My favorite memories of Mr. Gore are of him standing behind and to the side while President Clinton was making some speech or statement. That's right, Gore with an expressionless face, looking like a big stupid tree.
As little regard as I have for George Bush the younger, his greatest accomplishment may prove to have been keeping the moronic Gore out of the White House.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:46 am
by CitadelGrad
It's absurd that Mead doesn't believe Gore is a hypocrite. His vices (except for the masseuse molestation) and putative virtues are both related to his environmentalism. Hypocrisy and the belief that public virtue cancels private vice aren't mutually exclusive.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:55 am
by CitadelGrad
TheDancinMonarch wrote:My favorite memories of Mr. Gore are of him standing behind and to the side while President Clinton was making some speech or statement. That's right, Gore with an expressionless face, looking like a big stupid tree.
As little regard as I have for George Bush the younger, his greatest accomplishment may prove to have been keeping the moronic Gore out of the White House.
My favorite Gore image is one of him campaigning in rural New Hampshire while wearing a new, clean and perfectly pressed plaid flannel shirt. He was surrounded by a group of snickering rural mountain men whose plaid flannel shirts were considerably older, not clean and certainly not professionally pressed.
The best part is that Gore's typically expressionless face made it clear that he did not realize he was the butt of a joke.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:31 am
by DJH
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Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:59 am
by Bronco
Global Warming Expert Al Gore Got a “D” in Natural Sciences at Harvard…
Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale. That was the year Gore's classmates remember him spending a notable amount of time in the Dunster House basement lounge shooting pool, watching television, eating hamburgers and occasionally smoking marijuana.
Sounds a lot like Obama's formative years except he's afarid to share his grades so his followers can continue to believe he's smart...suckers
TheDancinMonarch wrote:My favorite memories of Mr. Gore are of him standing behind and to the side while President Clinton was making some speech or statement. That's right, Gore with an expressionless face, looking like a big stupid tree.
As little regard as I have for George Bush the younger, his greatest accomplishment may prove to have been keeping the moronic Gore out of the White House.
Prove it!
(Gore for his hypocrisy and douchebaggery is a genius by comparison)
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:19 pm
by BlueHen86
Al Gore never had a chance, very few people take him seriously.
The environment is a worthwhile cause, but Gore is too polarizing to be an effective spokesman.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:19 pm
by TheDancinMonarch
kalm wrote:
TheDancinMonarch wrote:My favorite memories of Mr. Gore are of him standing behind and to the side while President Clinton was making some speech or statement. That's right, Gore with an expressionless face, looking like a big stupid tree.
As little regard as I have for George Bush the younger, his greatest accomplishment may prove to have been keeping the moronic Gore out of the White House.
Prove it!
(Gore for his hypocrisy and douchebaggery is a genius by comparison)
Prove what? That that is my favorite memory of Gore or that Bush kept Gore out of the White House?
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:19 pm
by AZGrizFan
CitadelGrad wrote:It's absurd that Mead doesn't believe Gore is a hypocrite. His vices (except for the masseuse molestation) and putative virtues are both related to his environmentalism. Hypocrisy and the belief that public virtue cancels private vice aren't mutually exclusive.
You can be a leading environmentalist and fail to pay all of your taxes. You can be a leading environmentalist and be unkind to your aged mother. You can be a leading environmentalist and squeeze the toothpaste tube from the middle, park in the handicapped spots at the mall or scribble angry marginal notes in library books.
But you cannot be a leading environmentalist who hopes to lead the general public into a long and difficult struggle for sacrifice and fundamental change if your own conduct is so flagrantly inconsistent with the green gospel you profess. If the heart of your message is that the peril of climate change is so imminent and so overwhelming that the entire political and social system of the world must change, now, you cannot fly on private jets. You cannot own multiple mansions. You cannot even become enormously rich investing in companies that will profit if the policies you advocate are put into place.
It is not enough to buy carbon offsets (aka “indulgences”) with your vast wealth, not enough to power your luxurious mansions with exotic low impact energy sources the average person could not afford, not enough to argue that you only needed the jet so that you could promote your earth-saving film.
You are asking billions of people, the overwhelming majority of whom lack many of the basic life amenities you take for granted, people who can’t afford Whole Foods environmentalism, to slash their meager living standards. You may well be right, and those changes may be necessary — the more shame on you that with your superior insight and knowledge you refuse to live a modest life. There’s a gospel hymn some people in Tennessee still sing that makes the point: “You can’t be a beacon if your light don’t shine.”
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:20 pm
by AZGrizFan
TheDancinMonarch wrote:
kalm wrote:
Prove it!
(Gore for his hypocrisy and douchebaggery is a genius by comparison)
Prove what? That that is my favorite memory of Gore or that Bush kept Gore out of the White House?
Prove that it's your favorite memory of Gore!
