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In the little bit of research I have done, and I do mean very little, this guy seems like the only sane GOPer running. Tell me why you think he isn't.
I do however have an unwavering distrust of anything Morman.

Jon Huntsman: The Other Mormon.

I've never met a Morman. What's their deal? Why don't people like em.

polsongrizz wrote:In the little bit of research I have done, and I do mean very little, this guy seems like the only sane GOPer running. Tell me why you think he isn't.
I do however have an unwavering distrust of anything Morman.

I'll agree that Huntsman is the only candidate for either party I've seen so far that at least has some new ideas.

After reading what Obama is going to talk about tomorrow night - it reads to me as a re-do of the stimulus that has already failed miserably. Then I read Romney's plan & again I want to throw up in my own mouth - there really isn't anything in it as well that'd create jobs or improve the economy. Neither plan even has the faintest smell of bipartisanship.

The problem with American politics frankly is that there has never been a time in this country's history where our leaders have shown "less of a sack" than they do today.

Campaign 469 - send them all packing.

andy7171 wrote:I've never met a Morman. What's their deal? Why don't people like em.

Tom Cruise is one, right?

93henfan wrote:

andy7171 wrote:I've never met a Morman. What's their deal? Why don't people like em.

Tom Cruise is one, right?

No, Scientologist.

bluehenbillk wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Tom Cruise is one, right?

No, Scientologist.

Isn't that the same thing?

andy7171 wrote:I've never met a Morman. What's their deal? Why don't people like em.

If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand.

93henfan wrote:

bluehenbillk wrote:
No, Scientologist.

Isn't that the same thing?

Nope.

Scientologists. Making Mormons look normal since 1952.

andy7171 wrote:I've never met a Morman. What's their deal? Why don't people like em.

10. The earth is 7,000 years old. There is no official statement by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints about the age of the earth, but many Mormons (and many Christians of some sects) believe that the age of the earth is on the order of thousands of years rather than billions calculated by widely accepted scientific methods.

9. Mars and Venus have dry rivers. The dry rivers on Mars and Venus were the source of the flowing rivers on earth. The theory is that the dry rivers on Mars and Venus \”match\” the rivers on Earth and that proves that all three planets were organized from the same source.

8. Dinosaur bones come from other planets. LDS Church Institute instructors teach that fossilized dinosaur bones are from creatures that lived on other worlds that were destroyed in the creation of the earth.

7. Mormon scripture teaches that Cain, who killed his brother Abel, was so evil that God \”cursed\” him with black skin, thus creating the African race. In a related belief, though the LDS church has deemed any worthy male to be part of the priesthood, black males were not recognized in this capacity until 1978.

6. In cases of the sin of murder, the murder of the sinner and the mixing of his blood with the earth bring forgiveness. In 1977 after the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty, Gary Gilmore chose to be executed by firing squad in Utah due to his belief in blood atonement.

5. In 1960, The Prophet Spencer W. Kimball taught that when Native Americans become Mormons their skin turns white. He said \”The [Indian] children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.\”

4. Also on the subject of Native Americans, the preface to the Book of Mormon from 1981 indicates that descendents of Lehi are a \”remnant of the House of Israel\” and were ancestors to American Indians. However, the DNA of Native Americans indicates an Asian origin.

3. When a marriage is sealed in the Temple, a husband can know his wife\’s celestial name, but she cannot know his. This is so that if he so chooses, he can resurrect her after her death by calling her celestial name.

2. Mormons believe that after the resurrection, Jesus visited America and there he performed miracles and taught.

1. Kolub is a star mentioned in the Book of Abraham as being closest to the throne of God. The Book of Abraham is canonized by the LDS church, Mormon fundamentalist organizations, and other LDS sects. Kolub inspired \”Kobol\” in Mormon Glen A. Larson\’s Battlestar Galactica universe.

Add to that that they go through every obituary page they can and baptize the dead into their church.

andy7171 wrote:I've never met a Morman. What's their deal? Why don't people like em.

They banned them from AGS.

In terms of economic (including taxes and trade) and energy policies, I could support Huntsman in a heartbeat. I agreed with virtually every position plank on his website in those areas. The only negative I've heard is that He Worked For Obama.

1. They don't drink.

That's all I need to know.

Ivytalk wrote:In terms of economic (including taxes and trade) and energy policies, I could support Huntsman in a heartbeat. I agreed with virtually every position plank on his website in those areas. The only negative I've heard is that He Worked For Obama.

And nobody has heard of him. That's defintely not working for him....

Found this on a right wing msg board...

Huntsman was a popular governor in Utah with an approval rating upwards of %90. All of we ex-pats loved him when he was out there with us in Beijing.

