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Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patients

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:53 am
by travelinman67
Some ob-gyns in South Florida turn away overweight women
Ethics advocates call practice disturbing

By Bob LaMendola, Sun Sentinel
May 16, 2011


http://www.latimes.com/health/fl-hk-no- ... 2289.story
In a nation with 93 million obese people, a few ob-gyn doctors in South Florida now refuse to see otherwise healthy women solely because they are overweight.

Fifteen obstetrics-gynecology practices out of 105 polled by the Sun Sentinel said they have set weight cut-offs for new patients starting at 200 pounds or based on measures of obesity — and turn down women who are heavier.

Some of the doctors said the main reason was their exam tables or other equipment can't handle people over a certain weight. But at least six said they were trying to avoid obese patients because they have a higher risk of complications.

"People don't realize the risk we're taking by taking care of these patients," said Dr. Albert Triana, whose two-physician practice in South Miami declines patients classified as obese. "There's more risk of something going wrong and more risk of getting sued. Everything is more complicated with an obese patient in GYN surgeries and in [pregnancies]."

Plantation ob-gyn partners Jeffrey Solomon and Isabel Otero-Echandi turn down any woman weighing more than 250 pounds.

Solomon and Otero don't want to begin seeing heavy women and then have to send them to specialists if they later develop problems, said their office manager, who asked not to be named. The two doctors, like several of the others with weight cutoffs, declined to comment.

"This is not a high-risk practice," the office manager said. "They are not experts in obesity."

Turning down overweight people is not illegal for doctors, but the policy worried leaders of physician groups, medical ethics experts and advocates for the obese, all of whom said it violates the spirit of the medical profession.

"If I had that policy, I wouldn't have a practice. I'd lose half my patients," said Dr. Maureen Whelihan, a West Palm Beach ob-gyn. "We never turn down anyone. We would see them, and if we had to, we would refer them to a specialist."

Leaders of eight local, state and national medical associations said they had never heard of doctors turning away patients solely because of weight. Several said obese people with no other health issues do not need special treatment.

"No doctor should be unable to treat patients just because they are heavy," said Dr. Bruce Zafran, a Coral Springs ob-gyn.

So far, the weight cutoffs have been enacted only by South Florida ob-gyns, who have long complained of high numbers of lawsuits after difficult births and high rates for medical-malpractice insurance. More than half go without coverage.

Ob-gyns for years have declined to see pregnant women who are overweight, typically sending them to specialists. It's new for them to turn down overweight women who are not pregnant, physician groups said.

Several ob-gyn offices said their ultrasound machines do not give good images of internal anatomy in obese women, making it harder to diagnose some medical problems.

The Plantation office manager said weight limits are not uncommon at offices owned, like hers, by the Coconut Grove medical services company VitalMD.

VitalMD treasurer Kerry Kuhn, an ob-gyn in Coral Springs, said he was unaware of his doctors setting weight limits, adding the company has nothing to do with doctor decisions.

"This is individual choice by a doctor," Kuhn said. "Doctors know who they want to treat."

Physicians, like any business, can decline service to whomever they choose for any reason — including personality conflicts — as long as it's not discriminatory. The American Medical Association advises doctors that they cannot reject patients because of race, gender, sexual orientation or infectious diseases.

Doctors also are allowed to drop patients, if they believe they lack the medical skills to properly treat them. They must send notices and refer them to other doctors.

But decisions about patients typically are made after assessing the individual's condition during an exam, not by ruling out an entire group, said Dr. Robert Yelverton, a board member of the Florida Obstetric and Gynecologic Society. He said he would discourage physicians from excluding the obese.

"Do I think it's a good policy? No," Yelverton said. "Overweight people need doctors. I don't know where a patient in that situation would go if every practice had that policy."

The AMA and the ob-gyn group declined to comment on doctors setting weight limits. A spokesman for the Obesity Action Coalition in Tampa said the restrictions sound like discrimination.

"This completely goes against the principles of being a doctor," James Zervios said. "Health care professionals are there to help individuals improve their quality of health, not stigmatize them according to their weight."
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Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:58 am
by TwinTownBisonFan
From the Hippocratic Oath to "No fat chicks"... love to see the evolution in modern medicine... stay classy docs...

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:08 am
by bandl
Stop fucking the fat chicks, TJ! :tothehand:

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:11 am
by Grizalltheway
bandl wrote:Stop fucking the fat chicks, TJ! :tothehand:
Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly, TJ gotta get somma that fat cream pie.

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:12 am
by travelinman67
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:From the Hippocratic Oath to "No fat chicks"... love to see the evolution in modern medicine... stay classy docs...
Vitter, Samford, Ensign, Schwarznegger...

...all Republicans; all sleep around...

...multiple partner, promiscuous people have a higher rate of potentially fatal STD's...

...stop treating Republicans.

:thumb:

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:29 am
by GannonFan
travelinman67 wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:From the Hippocratic Oath to "No fat chicks"... love to see the evolution in modern medicine... stay classy docs...
Vitter, Samford, Ensign, Schwarznegger...

