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The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:36 pm
by SuperHornet
...and it seems that they're trying to play it off as if they don't want the funds to begin with.

What liars.

:ohno:

TN just joined several other states including WI and NC in doing this.

http://www.lifenews.com/2011/07/05/plan ... tennessee/

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:59 pm
by dbackjon
A bunch of self-righteous morons, shoving their morality down everyone's throats, and doing nothing to help the world, the poor, the sick,

If Jesus was alive today, he'd kick 90% of "Christians" out of his church

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:06 pm
by citdog
dbackjon wrote:A bunch of self-righteous morons, shoving their morality down everyone's throats, and doing nothing to help the world, the poor, the sick,

If Jesus was alive today, he'd kick 90% of "Christians" out of his church

his 'father' knew how to deal with sodomites


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Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:08 pm
by citdog
dbackjon wrote:A bunch of self-righteous FAGS, shoving their AGENDA down everyone's throats, and doing nothing to help the world, the poor, the sick,

If HARVEY MILK was alive today, he'd kick 90% of FAGS out of his church

:thumb:

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:41 pm
by travelinman67
dbackjon wrote:A bunch of self-righteous morons, shoving their morality down everyone's throats, and doing nothing to help the world, the poor, the sick,

If Jesus was alive today, he'd kick 90% of "Christians" out of his church
Since you brought it up...let's talk about MORALITY Jon:

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Anyone who supports the homicide of defenseless infants, for the sake of feminist empowerment...

...has a subhuman level of morality.

Jesus would be telling his followers to "walk the walk" and do what was necessary to protect the children.

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:52 pm
by grizzaholic
travelinman67 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:A bunch of self-righteous morons, shoving their morality down everyone's throats, and doing nothing to help the world, the poor, the sick,

If Jesus was alive today, he'd kick 90% of "Christians" out of his church
Since you brought it up...let's talk about MORALITY Jon:

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Anyone who supports the homicide of defenseless infants, for the sake of feminist empowerment...

...has a subhuman level of morality.

Jesus would be telling his followers to "walk the walk" and do what was necessary to protect the children.

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Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:39 pm
by CID1990
dbackjon wrote:A bunch of self-righteous morons, shoving their morality down everyone's throats, and doing nothing to help the world, the poor, the sick,

If Jesus was alive today, he'd kick 90% of "Christians" out of his church
Since I'm an agnostic, and disapprove of elective abortion based simply on the fact that it is the ending of a life (almost always for convenience and nothing more), I'm not really bothered by the potential that Jesus might disown me.

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:58 pm
by houndawg
CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:A bunch of self-righteous morons, shoving their morality down everyone's throats, and doing nothing to help the world, the poor, the sick,

If Jesus was alive today, he'd kick 90% of "Christians" out of his church
Since I'm an agnostic, and disapprove of elective abortion based simply on the fact that it is the ending of a life (almost always for convenience and nothing more), I'm not really bothered by the potential that Jesus might disown me.
Translation: I don't believe religious nonsense, but I don't have the nads to say so out loud. :coffee:

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:28 am
by OSBF
The tragic flaw in the logic here is that no federal/public money is used for termination of pregnancy procedures, EXCEPT in cases of rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother.



Essentially the arguement being made here is that poor, primarily minority women should be denied access to helth care professionals for "women's" issues.

Arguing that the poor are "more deserving" of ovarian cancer, cervical cancer, endometriosis, etc etc etc.

There go those we love everybody compassionate christians again.

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:04 am
by GannonFan
OSBF wrote:The tragic flaw in the logic here is that no federal/public money is used for termination of pregnancy procedures, EXCEPT in cases of rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother.



Essentially the arguement being made here is that poor, primarily minority women should be denied access to helth care professionals for "women's" issues.

Arguing that the poor are "more deserving" of ovarian cancer, cervical cancer, endometriosis, etc etc etc.

There go those we love everybody compassionate christians again.
The tragic flaw there, of course, is that there's no way to ensure that federal/public money isn't used for termination of pregnancy. If all the money is comingled, it's essentially impossible to separate what money is used for abortions and what isn't. If Planned Parenthood had an entirely separate entity that just did abortions, and there was no fiscal overlap, then the issue would go away entirely - abortions could be funded by other means and the services that Planned Parenthood does provide, especially to the poor, could continue with ample federal/public money. It does make you wonder why such an easy alternative is not pursued, especially if we are really concerned about the access of the poor to proper medical services.

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:51 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Good, I hope 40 states defund this worthless program.

We just need to cut more programs like this and cut spending. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:05 am
by Wedgebuster
I'm guessing that state sponsored kindergarten for crack babies is a more affordable alternative?

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:39 am
by OSBF
Wedgebuster wrote:I'm guessing that state sponsored kindergarten for crack babies is a more affordable alternative?
State funded welfare programs.

That's where the children of the women that die of cancer because preventative/diagnostic health care was taken away from them will end up.

