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why can't he win the Republican nomination?

The vote has no bearing on the choice of a 2012 nominee but, along with recent campaign events, is likely to increase the chances that the Republican presidential contest will tighten. It comes on the heels of a performance by Perry in a Florida debate Thursday night that disappointed conservatives, including delegates who came to Orlando expecting to back the Texas governor.

Cain received 37% of the vote. Perry, who made by far the most extensive effort, was a distant second with 15%. He barely edged out Mitt Romney, who did not compete here, at 14%. He was followed by Rick Santorum, 11%; Ron Paul, 10%; Newt Gingrich, 8% and Jon Huntsman, 2%.

Michele Bachmann, who scored a high-profile straw vote victory in Iowa last month, finished last, with less than 2%. The Minnesota congresswoman, like Romney, chose not to compete in the Florida ballot.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 7353.story

I would really consider voting for him.

He is definitely much more genuine than Romney and Perry. I remember his campaign in the senate primary race in Georgia and he is basically the same person in the primary as he is now. He was using many of the republican talking points of today back when the likes of Perry, Bachmann, and Romney were cheerleading Bush's fiscal recklessness. I would certainly choose him before any of those guys.

The problem is that he's only slightly more qualified to be president than Obama was when he was inaugurated.

Herman Cain may not [EDIT: will not] win the nomination, but he is awesome!

Marco Rubio may be a better tactical choice for VP, but Herman Cain would be a fantastic selection.

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How can this be?
The political experts that are Hollywood actors (latest being Morgan Freeman) say that the Tea Party are all racists.

This must be really confusing to the progressive socialists...do I believe my ears or my eyes

No question Cain is sharp. Overall, I agree with his approach, but balk at the flat tax proposal. In all fairness, I can't see a Congress, either Donk or Conk controlled, ever approving a flat tax.

I wouldn't have a problem with him being the Rep nominee. More importantly, he'd pull much of the minority sector that went with Obama solely due to his race...and would short circuit those who wouldn't vote for Obama solely due to his race.

Bronco wrote:_
How can this be?
The political experts that are Hollywood actors (latest being Morgan Freeman) say that the Tea Party are all racists.

This must be really confusing to the progressive socialists...do I believe my ears or my eyes

Morgan Freeman.

travelinman67 wrote:No question Cain is sharp. Overall, I agree with his approach, but balk at the flat tax proposal. In all fairness, I can't see a Congress, either Donk or Conk controlled, ever approving a flat tax.

I wouldn't have a problem with him being the Rep nominee. More importantly, he'd pull much of the minority sector that went with Obama solely due to his race...and would short circuit those who wouldn't vote for Obama solely due to his race.

I suspect Cain would pull no more than half of the black vote. Unfortunately, stupidity and dependency are more than skin deep among the black electorate.

The "9-9-9" flat tax is Cain's best and most practical idea. I am not saying it is politically feasible, I am just saying it would cure a whole lot of ills in the present tax system.

Does this mean that Perry is going back to Texas for good.

Pwns wrote:He is definitely much more genuine than Romney and Perry. I remember his campaign in the senate primary race in Georgia and he is basically the same person in the primary as he is now. He was using many of the republican talking points of today back when the likes of Perry, Bachmann, and Romney were cheerleading Bush's fiscal recklessness. I would certainly choose him before any of those guys.

The problem is that he's only slightly more qualified to be president than Obama was when he was inaugurated.

Cain has military service and extensive business experience. Obama had neither when he was elected.

I like Cain, and I like his platform. I still do not think he has much of a chance, but if pigs fly I will certainly vote for him.

There are only one or two potential GOP candidates I would not vote for, Cain is not one of those.

Just think.... Cain POTUS, Rubio VPOTUS, Bolton SecState... I could get on board with that.

native wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:No question Cain is sharp. Overall, I agree with his approach, but balk at the flat tax proposal. In all fairness, I can't see a Congress, either Donk or Conk controlled, ever approving a flat tax.

I wouldn't have a problem with him being the Rep nominee. More importantly, he'd pull much of the minority sector that went with Obama solely due to his race...and would short circuit those who wouldn't vote for Obama solely due to his race.

I suspect Cain would pull no more than half of the black vote. Unfortunately, stupidity and dependency are more than skin deep among the black electorate.

The "9-9-9" flat tax is Cain's best and most practical idea. I am not saying it is politically feasible, I am just saying it would cure a whole lot of ills in the present tax system.

Well, McCain pulled something like 10% of the black vote in '08, so Cain even getting a third of it in 2012 would be a big boost.

CID1990 wrote:I like Cain, and I like his platform. I still do not think he has much of a chance, but if pigs fly I will certainly vote for him.

There are only one or two potential GOP candidates I would not vote for, Cain is not one of those.

Just think.... Cain POTUS, Rubio VPOTUS, Bolton SecState... I could get on board with that.

Cain, Rubio, Bolton... Yeah, Baby!

