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Another reason not to buy from Govt Motors

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:48 pm
by BDKJMU
GM says bankruptcy excuses it from Impala repairs
* New GM said not responsible to fix Impala made by old GM
* Suspension problem said to cause excessive tire wear

By Jonathan Stempel

NEW YORK, Aug 19 (Reuters) - General Motors Co (GM.N) is seeking to dismiss a lawsuit over a suspension problem on more than 400,000 Chevrolet Impalas from the 2007 and 2008 model years, saying it should not be responsible for repairs because the flaw predated its bankruptcy.

The lawsuit, filed on June 29 by Donna Trusky of Blakely, Pennsylvania, contended that her Impala suffered from faulty rear spindle rods, causing her rear tires to wear out after just 6,000 miles. [ID:nN1E7650CT]

Seeking class-action status and alleging breach of warranty, the lawsuit demands that GM fix the rods, saying that it had done so on Impala police vehicles.

But in a recent filing with the U.S. District Court in Detroit, GM noted that the cars were made by its predecessor General Motors Corp, now called Motors Liquidation Co or "Old GM," before its 2009 bankruptcy and federal bailout.

The current company, called "New GM," said it did not assume responsibility under the reorganization to fix the Impala problem, but only to make repairs "subject to conditions and limitations" in express written warranties. In essence, the automaker said, Trusky sued the wrong entity.

"New GM's warranty obligations for vehicles sold by Old GM are limited to the express terms and conditions in the Old GM written warranties on a going-forward basis," wrote Benjamin Jeffers, a lawyer for GM. "New GM did not assume responsibility for Old GM's design choices, conduct, or alleged breaches of liability under the warranty."

David Fink, Trusky's lawyer, declined to comment.

John Penn, a former president of the American Bankruptcy Institute who is not involved in the case, said the question of "successor liability" is common for manufacturing companies that go through bankruptcy.

"The fact it comes up now is not a surprise, as this type of issue was widely discussed during GM's bankruptcy," said Penn, now a partner at Haynes and Boone in Fort Worth, Texas. "The court will need to evaluate the claims to see if they fit within any cubbyhole of liability that New GM assumed."

GM said an argument similar to Trusky's failed this year in a case involving its OnStar security and navigation product.

"There are no specific factual allegations that New GM -- as opposed to Old GM -- did anything at all in relation to her vehicle," Jeffers wrote. "Plaintiff here is trying to saddle new GM with the alleged liability and conduct of old GM."

In late afternoon trading, GM shares were down $1.62 at $21.98 on the New York Stock Exchange.

The case is Trusky v. General Motors Co, U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan, No. 11-12815.
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What a load of BS from GM :ohno: You should get a load of the comments from people.

Re: Another reason not to buy from Govt Motors

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:54 pm
by BDKJMU
And their stock just hit a new low...

Re: Another reason not to buy from Govt Motors

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:51 pm
by Grizalltheway
Honda Motor Company, mafuckers. :thumb:

Re: Another reason not to buy from Govt Motors

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:55 pm
by Rob Iola
Grizalltheway wrote:Honda Motor Company, mafuckers. :thumb:
or even Ford - seriously, why would anyone ever by an overpriced tin can rattletrap from GM?

Re: Another reason not to buy from Govt Motors

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:01 pm
by SuperHornet
Rob Iola wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Honda Motor Company, mafuckers. :thumb:
or even Ford - seriously, why would anyone ever by an overpriced tin can rattletrap from GM?
I know PLENTY of people who would walk right on by it!

:rofl:

Re: Another reason not to buy from Govt Motors

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:59 am
by ∞∞∞
Rob Iola wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Honda Motor Company, mafuckers. :thumb:
or even Ford - seriously, why would anyone ever by an overpriced tin can rattletrap from GM?
Meh, both my parents and my sister have a GM vehicle (2 Saturns and a Chevy) and none of them have been a problem other than a single minor issue we had with one of the Saturns. The only GM vehicle to give us real trouble was the previous generation Saab we had; it had a bunch of recurring electrical gremlins and the interior liked to fall apart randomly lol. I'm the darkhorse of the family as I'm the only one with a non-American vehicle (Mazda), but honestly it's not like my car's been far superior to their current cars.

Interestingly though, the only Ford we ever owned (Focus) suddenly blew its motor at ~100,000 miles.

Re: Another reason not to buy from Govt Motors

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:07 am
by blueballs
Perhaps IvyTalk can help us out with this one but it would seem if the BK discharge and list of creditors didn't have specific language addressing this specfic problem GM is SOL and needs to fix the cars.

Re: Another reason not to buy from Govt Motors

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:45 am
by Ivytalk
blueballs wrote:Perhaps IvyTalk can help us out with this one but it would seem if the BK discharge and list of creditors didn't have specific language addressing this specfic problem GM is SOL and needs to fix the cars.
I yield to the "gentleman" from New York -- or is it New Jersey ? -- JoltinJoe, whose practice includes bankruptcy. 8-)

Re: Another reason not to buy from Govt Motors

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:48 am
by AZGrizFan
Boy, talk about being penny-wise and pound foolish.