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Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:08 am
by Baldy
Should the government release the pic(s) or not and why?
Personally, I want transparency. :nod:

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:09 am
by Wedgebuster
Absolutely.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:12 am
by TwinTownBisonFan
I think releasing them is tantamount to parading a head around on a pike... and will only serve to inflame, and be used as a propaganda piece by terrorists. I think we're better than that.

While I understand the pull of wanting the photos released to "prove it"... I believe it will do more harm than good... and in the long run undermine what we've sought to do.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:12 am
by citdog
ABSOLUTELY

NO QUESTION

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:13 am
by ASUG8
Si....publish them.

Pros:
* Except for expandspanos, it should quell the conspiracy theorists
* Provides a bit of closure for victims' relatives

Cons:
* Inflames the radical end of the Muslim world (I think the simple prescence of the US on a map fills that hatred....)

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:15 am
by citdog
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:I think releasing them is tantamount to parading a head around on a pike... and will only serve to inflame, and be used as a propaganda piece by terrorists. I think we're better than that.

While I understand the pull of wanting the photos released to "prove it"... I believe it will do more harm than good... and in the long run undermine what we've sought to do.
YOU KNOW HEARING A HACK LIKE YOU SAY THAT MAKES ME START TO MAYBE THINK THAT SOME OF THOSE CONSPIRACY GUYS ONLY WEAR FOOTBALL HELMETS INSTEAD OF THE TIN FOIL YOU ALLEGE.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:21 am
by 89Hen
It will get out either way. Might as well do it officially.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:21 am
by Ivytalk
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:I think releasing them is tantamount to parading a head around on a pike... and will only serve to inflame, and be used as a propaganda piece by terrorists. I think we're better than that.

While I understand the pull of wanting the photos released to "prove it"... I believe it will do more harm than good... and in the long run undermine what we've sought to do.
This is one of the 5% of your posts that I agree with. :|

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:28 am
by TheDancinMonarch
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:I think releasing them is tantamount to parading a head around on a pike... and will only serve to inflame, and be used as a propaganda piece by terrorists.
These people are always "inflamed". Whether we do or don't will have no effect on that state of mind. As for me, I am strangely ambivalent.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:32 am
by ∞∞∞
I don't think it really matters. Either decision is fine by me.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:33 am
by Skjellyfetti
Count me in with the "don't care" folks.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:33 am
by AZGrizFan
Obama has just announced they will NOT be releasing photos.



So, let the conspiracy theorists crank up their machines....this is going to get just like the birther issue and eventually they'll have to just release the fucking pictures anyway to shut people up.

Why not just avoid all that drama?

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:34 am
by blueballs
Release the photos immediately but only those that do not in any way jeopardize the sensitive nature of the identities of the SEALs and the way the mission was carried out. One day I hope to see the "helmet cam" videos of the mission as well under the same care as to guard the mission.

As for the Muslim street, fuck them and the camel they rode in on. MEMO: They already hate us and will use anything as an excuse to incite the incitable. The hell with them... you can't reason with them, you can't convince them, all you can do is neutralize them or eliminate them.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:36 am
by TwinTownBisonFan
AZGrizFan wrote:Obama has just announced they will NOT be releasing photos.



So, let the conspiracy theorists crank up their machines....this is going to get just like the birther issue and eventually they'll have to just release the fucking pictures anyway to shut people up.

Why not just avoid all that drama?
you're right about the conspiracy theorists... but, they've already fired up their machines... you can't reason with their level of stupid, nor should you.

At some point the photos should be released - but that point is years away.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:38 am
by ASUG8
blueballs wrote:Release the photos immediately but only those that do not in any way jeopardize the sensitive nature of the identities of the SEALs and the way the mission was carried out. One day I hope to see the "helmet cam" videos of the mission as well under the same care as to guard the mission.