Is Obama is the Dem nominee I would vote for any Repub. Even though I detest Hilary, if she turns out to be the nominee and one of the weaker Repubs manages to snag the other nomination, I would have to seriously think about it.

native wrote:Herman Cain will not win the nomination, but he is awesome!

Marco Rubio may be a better tactical choice for VP, but Herman Cain would be a fantastic selection.

I could be wrong. As DRocks stated when starting this thread, Cain beat Romney and Perry to win the Florida straw poll. He's certainly a breath of fresh air, and he has prior military, government, and business experience. Cain also makes a great case for why he could win and should serve despite never having held high elected office in the article posted by DRocks:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washing ... mney-.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From the previously cited LA Times article:

"...when you cast your ballot at this straw poll, send Washington a message: they’re ready for a problem solver, not another politician. They’re ready for solutions, not more speeches.” [Herman Cain]

Cain's victory in the straw poll could be attributed to his speech or to his debate performance or to his 9-9-9 economic plan or to his compelling personal story.

The son of working-class parents, Cain grew up in Atlanta, Ga., and went on to attend Morehouse College and Purdue University.

After working as a mathematician for the Department of the Navy, Cain pursued a career in business that included executive leadership positions at Pillsbury Company, Godfather's Pizza and the National Restaurant Association.

I like Cain, but I do have one issue with him which maybe shouldn't be an issue. It is one of the problems with someone being on a radio show. I make occasional trips to Atlanta and have listened once or twice.

The topic was the fair tax which I believe Cain supports but would like to implement later. A caller had a question on how that would impact people on disability that didn't pay taxes now but would under the fair tax. Cain couldn't explain that everyone would receive a rebate on the estimated taxes paid for the first X dollars in income. Now I am not that knowledgeable about the fair tax but even with the little I know, I could have answered that question. Seems to me that if you are going to state your support for something as controversial as the fair tax, you had better understand it.


Like I said, might be picky and just a bad time to have listened. This was about the same time that he announced he was running for president and all I could think of was man you have a long way to go.

native wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:No question Cain is sharp. Overall, I agree with his approach, but balk at the flat tax proposal. In all fairness, I can't see a Congress, either Donk or Conk controlled, ever approving a flat tax.

I wouldn't have a problem with him being the Rep nominee. More importantly, he'd pull much of the minority sector that went with Obama solely due to his race...and would short circuit those who wouldn't vote for Obama solely due to his race.

I suspect Cain would pull no more than half of the black vote. Unfortunately, stupidity and dependency are more than skin deep among the black electorate.

The "9-9-9" flat tax is Cain's best and most practical idea. I am not saying it is politically feasible, I am just saying it would cure a whole lot of ills in the present tax system.

Kind of ironic, since Cain is a lot blacker than the half white/half black Obama.

Cain will have to overcome the "Uncle Tom" stigma that goes with every successful mainstream black man in the eyes of the black community. Just like Alan Keyes...but we all know that Alan Keyes was/is insane

Bolton for SecDef?

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We did a little digging to find out more — and as it turns out, Cain has a fascinating background that includes stints as a scientist, CEO, and an economist.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...

Remind me again what qualifications Obungler had? A community agitator?

OMG
Obama must go

kalm wrote:Bolton for SecDef?

No, SecState.

CID1990 wrote:

kalm wrote:Bolton for SecDef?

No, SecState.

Oh, sorry.

kalm wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
No, SecState.

Oh, sorry.

Why you laughin', klam? John Bolton is brilliant and has forgotten more about international relations than the Hildabeast will ever learn.

Ivytalk wrote:

kalm wrote:
Oh, sorry.

Why you laughin', klam? John Bolton is brilliant and has forgotten more about international relations than the Hildabeast will ever learn.

PNAC, neo colonialist, neo con, nut job. I've seen him interviewed on a number of shows and have to admit that he's very smart and funny but also bat shit crazy when it comes to foreign policy.

OL FU wrote:I like Cain, but I do have one issue with him which maybe shouldn't be an issue. It is one of the problems with someone being on a radio show. I make occasional trips to Atlanta and have listened once or twice.

The topic was the fair tax which I believe Cain supports but would like to implement later. A caller had a question on how that would impact people on disability that didn't pay taxes now but would under the fair tax. Cain couldn't explain that everyone would receive a rebate on the estimated taxes paid for the first X dollars in income. Now I am not that knowledgeable about the fair tax but even with the little I know, I could have answered that question. Seems to me that if you are going to state your support for something as controversial as the fair tax, you had better understand it.


Like I said, might be picky and just a bad time to have listened. This was about the same time that he announced he was running for president and all I could think of was man you have a long way to go.

Considering the vast, gaping hole in knowledge brought to the table by the sitting president, I'd say "picky" was putting it mildly.

The very idea that a thread like this has to hapopen is a damning indictment of the current Conk field of idiots and the lack of good Conk ideas. If Conks are so smart and know all the cures for our ills, why can't they get the message across???? Surely, ONE of these idiots can convey it, no?


Conks are fvcked well into the 2030's.


Four more years, man.