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WikiLeaks bolsters argument for ‘enhanced’ interrogation tactics

"WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s ongoing release of the Guantanamo Bay prison files, and large numbers of classified State Department cables, attempts to expose what he calls American corruption.

But supporters of the George W. Bush administration’s global war on terrorism say the nearly 800 Guantanamo files show that “enhanced” interrogations of hundreds of captured operatives at secret overseas prisons and at the Cuban prison amounted to one of the most successful intelligence operations in history.

Before the interrogations, the U.S. knew little about al Qaeda in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Years later, the CIA and military had accumulated a large database of ongoing plots and the identities of terrorists, the WikiLeaks files show.

“The WikiLeaks documents provide still additional evidence that intelligence gained from CIA detainees not only helped lead us to Osama bin Laden, it helped us disrupt a number of follow-on attacks that had been set in motion after 9/11,” said Marc Thiessen, a former Bush speechwriter.

“Without this program, we would not have gone nearly 10 years without another catastrophic attack on the homeland. This is quite possibly the most important, and most successful, intelligence program in modern times. But instead of medals, the people behind this program have been given subpoenas.”

He was referring to Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.’s launch of a criminal investigation of CIA officers who conducted the “enhanced” interrogations, some of which the Obama administration has dubbed “torture.”

The killing of Osama bin Laden underscores the value of the vast intelligence database. The treasure trove of information includes the identities of terrorists operating abroad, plots to kill civilians and details on how al Qaeda used a network of couriers for clandestine communication.

Public disclosure of the interrogation windfall began in April by the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks, which obtained hundreds of classified U.S. reports on detainees written by Joint Task Force Guantanamo, the military unit in charge of the prison at U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

As of Thursday, WikiLeaks had released 765 of 779 Gitmo files.

The files show that prisoner Abu Farajal al-Libi, al Qaeda’s No. 3 and a close aide to bin Laden, first disclosed the terrorist master’s special courier to the CIA. It was the agency’s ability to find and track the messenger that ultimately led a team of Navy SEALs to bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where he was killed early on May 2."

Torture is good and we now have the weapon which will win the "war on terror"

Of course some pussy like you will be the first to start whimpering when somebody on our side gets their head cut off on TV.

houndawg wrote:Torture is good and we now have the weapon which will win the "war on terror"

Of course some pussy like you will be the first to start whimpering when somebody on our side gets their head cut off on TV.

You're the infected pussy whimpering right here right now about enhanced interrogations.
The last American beheaded on TV was 8 fucking years ago, Methuselah, and it wasn't because of Gitmo.

Let's make a rule.

NO worrying about what a bunch of Muslims are going to do to us based on what WE do. That's just hand wringer pu$$y talk right there.

CID1990 wrote:Let's make a rule.

NO worrying about what a bunch of Muslims are going to do to us based on what WE do. That's just hand wringer pu$$y talk right there.

Nobody is worrying about that, silly; they already gave us their best shot and we, at long last, dealt with the mfic of giving us their best shot. If we're going to make torture part of our foreign policy, fine; but lets at least not subject the planet to our puerile sniveling about the superiority of our system while we do it.

Hell, let's let the local cops use it too, we could have a 100% conviction rate.

Baldy wrote:

WikiLeaks bolsters argument for ‘enhanced’ interrogation tactics

"WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s ongoing release of the Guantanamo Bay prison files, and large numbers of classified State Department cables, attempts to expose what he calls American corruption.

But supporters of the George W. Bush administration’s global war on terrorism say the nearly 800 Guantanamo files show that “enhanced” interrogations of hundreds of captured operatives at secret overseas prisons and at the Cuban prison amounted to one of the most successful intelligence operations in history.

Before the interrogations, the U.S. knew little about al Qaeda in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Years later, the CIA and military had accumulated a large database of ongoing plots and the identities of terrorists, the WikiLeaks files show.

“The WikiLeaks documents provide still additional evidence that intelligence gained from CIA detainees not only helped lead us to Osama bin Laden, it helped us disrupt a number of follow-on attacks that had been set in motion after 9/11,” said Marc Thiessen, a former Bush speechwriter.

“Without this program, we would not have gone nearly 10 years without another catastrophic attack on the homeland. This is quite possibly the most important, and most successful, intelligence program in modern times. But instead of medals, the people behind this program have been given subpoenas.”

He was referring to Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.’s launch of a criminal investigation of CIA officers who conducted the “enhanced” interrogations, some of which the Obama administration has dubbed “torture.”

The killing of Osama bin Laden underscores the value of the vast intelligence database. The treasure trove of information includes the identities of terrorists operating abroad, plots to kill civilians and details on how al Qaeda used a network of couriers for clandestine communication.

Public disclosure of the interrogation windfall began in April by the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks, which obtained hundreds of classified U.S. reports on detainees written by Joint Task Force Guantanamo, the military unit in charge of the prison at U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

As of Thursday, WikiLeaks had released 765 of 779 Gitmo files.

The files show that prisoner Abu Farajal al-Libi, al Qaeda’s No. 3 and a close aide to bin Laden, first disclosed the terrorist master’s special courier to the CIA. It was the agency’s ability to find and track the messenger that ultimately led a team of Navy SEALs to bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where he was killed early on May 2."

So the "Bush supporters" say that huh?

Shocker.

houndawg wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Let's make a rule.

NO worrying about what a bunch of Muslims are going to do to us based on what WE do. That's just hand wringer pu$$y talk right there.

Nobody is worrying about that, silly; they already gave us their best shot and we, at long last, dealt with the mfic of giving us their best shot. If we're going to make torture part of our foreign policy, fine; but lets at least not subject the planet to our puerile sniveling about the superiority of our system while we do it.