...all Republicans; all sleep around...

...multiple partner, promiscuous people have a higher rate of potentially fatal STD's...

...stop treating Republicans.

:thumb:
Edwards, Clinton, Gary Hart, Jim McGreevey - all Dems, all sleep around.

Common thread is they are all politicians. Stop treating politicians might be something I could agree with. :thumb:

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:21 am
by AZGrizFan
If I were an OB/GYN I'd refuse to see any chicks over 135 lbs....

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:34 am
by Skjellyfetti
I have no sympathy for obese fucks.

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:35 am
by Ivytalk
How do you make love to a fat girl?

Roll her in flour and aim for the wet spot! :mrgreen:

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:37 am
by dbackjon
AZGrizFan wrote:If I were an OB/GYN I'd refuse to see any chicks over 135 lbs....
When GG was pregnant, did she ever top the 135 lb mark? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:54 am
by AZGrizFan
dbackjon wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:If I were an OB/GYN I'd refuse to see any chicks over 135 lbs....
When GG was pregnant, did she ever top the 135 lb mark? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
What's your point? I"ve seen hers.... :coffee:

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:55 am
by grizzaholic
AZGrizFan wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
When GG was pregnant, did she ever top the 135 lb mark? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
What's your point? I"ve seen hers.... :coffee:
Who hasn't? The point he was going for was...........huh. I forgot.

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:52 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:I have no sympathy for obese fucks.
go fuck yourself you self-righteous asshole.

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:54 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Is TwinTown a fatty?

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:58 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:Is TwinTown a fatty?
TwinTown is pissed that analjelly is fucking douchebag hypocrite.

Thread after thread, post after post defending the health care bill - bemoaning big insurance for their "preexisting condition" bullshit... and now this. The juxtaposition is either jarring or appalling, I'm not sure which.

Doctors treat patients - that's their job.

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:59 pm
by Skjellyfetti
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:... and now this. Doctors treat patients - that's their job.
Hey, dumbass. These aren't their patients. They aren't turning away current patients.

They're saying they aren't taking any NEW fatass patients. Well within their rights to do so.
Fifteen obstetrics-gynecology practices out of 105 polled by the Sun Sentinel said they have set weight cut-offs for new patients starting at 200 pounds or based on measures of obesity — and turn down women who are heavier.
Fat people like T-man-- and whoever else-- might not like it..... but, they should take a walk around the neighborhood or hop on a treadmill or something instead of bitching about it on the internet.

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:22 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:... and now this. Doctors treat patients - that's their job.
Hey, dumbass. These aren't their patients. They aren't turning away current patients.

They're saying they aren't taking any NEW fatass patients. Well within their rights to do so.
Fifteen obstetrics-gynecology practices out of 105 polled by the Sun Sentinel said they have set weight cut-offs for new patients starting at 200 pounds or based on measures of obesity — and turn down women who are heavier.
Fat people like T-man-- and whoever else-- might not like it..... but, they should take a walk around the neighborhood or hop on a treadmill or something instead of bitching about it on the internet.
got it. so in your sanctimonious little world only the hale and healthy should be seen by doctors? it's discrimination you tit. refusing to treat someone based on their condition is reprehensible. it's no different than refusing to treat someone old... obesity is a medical problem, and any half decent doctor wouldn't discriminate.

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:30 pm
by Skjellyfetti
TwinTownBisonFan wrote: so in your sanctimonious little world only the hale and healthy should be seen by doctors?
No. But, doctors should be able to turn away new people that choose unhealthy lifestyles and show a complete disregard for their health if they wish, however. Same reason a college turns away a student with horrible grades. Teachers teach. Doctors treat. But, noone wants to teach a kid that shows no effort to apply himself. No one wants to treat someone that lives on Whoppers and milkshakes.
TwinTownBisonFan wrote: it's discrimination you tit. refusing to treat someone based on their condition is reprehensible. it's no different than refusing to treat someone old... obesity is a medical problem, and any half decent doctor wouldn't discriminate.
Obesity... in the vast, vast majority of cases is a lifestyle choice. Inactive, high caloric diets. There are inherited genetic problems, gland problems, etc. These are a very small minority, though.

Obesity may be a medical problem.... but, so is psoriasis of the liver due to heavy drinking, so is lung cancer due to heavy smoking. Folks that CHOOSE to drink way, way more than any normal person should and make their liver worthless... is put at the BACK of the list of liver transplants. As they should be. Because the dumbass CHOSE to poison his body.

A 400-pound chick that lives on Big Macs and only gets up from her couch to reset her modem... chooses to live an unhealthy lifestyle. And, I'm not sympathetic towards her. I'm VERY sympathetic to any doctor that has to probe her atrophic vagina, though.