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:24 pm
by kalm
AZGrizFan wrote:
TheDancinMonarch wrote:
Prove what? That that is my favorite memory of Gore or that Bush kept Gore out of the White House?
Prove that it's your favorite memory of Gore!
Prove that Bush's greates accomplishment was keeping Gore out of office.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:25 pm
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Prove that it's your favorite memory of Gore!
Prove that Bush's greates accomplishment was keeping Gore out of office.
I can't think of anything greater, unless it's keeping John Kerry out of the White House.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:43 pm
by kalm
AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Prove that Bush's greates accomplishment was keeping Gore out of office.
I can't think of anything greater, unless it's keeping John Kerry out of the White House.
I'm sure you can't.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:55 pm
by BlueHen86
TheDancinMonarch wrote:My favorite memories of Mr. Gore are of him standing behind and to the side while President Clinton was making some speech or statement. That's right, Gore with an expressionless face, looking like a big stupid tree.
As little regard as I have for George Bush the younger, his greatest accomplishment may prove to have been keeping the moronic Gore out of the White House.
Interesting hypothetical there. I don't think Gore could have done any worse and if he doesn't invade Iraq we may be better off. We'll never know, but it tells you a lot about the state of things when our choices in 2000 and 2004 were Gore, Kerry and Bush.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:16 pm
by Ivytalk
Being unable to carry his home state in 2000 -- costing himself the election -- told me all I ever needed to know about Gore. Hell, even Mondale carried his home state!
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:25 pm
by bulldog10jw
BlueHen86 wrote: but it tells you a lot about the state of things when our choices in 2000 and 2004 were Gore, Kerry and Bush.
Our choices certainly didn't get any better in 2008
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:30 pm
by bulldog10jw
kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Prove that it's your favorite memory of Gore!
Prove that Bush's greates accomplishment was keeping Gore out of office.
If Gore had been elected, we would have two more liberal Supreme Court justices trying to legislate from the bench.
Thank you, W
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:32 pm
by kalm
bulldog10jw wrote:
kalm wrote:
Prove that Bush's greates accomplishment was keeping Gore out of office.
If Gore had been elected, we would have two more liberal Supreme Court justices trying to legislate from the bench.
Thank you, W
Now that's funny.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:42 pm
by travelinman67
TheDancinMonarch wrote:My favorite memories of Mr. Gore are of him standing behind and to the side while President Clinton was making some speech or statement. That's right, Gore with an expressionless face, looking like a big stupid tree.
As little regard as I have for George Bush the younger, his greatest accomplishment may prove to have been keeping the moronic Gore out of the White House.
Agreed.
Posted my observations on this before...but much of my distrust/disrespect of Al Gore's politics grew from his foreign trade skullduggery in Congress and the early years in the WH. Much of the China trade imbalance grew out of trade agreements signed off by Senator/VP Gore. I recall reading a State Dept. report on the '92 Nafta/WTO package of which Gore was a key architect...and was left aghast, wondering if Gore was a real-life "Manchurian Candidate" planted to disrupt the U.S. economy.
REALLY!
Few liberals know, and those that do cowardly refuse to acknowledge, that the bulk of Gore's foreign policies read as though they were drafted by the other country. There is NO DOUBT, that Gore is either consciously attempting to derail America's prosperity and and fiscal stability, or he is an epic idiot.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:44 pm
by TheDancinMonarch
kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Prove that it's your favorite memory of Gore!
Prove that Bush's greates accomplishment was keeping Gore out of office.
Keeping him out of the White House. Not out of office. And it's my opinion. You are entitled to yours.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:52 pm
by kalm
TheDancinMonarch wrote:
kalm wrote:
Prove that Bush's greates accomplishment was keeping Gore out of office.
Keeping him out of the White House. Not out of office. And it's my opinion. You are entitled to yours.
Well thank you
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:09 pm
by BlueHen86
bulldog10jw wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote: but it tells you a lot about the state of things when our choices in 2000 and 2004 were Gore, Kerry and Bush.
Our choices certainly didn't get any better in 2008
I thought they did. I liked McCain, although I liked him better in 2000. I thought Obama was a better choice than Gore, Kerry or Bush, granted the bar was low, but he was an improvement.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:16 pm
by BlueHen86
bulldog10jw wrote:
kalm wrote:
Prove that Bush's greates accomplishment was keeping Gore out of office.
If Gore had been elected, we would have two more liberal Supreme Court justices trying to legislate from the bench.
Thank you, W
As opposed to Conservative judges legislating from the bench. Given the choice, I'll take the liberals.
Re: The failure of Al Gore
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:18 pm
by bulldog10jw
BlueHen86 wrote: I thought Obama was a better choice than Gore, Kerry or Bush, granted the bar was low, but he was an improvement.
Maybe the bar was low, but Obama certainly managed to limbo under it.
