote:Did you read the entire article, Mark? It's one theory among many, and even the author (Ruben Navarette) -- who is pretty moderate on most issues -- isn't convinced. But if the "millennials" want to effect change, they'd better start voting. Right now, their turnout record is rather poor, and there are more Boomers out there anyway.

I read it. THe millennials will be forced to act, we have no choice and we have plenty of people that have the drive to effect change.

kalm wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:Thought this thread was going to be about mushrooms.

You forgot Skelly!

...still fucked.

Oh yeah, and ODUalum11...

...double fucked.

∞∞∞ wrote:

kalm wrote:
You forgot Skelly!

...still fucked.

Oh yeah, and ODUalum11...

...double fucked.

SE174...

nevermind.

kalm wrote:

∞∞∞ wrote: Oh yeah, and ODUalum11...

...double fucked.

SE174...

nevermind.

Razor's only 26 or 27...


...things are lookin' bleaker by the sec.

Ibanez wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:Did you read the entire article, Mark? It's one theory among many, and even the author (Ruben Navarette) -- who is pretty moderate on most issues -- isn't convinced. But if the "millennials" want to effect change, they'd better start voting. Right now, their turnout record is rather poor, and there are more Boomers out there anyway.

I read it. THe millennials will be forced to act, we have no choice and we have plenty of people that have the drive to effect change.

Have you met any of us?!? We have no drive whatsoever.

SDHornet wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I read it. THe millennials will be forced to act, we have no choice and we have plenty of people that have the drive to effect change.

Have you met any of us?!? We have no drive whatsoever.

Sure we do! We drive to the mall, to the movies, the liquor store...

SDHornet wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I read it. THe millennials will be forced to act, we have no choice and we have plenty of people that have the drive to effect change.

Have you met any of us?!? We have no drive whatsoever.

I'm one of you. Maybe I haven't met the shitty members of our generation, just read about them in the news.

Beginning the old 20 quarter countdown on Jan 1, 2012

Boomers as a lot are a generally some of the most self-absorbed, greedy and selfish fuckers I've ever encountered...

While Xers are right-wing shits generally, and have never really shaken the "slacker" label - Millenials (of which I technically am one... right at the beginning) are generally very goal oriented, but I will say that they have a tendency to overvalue their input and become petulant toward top-down authority structures... also - their boomer/x'er parents tend to helicopter in - even in their professional lives - which is equal parts hilarious and annoying...

as for fault... it's really hard not to look at the political demands made by the boomers of their politicians...

they are seemingly virulently anti-tax and yet want no corresponding cuts to services... when you ask what they want cut - they always go on about "waste" but can't point to a concrete example that hasn't been remedied in the last 20 years already... or moreover - that won't do shit to fix the problem...

politicians, realizing their electoral future depends on boomers - give them what they want - mostly because any time a leader tries to make hard choices, (as rare as that is) they are run out of town on a rail - and quickly.

You know, I was born in 1971, grew up in the 80's, went to college/got married in the 90's, had kids in the 00's.

Looking back, the 90's kicked some serious ass.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Boomers as a lot are a generally some of the most self-absorbed, greedy and selfish fuckers I've ever encountered.

There was actually a story the other day about how many Boomers want to leave this country after retiring because many of 'em don't find the US havin' anything worthwhile left...

...so basically they've pretty much fucked this country with their politics, collect their benefits, and then leave.

Nice.

Ain't any generation. We're "Americans" for christ sake. We're lazy, dumb, violent, spoiled, greedy and we think the world owes us everything.

We're fucked because we're all flawed, everyone.

I'll say it again, the hippies were right - live in harmony with nature, live simply, be happy and love one another.

D1B wrote:I'll say it again, the hippies were right - live in harmony with nature, live simply, be happy and love one another.

This is the same generation runnin' the country right now...

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:they are seemingly virulently anti-tax and yet want no corresponding cuts to services... when you ask what they want cut - they always go on about "waste" but can't point to a concrete example that hasn't been remedied in the last 20 years already... or moreover - that won't do shit to fix the problem...

politicians, realizing their electoral future depends on boomers - give them what they want - mostly because any time a leader tries to make hard choices, (as rare as that is) they are run out of town on a rail - and quickly.

Really? I don't think you can make such a rash generalization about boomers. Maybe the OLDER boomers, but those of us on the younger end of the boomer scale should have our OWN designation because there's a definite split in philosophy between the 60+ boomers and the <59 boomers....

And how did that "giving them what they want" work for the politicians in 2010?

AZGrizFan wrote:

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:they are seemingly virulently anti-tax and yet want no corresponding cuts to services... when you ask what they want cut - they always go on about "waste" but can't point to a concrete example that hasn't been remedied in the last 20 years already... or moreover - that won't do shit to fix the problem...

politicians, realizing their electoral future depends on boomers - give them what they want - mostly because any time a leader tries to make hard choices, (as rare as that is) they are run out of town on a rail - and quickly.

Really? I don't think you can make such a rash generalization about boomers. Maybe the OLDER boomers, but those of us on the younger end of the boomer scale should have our OWN designation because there's a definite split in philosophy between the 60+ boomers and the <59 boomers....

And how did that "giving them what they want" work for the politicians in 2010?

Agreed. Those of us born from say, 58 to 64 are definately different than those born in the first 12 years.

∞∞∞ wrote:

D1B wrote:I'll say it again, the hippies were right - live in harmony with nature, live simply, be happy and love one another.

This is the same generation runnin' the country right now...

There are these hippy types in every generation. Just go to a farmers market.

They've figured it out and are living a lifestyle that preferably sooner or, with horrifying consequences, later we are all going to have to adopt.