Hell, let's let the local cops use it too, we could have a 100% conviction rate.

It isn't torture, HD. Torture is against international law.

kalm wrote:

Baldy wrote:

WikiLeaks bolsters argument for ‘enhanced’ interrogation tactics

"WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s ongoing release of the Guantanamo Bay prison files, and large numbers of classified State Department cables, attempts to expose what he calls American corruption.

But supporters of the George W. Bush administration’s global war on terrorism say the nearly 800 Guantanamo files show that “enhanced” interrogations of hundreds of captured operatives at secret overseas prisons and at the Cuban prison amounted to one of the most successful intelligence operations in history.

Before the interrogations, the U.S. knew little about al Qaeda in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Years later, the CIA and military had accumulated a large database of ongoing plots and the identities of terrorists, the WikiLeaks files show.

“The WikiLeaks documents provide still additional evidence that intelligence gained from CIA detainees not only helped lead us to Osama bin Laden, it helped us disrupt a number of follow-on attacks that had been set in motion after 9/11,” said Marc Thiessen, a former Bush speechwriter.

“Without this program, we would not have gone nearly 10 years without another catastrophic attack on the homeland. This is quite possibly the most important, and most successful, intelligence program in modern times. But instead of medals, the people behind this program have been given subpoenas.”

He was referring to Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.’s launch of a criminal investigation of CIA officers who conducted the “enhanced” interrogations, some of which the Obama administration has dubbed “torture.”

The killing of Osama bin Laden underscores the value of the vast intelligence database. The treasure trove of information includes the identities of terrorists operating abroad, plots to kill civilians and details on how al Qaeda used a network of couriers for clandestine communication.

Public disclosure of the interrogation windfall began in April by the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks, which obtained hundreds of classified U.S. reports on detainees written by Joint Task Force Guantanamo, the military unit in charge of the prison at U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

As of Thursday, WikiLeaks had released 765 of 779 Gitmo files.

The files show that prisoner Abu Farajal al-Libi, al Qaeda’s No. 3 and a close aide to bin Laden, first disclosed the terrorist master’s special courier to the CIA. It was the agency’s ability to find and track the messenger that ultimately led a team of Navy SEALs to bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where he was killed early on May 2."

So the "Bush supporters" say that huh?

Shocker.

Well, if bin Laden were still alive, I'm pretty sure he could verify it for you.

I see ZERO problems with it.

CID1990 wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Nobody is worrying about that, silly; they already gave us their best shot and we, at long last, dealt with the mfic of giving us their best shot. If we're going to make torture part of our foreign policy, fine; but lets at least not subject the planet to our puerile sniveling about the superiority of our system while we do it.

Hell, let's let the local cops use it too, we could have a 100% conviction rate.

It isn't torture, HD. Torture is against international law.

To the Vagina Diaries crowd, loud rock-n-roll music, sleep deprivation, giving the dirty Muslims a bath, and making them use toilet paper is torture, too.

Baldy wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
It isn't torture, HD. Torture is against international law.

To the Vagina Diaries crowd, loud rock-n-roll music, sleep deprivation, giving the dirty Muslims a bath, and making them use toilet paper is torture, too.

There's nothing finer than the smell of bacon in the morning...

We hanged Japanese soldiers for water boarding our troops. That was so unfair.

kalm wrote:We hanged Japanese soldiers for water boarding our troops. That was so unfair.

Those Japanese soldiers also used US POW's for bayonet drills, decapitation contests, slave labor, and many other illegal activities, but yes they were only hanged for waterboarding our troops. It's all the same.

grizzaholic wrote:I see ZERO problems with it.

Same here.

kalm wrote:We hanged Japanese soldiers for water boarding our troops. That was so unfair.

If waterboarding was all they had done they would not have dangled.

BDKJMU wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:I see ZERO problems with it.

Same here.

Ditto



Play by their rules

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
Same here.

Ditto



Play by their rules

Yeah it's about time we start targeting civilians, crash predator drones into some mid east skyscrapers, be-head some of these motherfuckers. That'll learn 'em.

kalm wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Ditto



Play by their rules

Yeah it's about time we start targeting civilians, crash predator drones into some mid east skyscrapers, be-head some of these motherfuckers. That'll learn 'em.

Well, NOT doing those things have certainly kept us sheltered and protected.....

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
Same here.

Ditto



Play by their rules

Means they're calling the shots.

Appaholic wrote:

kalm wrote:
Yeah it's about time we start targeting civilians, crash predator drones into some mid east skyscrapers, be-head some of these motherfuckers. That'll learn 'em.

Well, NOT doing those things have certainly kept us sheltered and protected.....

No way. We should strive to be just like them.

houndawg wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Ditto



Play by their rules

Means they're calling the shots.

We keep fighting by a different set of rules....and we keep draggin' this shit out. Get in. Get serious. Get dirty. GTFO.

AZGrizFan wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Means they're calling the shots.

We keep fighting by a different set of rules....and we keep draggin' this **** out. Get in. Get serious. Get dirty. GTFO.

Fine and dandy, Z. Some of our resident chickenhawks aren't stopping to think about the implications for our guys, is all I'm trying to point out. Couple of SEALs get caught and 'boarded and BD and gizzaholic will be the first to bleat with outrage...

houndawg wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
We keep fighting by a different set of rules....and we keep draggin' this **** out. Get in. Get serious. Get dirty. GTFO.

Fine and dandy, Z. Some of our resident chickenhawks aren't stopping to think about the implications for our guys, is all I'm trying to point out. Couple of SEALs get caught and 'boarded and BD and gizzaholic will be the first to bleat with outrage...

Yes, let's not fight to win because of the potential 'implications'.