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:33 pm
by AZGrizFan
grizzaholic wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
What's your point? I"ve seen hers.... :coffee:
Who hasn't? The point he was going for was...........huh. I forgot.
Happens to me ALL the time when I get mesmerized by her cans, Grizza. :nod: :nod:

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:33 pm
by Vidav
They are saying it's for health complication reasons but in reality they just don't want to look at a women over 200 pounds naked. :coffee:

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:36 pm
by Vidav
AZGrizFan wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Who hasn't? The point he was going for was...........huh. I forgot.
Happens to me ALL the time when I get mesmerized by her cans, Grizza. :nod: :nod:
Pics?

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:37 pm
by 89Hen
Skjellyfetti wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote: so in your sanctimonious little world only the hale and healthy should be seen by doctors?
No. But, doctors should be able to turn away new people that choose unhealthy lifestyles and show a complete disregard for their health if they wish, however. Same reason a college turns away a student with horrible grades. Teachers teach. Doctors treat. But, noone wants to teach a kid that shows no effort to apply himself. No one wants to treat someone that lives on Whoppers and milkshakes.
TwinTownBisonFan wrote: it's discrimination you tit. refusing to treat someone based on their condition is reprehensible. it's no different than refusing to treat someone old... obesity is a medical problem, and any half decent doctor wouldn't discriminate.
Obesity... in the vast, vast majority of cases is a lifestyle choice. Inactive, high caloric diets. There are inherited genetic problems, gland problems, etc. These are a very small minority, though.

Obesity may be a medical problem.... but, so is psoriasis of the liver due to heavy drinking, so is lung cancer due to heavy smoking. Folks that CHOOSE to drink way, way more than any normal person should and make their liver worthless... is put at the BACK of the list of liver transplants. As they should be. Because the dumbass CHOSE to poison his body.

A 400-pound chick that lives on Big Macs and only gets up from her couch to reset her modem... chooses to live an unhealthy lifestyle. And, I'm not sympathetic towards her. I'm VERY sympathetic to any doctor that has to probe her atrophic vagina, though.
Are we seeing Jelly grow up right before our own eyes? People being responsible for themselves?? :shock:

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:38 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote: got it. so in your sanctimonious little world only the hale and healthy should be seen by doctors?
No. Doctors should be able to turn away people that choose unhealthy lifestyles if they wish, however.
TwinTownBisonFan wrote: it's discrimination you tit. refusing to treat someone based on their condition is reprehensible. it's no different than refusing to treat someone old... obesity is a medical problem, and any half decent doctor wouldn't discriminate.
Obesity... in the vast, vast majority of cases is a lifestyle choice. Inactive, high calorie diets. There are inherited genetic problems, gland problems, etc. These are a very small minority, though.

Obesity may be a medical problem.... but, so is psoriasis of the liver due to heavy drinking, so is lung cancer due to smoking. Folks that CHOOSE to drink way, way more than any normal person should and makes their liver worthless... is put at the BACK of the list of liver transplants. As they should be. Because the dumbass CHOSE to poison his body.

A 400-pound chick that lives on Big Macs and only gets up from her couch to reset her modem... chooses to live an unhealthy lifestyle. And, I'm not sympathetic towards her. I'm VERY sympathetic to any doctor that has to probe her atrophic vagina.
got it. so unless you are a portrait of health, no drinking, no smoking... BMI below the federally mandated line... you shouldn't be able to see a doctor? or is it that a doctor shouldn't have to see a person who is "lifestyle sick" like a guy who CHOOSES to work in a coal mine... he chose to get black lung.

funny thing is... it amazes me how incredibly sanctimonious you can be... apparently - and I'll have to check with Z on this one... but your bowel movements are incapable of smelling jelly... the rest of us, here in the real world... we got real people problems... and yeah, some of 'em we bring on ourselves... shit happens... Shit also happens when you're a doctor who swore an oath to treat the sick... you don't ask a series of self-righteous questions first... you treat the patient.

(by the way - psoriasis is a skin ailment. if your liver has flaky, dry skin in large patches... you've got issues unrelated to drinking... or cirrhosis is presenting very differently these days :coffee: :ugeek: )

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:42 pm
by AZGrizFan
No, TTBF, you are correct. analjelly's bowel movements are incapable of smelling. :coffee:

Oh, and TOP NOTCH beat down on the whole psoriasis vs cirrhosis issue... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Florida Doctors Begin Refusing To Treat Overweight Patie

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:45 pm
by Skjellyfetti
TwinTownBisonFan wrote: got it. so unless you are a portrait of health, no drinking, no smoking... BMI below the federally mandated line... you shouldn't be able to see a doctor?
Dude. I haven't said anything close to that. I said doctors should be able to turn away new patients that choose poor lifestyle choices.

In the article above... a small minority of doctors are choosing to turn away new patients that are fatasses. The VAST majority of doctors ARE accepting new fatass patients. They can still get medical help. :tothehand:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:funny thing is... it amazes me how incredibly sanctimonious you can be... apparently - and I'll have to check with Z on this one... but your bowel movements are incapable of smelling jelly... the rest of us, here in the real world... we got real people problems...
No. My shit does stink. I have my own problems and issues. And, I expect no sympathy for any choices I've made.