But the right won't touch him. He refuses to pander to them, instead affirming evolution, climate change, and compromise. The right hates Romney because he's insincere. They hate Huntsman because he's unwilling to pander. They also hate him because he refuses to to use bat shit crazy verbiage against Libs.

polsongrizz wrote:Found this on a right wing msg board...

Huntsman was a popular governor in Utah with an approval rating upwards of %90. All of we ex-pats loved him when he was out there with us in Beijing.

But the right won't touch him. He refuses to pander to them, instead affirming evolution, climate change, and compromise. The right hates Romney because he's insincere. They hate Huntsman because he's unwilling to pander. They also hate him because he refuses to to use bat shit crazy verbiage against Libs.

Really. I mean, why in the world would we want THAT?

Ivytalk wrote:In terms of economic (including taxes and trade) and energy policies, I could support Huntsman in a heartbeat. I agreed with virtually every position plank on his website in those areas. The only negative I've heard is that He Worked For Obama.

Really? Huntsman is/was for cap and trade.

I'm voting for him in the primary here in SC

polsongrizz wrote:

andy7171 wrote:I've never met a Morman. What's their deal? Why don't people like em.

10. The earth is 7,000 years old. There is no official statement by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints about the age of the earth, but many Mormons (and many Christians of some sects) believe that the age of the earth is on the order of thousands of years rather than billions calculated by widely accepted scientific methods.

9. Mars and Venus have dry rivers. The dry rivers on Mars and Venus were the source of the flowing rivers on earth. The theory is that the dry rivers on Mars and Venus \”match\” the rivers on Earth and that proves that all three planets were organized from the same source.

8. Dinosaur bones come from other planets. LDS Church Institute instructors teach that fossilized dinosaur bones are from creatures that lived on other worlds that were destroyed in the creation of the earth.

7. Mormon scripture teaches that Cain, who killed his brother Abel, was so evil that God \”cursed\” him with black skin, thus creating the African race. In a related belief, though the LDS church has deemed any worthy male to be part of the priesthood, black males were not recognized in this capacity until 1978.

6. In cases of the sin of murder, the murder of the sinner and the mixing of his blood with the earth bring forgiveness. In 1977 after the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty, Gary Gilmore chose to be executed by firing squad in Utah due to his belief in blood atonement.

5. In 1960, The Prophet Spencer W. Kimball taught that when Native Americans become Mormons their skin turns white. He said \”The [Indian] children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.\”

4. Also on the subject of Native Americans, the preface to the Book of Mormon from 1981 indicates that descendents of Lehi are a \”remnant of the House of Israel\” and were ancestors to American Indians. However, the DNA of Native Americans indicates an Asian origin.

3. When a marriage is sealed in the Temple, a husband can know his wife\’s celestial name, but she cannot know his. This is so that if he so chooses, he can resurrect her after her death by calling her celestial name.

2. Mormons believe that after the resurrection, Jesus visited America and there he performed miracles and taught.

1. Kolub is a star mentioned in the Book of Abraham as being closest to the throne of God. The Book of Abraham is canonized by the LDS church, Mormon fundamentalist organizations, and other LDS sects. Kolub inspired \”Kobol\” in Mormon Glen A. Larson\’s Battlestar Galactica universe.

Add to that that they go through every obituary page they can and baptize the dead into their church.

HI54UNI wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:In terms of economic (including taxes and trade) and energy policies, I could support Huntsman in a heartbeat. I agreed with virtually every position plank on his website in those areas. The only negative I've heard is that He Worked For Obama.

Really? Huntsman is/was for cap and trade.

So is/was Obama, and we've managed to avoid it so far. You're NEVER going to agree with everything a candidate stands for.

AZGrizFan wrote:

HI54UNI wrote:

Really? Huntsman is/was for cap and trade.

So is/was Obama, and we've managed to avoid it so far. You're NEVER going to agree with everything a candidate stands for.

THIS. Perfection is not attainable.

Ivytalk wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
So is/was Obama, and we've managed to avoid it so far. You're NEVER going to agree with everything a candidate stands for.

THIS. Perfection is not attainable.

It will be when I run for president, IT.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: THIS. Perfection is not attainable.

It will be when I run for president, IT.

Z, you'd make a great president, but I think your candidacy will be toast as soon as Donk operatives like TTBF unearth your "TTFKN" vanity tag!

AZGrizFan wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: THIS. Perfection is not attainable.

It will be when I run for president, IT.

Hold on there Zeus, there is that little Squid thing...

AZGrizFan wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: THIS. Perfection is not attainable.

It will be when I run for president, IT.

How'd that "30 for 30" campaign promise work out?

"change we can believe in"...