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Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:48 pm
by SuperHornet
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:53 pm
by AZGrizFan
Oh.
Well.
If KATHY IRELAND says it, i'm fully on board.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:02 pm
by citdog
is it any shock you like her?

Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:15 pm
by JohnStOnge
AZGrizFan wrote:Oh.
Well.
If KATHY IRELAND says it, i'm fully on board.
Well...that's not the reason you should be fully on board. It is absolutely ridiculous that the Federal government is funding Planned Parenthood.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:25 pm
by grizzaholic
SMFH.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:18 pm
by Baldy
JohnStOnge wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:Oh.
Well.
If KATHY IRELAND says it, i'm fully on board.
Well...that's not the reason you should be fully on board. It is absolutely ridiculous that the Federal government is funding Planned Parenthood.
Can't really argue with this. If the gubment is gonna fund PP, they might as well fund the Boy and Girl Scouts, Big Brothers and Sisters, Boys & Girl Clubs, St. Jude's, etc, etc, etc...
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:22 pm
by kalm
Baldy wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
Well...that's not the reason you should be fully on board. It is absolutely ridiculous that the Federal government is funding Planned Parenthood.
Can't really argue with this. If the gubment is gonna fund PP, they might as well fund the Boy and Girl Scouts, Big Brothers and Sisters, Boys & Girl Clubs, St. Jude's, etc, etc, etc...
...Lockheed Martin, Monsanto, Exxon, Boeing, Blackwater, Fannie and Freddie...

Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:24 pm
by D1B
Baldy wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
Well...that's not the reason you should be fully on board. It is absolutely ridiculous that the Federal government is funding Planned Parenthood.
Can't really argue with this. If the gubment is gonna fund PP, they might as well fund the Boy and Girl Scouts, Big Brothers and Sisters, Boys & Girl Clubs, St. Jude's, etc, etc, etc...
The gubment funds cynical rich white fucks and giant corps with billions every year. Talk about a waste of tax dollars.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:31 pm
by D1B
kalm wrote:Baldy wrote:
Can't really argue with this. If the gubment is gonna fund PP, they might as well fund the Boy and Girl Scouts, Big Brothers and Sisters, Boys & Girl Clubs, St. Jude's, etc, etc, etc...
...Lockheed Martin, Monsanto, Exxon, Boeing, Blackwater, Fannie and Freddie...

...white, middle and upper class tax cheats
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:56 am
by travelinman67
D1B wrote:kalm wrote:
...Lockheed Martin, Monsanto, Exxon, Boeing, Blackwater, Fannie and Freddie...

...white, middle and upper class tax cheats
...soulless, amoral doctors who commit murder for profit.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:08 am
by JohnStOnge
...Lockheed Martin, Monsanto, Exxon, Boeing, Blackwater, Fannie and Freddie.
You've reminded me that I need to look some stuff up about "subsidies" to companies like that. I suspect that most if not all of what people refer to when they talk about "subsidies" to the oil companies, for instance, consists of "tax breaks."
You are nto giving someone who is paying billions of dollars in taxes anything by giving them a "tax break." You are simply taking less from them. It's like if a schoolyard bully goes over to a smaller kid every school day and says, "give me a dollar or I'll beat you up" so the small kid gives him a dollar. Then one day the big kid says, if you smile at me before I take your money you only have to give me 50 cents. So the kid starts smiling at him.
The bully didn't "give" that small kid 50 cents per day because he's no longer taking a dollar per day from from him and instead is taking 50 cents. He's just taking less of his money.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:19 am
by JohnStOnge
Ok. That didn't take long. I went to Wikipedia first so I'll have to verify the info but it appears to be as I suspected. This is what I got from the Wikipedia article at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :
"The United States government provides a large subsidy to oil companies, with major tax breaks at virtually every stage of oil exploration and extraction. Capital expenses, including the costs of oil field leases and drilling equipment, are taxed at an effective rate of nine percent, which is a much lower rate than the 25% rate for general business taxes and lower than the taxes of virtually any other industry, according to a 2005 study by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office. For example, while the Deepwater Horizon oil rig was registered in the Marshall Islands, since registering off-shore lowered the U.S. tax liability, the U.S. government was giving the rig's owner, British Petroleum (BP), a major tax break when BP leased the rig: 70% of the rent was written off in the form of a tax break used only by the oil industry, for a tax deduction of more than $225,000 per day from the day the lease began."
So, as I suspected, it looks like it's the same old nonsense of saying that government allowing people to keep their own money instead of having their blood sucked is "giving" them something. It's not.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:48 am
by TwinTownBisonFan
This is right up there with Matt Damon lecturing me about climate change...
Also, IIRC KI never posed nude... I care even less as a result.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:54 am
by SDHornet
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
This is right up there with Matt Damon lecturing me about climate change...
Also, IIRC KI never posed nude... I care even less as a result.

Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:21 am
by JoltinJoe
You have to admire the way she speaks out for her beliefs given that she works in an industry that generally considers Planned Parenthood to be a secular church.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:47 am
by grizzaholic
JoltinJoe wrote:You have to admire the way she speaks out for her beliefs given that she works in an industry that generally considers Planned Parenthood to be a secular church.
I will admire her when she takes her clothes off and posts the pics on the internet.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:59 pm
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:Ok. That didn't take long. I went to Wikipedia first so I'll have to verify the info but it appears to be as I suspected. This is what I got from the Wikipedia article at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :
"The United States government provides a large subsidy to oil companies, with major tax breaks at virtually every stage of oil exploration and extraction. Capital expenses, including the costs of oil field leases and drilling equipment, are taxed at an effective rate of nine percent, which is a much lower rate than the 25% rate for general business taxes and lower than the taxes of virtually any other industry, according to a 2005 study by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office. For example, while the Deepwater Horizon oil rig was registered in the Marshall Islands, since registering off-shore lowered the U.S. tax liability, the U.S. government was giving the rig's owner, British Petroleum (BP), a major tax break when BP leased the rig: 70% of the rent was written off in the form of a tax break used only by the oil industry, for a tax deduction of more than $225,000 per day from the day the lease began."
So, as I suspected, it looks like it's the same old nonsense of saying that government allowing people to keep their own money instead of having their blood sucked is "giving" them something. It's not.
You say tomato...
If an industry pays less than the standard tax rate they are being subsidized. If they externalize the environmental, infrastructure, health, and military related costs of their product, they are being subsidized. Sorry for your confusion.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:03 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:47 pm
by Ivytalk
Kathy who?
I hit the "recommend" key by mistake...my bad.
Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:01 pm
by D1B
JoltinJoe wrote:You have to admire the way she speaks out for her beliefs given that she works in an industry that generally considers Planned Parenthood to be a secular church.
PP has done more to reduce abortions than the fucking catholic church.
If altar boys could get pregnant, the catholic church would consider abortion a holy sacrament.

Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:12 pm
by D1B
travelinman67 wrote:D1B wrote:
...white, middle and upper class tax cheats
...soulless, amoral doctors who commit murder for profit.
Yeah, T, we've been through this. It's murder to you and the rest of dopes here. You do realize your god is the most prolific abortionist ever.
What kind of god creates abortion factories out of our women?

Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:26 am
by travelinman67
D1B wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
...soulless, amoral doctors who commit murder for profit.
Yeah, T, we've been through this. It's murder to you and the rest of dopes here. You do realize your god is the most prolific abortionist ever.
What kind of god creates abortion factories out of our women?

Since you don't know what's in the minds of the women who miscarry, you'll never know what was behind the intelligent design.
Ooops! My mistake. I forgot you know everything.

Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:29 am
by Wedgebuster
"Yay"

Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:47 am
by 89Hen
D1B wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
...soulless, amoral doctors who commit murder for profit.
Yeah, T, we've been through this. It's murder to you and the rest of dopes here. You do realize your god is the most prolific abortionist ever.
What kind of god creates abortion factories out of our women?

What, for six years you've been saying this and it still isn't any more true today. Get some new material.

Re: Kathy Ireland Calls for Congress to Defund PP
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:12 am
by Appaholic