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:58 am
by CitadelGrad
I fully support the abortion of children who are not of Caucasian parentage.

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:03 am
by OSBF
CitadelGrad wrote:I fully support the abortion of children who are not of Caucasian parentage.
Thank you

I have long thought you are little more than a piece of shit

Now you have removed all doubt

Take a look at your calander(if you can read one)

It's 2011, not 1811

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:04 am
by citdog
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Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:38 pm
by travelinman67
OSBF wrote:The tragic flaw in the logic here is that no federal/public money is used for termination of pregnancy procedures, EXCEPT in cases of rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother.



Essentially the arguement being made here is that poor, primarily minority women should be denied access to helth care professionals for "women's" issues.

Arguing that the poor are "more deserving" of ovarian cancer, cervical cancer, endometriosis, etc etc etc.

There go those we love everybody compassionate christians again.
First, the funds are comingled, as GF pointed out and has been proven here on other threads.

Second, why are taxpayer dollars used to support a gender discriminatory program. As with Title IX, for every dollar spent supporting a gender specific (women's) program, an equal amount should be spent on men's health programs. Clearly, by funding PP, the Federal government has codified a discriminatory policy against males. Until such time, then PP should be defunded.

As for the poor...this is a cost-effective "business" decision. Since the poor are more costly to maintain from a taxpayer perspective, then they should be the first to target during budget cuts: Less poor = more efficient expenditure of tax moneys.

Learn to use proper grammar or punctuation, OSBF. "There go those we love everybody compassionate christians again.", I believe your intent was to write, "There go those, "We Love Everybody" compassionate Christians, again.", or maybe you meant to write, "There! Go. Those "We Love Everybody Compassionate Christians", again."

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:09 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
OSBF wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:I fully support the abortion of children who are not of Caucasian parentage.
Thank you

I have long thought you are little more than a piece of shit

Now you have removed all doubt

Take a look at your calander(if you can read one)

It's 2011, not 1811

How on GODs green earth can you call him a POS for that comment and act like its race based?

He obviously meant he doesnt want to burden young black mothers with the mistakes 7 out of 10 make, this allows them to educate themselves, get jobs and then take care of their families. His comments were sympathy based not race based. Grow up.

I really fu*king hate people like you that pull the race card every time you lose a conversation.

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:58 pm
by CitadelGrad
OSBF wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:I fully support the abortion of children who are not of Caucasian parentage.
Thank you

I have long thought you are little more than a piece of shit

Now you have removed all doubt

Take a look at your calander(if you can read one)

It's 2011, not 1811
Um, you do know why Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger, don't you?

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:55 pm
by Ursus A. Horribilis
OSBF wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:I fully support the abortion of children who are not of Caucasian parentage.
Thank you

I have long thought you are little more than a piece of shit

Now you have removed all doubt

Take a look at your calander(if you can read one)

It's 2011, not 1811
It is always odd to me when this kind of thing occurs. He said he supports what you support, yet he is a piece of shit because you perceive his support to come from a different place than yours does.

Your perception of his reason may be correct or not but this makes him a piece of shit although the end result no matter what your perception is exactly the same.

A mother and a father get out of a pickle they got themselves into and a baby is exterminated for that purpose.

You of course are not a piece of shit for this. You are a lofty individual.

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:11 pm
by dbackjon
CitadelGrad wrote:
OSBF wrote:
Thank you

I have long thought you are little more than a piece of shit

Now you have removed all doubt

Take a look at your calander(if you can read one)

It's 2011, not 1811
Um, you do know why Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger, don't you?

And?

You do know that the United States was founded by a bunch of mysoginstic, racist slave-owners, right?

and that people always have to follow the exact ideals of the founders, with no evolution of thought allowed, right?

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:30 pm
by citdog
dbackjon wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
Um, you do know why Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger, don't you?

And?

You do know that the United States was founded by a bunch of mysoginstic, racist slave-owners, right?

and that people always have to follow the exact ideals of the founders, with no evolution of thought allowed, right?

PP was founded to exterminate darkie children before they leave the womb.


I'll trust

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Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:36 pm
by 93henfan
Seriously? Only one picture of a diced-up infant so far? You religio-whacks disappoint me.

MORE PLEASE! (and a little more blood if possible)

Catamount Man, are you reading this thread?

Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:47 pm
by griz37
Just got back from the Missoula PP where I was able pick up some delicious veal for a pretty fair price.

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Re: The De-Funding of PP has begun...

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:58 pm
by CID1990
houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Since I'm an agnostic, and disapprove of elective abortion based simply on the fact that it is the ending of a life (almost always for convenience and nothing more), I'm not really bothered by the potential that Jesus might disown me.
Translation: I don't believe religious nonsense, but I don't have the nads to say so out loud. :coffee:
Nah. It's more like:

Translation: My opposition to elective abortion is not based in religious conviction.