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"Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:36 am
by AZGrizFan
If I hear one more Republican use this term to describe the debt ceiling crisis, I'm going to puke. This "can" has been being kicked for about 50 years..... :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 11:53 am
by Ivytalk
Political expressions have an unusually long half-life, given the cravenness and lack of originality of most politicians.

My own gag reflex was triggered by "lockbox" in the 2000 election. Thanks for nothing, Big Al!

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:05 pm
by ASUG8
"at the end of the day..." gets on my nerves a bit.

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:18 pm
by JoltinJoe
Ivytalk wrote:Political expressions have an unusually long half-life, given the cravenness and lack of originality of most politicians.

My own gag reflex was triggered by "lockbox" in the 2000 election. Thanks for nothing, Big Al!
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Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:35 pm
by AZGrizFan
ASUG8 wrote:"at the end of the day..." gets on my nerves a bit.
"when it's all said and done"
"in this day and age".... :ohno: :ohno:

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:37 pm
by Wedgebuster
Enough grand standing over raising the debt ceiling, this is money already spent, yes I said ALREADY SPENT AND APPROVED BY CONGRESS. Raise the goddamned debit ceiling to cover what WE ALREADY HAVE AGREED TO SPEND, and get about cutting spending and subsequently lowering the debt ceiling as we can for future years.


Fucking bunch of ass wipe politicians, and yes this means you Dennis Rehberg you fucking piece of political shit.
:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:40 pm
by AZGrizFan
Wedgebuster wrote:Enough grand standing over raising the debt ceiling, this is money already spent, yes I said ALREADY SPENT AND APPROVED BY CONGRESS. Raise the goddamned debit ceiling to cover what WE ALREADY HAVE AGREED TO SPEND, and get about cutting spending and subsequently lowering the debt ceiling as we can for future years.


Fucking bunch of ass wipe politicians, and yes this means you Dennis Rehberg you fucking piece of political shit.
:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Egggfuckingzactly. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:22 pm
by Ivytalk
JoltinJoe wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Political expressions have an unusually long half-life, given the cravenness and lack of originality of most politicians.

My own gag reflex was triggered by "lockbox" in the 2000 election. Thanks for nothing, Big Al!
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Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:55 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
Thing of it is - "buzzwords" are essential to winning in politics. People can complain all they'd like... but imagine working on a campaign... repeating the same damn message, ad nauseum for over a year... it's awful.

there's an old saying among operatives "are you sick of your message yet? good, now it's just BEGINNING to sink in with voters" it's the same reason i put in the footer of ever page of every campaign plan i've ever written the phrase "repetition wins campaigns"

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:08 pm
by bulldog10jw
The one phrase that they ALL use is "The American People"

Left, right, or middle, they all know what "The American People" want.......or don't want

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:38 pm
by JoltinJoe
bulldog10jw wrote:The one phrase that they ALL use is "The American People"

Left, right, or middle, they all know what "The American People" want.......or don't want
And the American People are tired of it ... ;)

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:40 pm
by dbackjon
JoltinJoe wrote:
bulldog10jw wrote:The one phrase that they ALL use is "The American People"

Left, right, or middle, they all know what "The American People" want.......or don't want
And the American People are tired of it ... ;)
We, the American People :)

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:24 pm
by Ivytalk
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Thing of it is - "buzzwords" are essential to winning in politics. People can complain all they'd like... but imagine working on a campaign... repeating the same damn message, ad nauseum for over a year... it's awful.

there's an old saying among operatives "are you sick of your message yet? good, now it's just BEGINNING to sink in with voters" it's the same reason i put in the footer of ever page of every campaign plan i've ever written the phrase "repetition wins campaigns"
Come to think of it, TTBF, your posts ARE kinda repetitive... :butt: :poke: :bad:

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 5:19 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
Ivytalk wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Thing of it is - "buzzwords" are essential to winning in politics. People can complain all they'd like... but imagine working on a campaign... repeating the same damn message, ad nauseum for over a year... it's awful.

there's an old saying among operatives "are you sick of your message yet? good, now it's just BEGINNING to sink in with voters" it's the same reason i put in the footer of ever page of every campaign plan i've ever written the phrase "repetition wins campaigns"
Come to think of it, TTBF, your posts ARE kinda repetitive... :butt: :poke: :bad:
:lol:

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 5:50 pm
by JohnStOnge
Well, I guess they could say, "putting off the inevitable." The metaphor one picks doesn't matter. We keep putting off dealing with it and thereby making the stress of dealing with it when the time comes where we DO deal with it greater. Or maybe we won't deal with it and it'll just deal with US.

Really, the bottom line is that we shouldn't even have the program. And one day we won't. It's just a question of whether or not we recognize reality and do it voluntarily or the house of cards (metaphor again) just collapses.

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:10 pm
by Ivytalk
JohnStOnge wrote:Well, I guess they could say, "putting off the inevitable." The metaphor one picks doesn't matter. We keep putting off dealing with it and thereby making the stress of dealing with it when the time comes where we DO deal with it greater. Or maybe we won't deal with it and it'll just deal with US.

Really, the bottom line is that we shouldn't even have the program. And one day we won't. It's just a question of whether or not we recognize reality and do it voluntarily or the house of cards (metaphor again) just collapses.
Shoot, JSO, when I finish reading your posts, why is it that I often feel suicidal? :shocking: :beer:

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:31 pm
by JohnStOnge
Shoot, JSO, when I finish reading your posts, why is it that I often feel suicidal?
Actually my brain somehow morphed into thinking we were talking about Medicare instead of the national debt. But I'd say similar things about the national debt.

The biggest thing to me with the national debt thing is this claim that we will necessarily default if we don't raise the debt ceiling. I don't see that. There are options other than default on our debt. They are options that are not immediately pleasant. But there are options.

Re: "Kicking the can down the road"....

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:37 pm
by Ivytalk
JohnStOnge wrote:
Shoot, JSO, when I finish reading your posts, why is it that I often feel suicidal?
Actually my brain somehow morphed into thinking we were talking about Medicare instead of the national debt. But I'd say similar things about the national debt.

The biggest thing to me with the national debt thing is this claim that we will necessarily default if we don't raise the debt ceiling. I don't see that. There are options other than default on our debt. They are options that are not immediately pleasant. But there are options.
:hide: :grenade:

Noose, meet neck.