As for the Muslim street, fuck them and the camel they rode in on. MEMO: They already hate us and will use anything as an excuse to incite the incitable. The hell with them... you can't reason with them, you can't convince them, all you can do is neutralize them or eliminate them.
I'm with you on seeing the video, but it will never happen IMO - too much tactical information would be given away.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:38 am
by Skjellyfetti
AZGrizFan wrote:So, let the conspiracy theorists crank up their machines....this is going to get just like the birther issue and eventually they'll have to just release the fucking pictures anyway to shut people up.
That didn't shut up the conspiracy theorists on the birther issue. Nothing will. Releasing a picture of a dead Osama won't shut up the conspiracy theorists either. They'll just claim it's a doctored photo... like they claim about Obama's birth certificate. You can't win. Best to just ignore them and move on.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:40 am
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:So, let the conspiracy theorists crank up their machines....this is going to get just like the birther issue and eventually they'll have to just release the fucking pictures anyway to shut people up.
That didn't shut up the conspiracy theorists on the birther issue. Nothing will. Releasing a picture of a dead Osama won't shut up the conspiracy theorists either. They'll just claim it's a doctored photo... like they claim about Obama's birth certificate. You can't win. Best to just ignore them and move on.
How'd that work for him on the birth certificate? Is he REALLY that stupid to make the same mistake again?



Wait....you don't need to answer that. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So, any positive lift he may have received from getting Bin Laden he's going to piss down his leg by not releasing proof. Pure fucking genius. :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:41 am
by ∞∞∞
AZGrizFan wrote:Obama has just announced they will NOT be releasing photos.



So, let the conspiracy theorists crank up their machines....this is going to get just like the birther issue and eventually they'll have to just release the fucking pictures anyway to shut people up.

Why not just avoid all that drama?
Interesting. Honestly, I don't think anyone should care about what the conspiracy theorists think so that point is moot. That said, I think they'll eventually be released. They may just not be doing it in the short-term to make it easier for the US and allied countries to talk with the Taliban/Al-Q and possibly put an end to this war.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:42 am
by AZGrizFan
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Obama has just announced they will NOT be releasing photos.



So, let the conspiracy theorists crank up their machines....this is going to get just like the birther issue and eventually they'll have to just release the fucking pictures anyway to shut people up.

Why not just avoid all that drama?
you're right about the conspiracy theorists... but, they've already fired up their machines... you can't reason with their level of stupid, nor should you.

At some point the photos should be released - but that point is years away.
Disagree. IMHO the photos should have been released within hours. Every minute that goes by just adds fuel to a completely avoidable fire. Stupidity at the highest levels....much like the conspiracy theorists already being fired up, the radical extremists already hate us and are planning retribution so what harm is there in releasing the photos? Are they going to hate us MORE? Is that possible? :dunce: :dunce:

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:42 am
by TwinTownBisonFan
AZGrizFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
That didn't shut up the conspiracy theorists on the birther issue. Nothing will. Releasing a picture of a dead Osama won't shut up the conspiracy theorists either. They'll just claim it's a doctored photo... like they claim about Obama's birth certificate. You can't win. Best to just ignore them and move on.
How'd that work for him on the birth certificate? Is he REALLY that stupid to make the same mistake again?



Wait....you don't need to answer that. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So, any positive lift he may have received from getting Bin Laden he's going to piss down his leg by not releasing proof. Pure fucking genius. :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
i really doubt that failing to release the photo will mitigate the benefit of killing public enemy number 1...

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:42 am
by ASUG8
AZGrizFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
That didn't shut up the conspiracy theorists on the birther issue. Nothing will. Releasing a picture of a dead Osama won't shut up the conspiracy theorists either. They'll just claim it's a doctored photo... like they claim about Obama's birth certificate. You can't win. Best to just ignore them and move on.
How'd that work for him on the birth certificate? Is he REALLY that stupid to make the same mistake again?



Wait....you don't need to answer that. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So, any positive lift he may have received from getting Bin Laden he's going to piss down his leg by not releasing proof. Pure fucking genius. :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
AZ, ya gotta admit that he gave Trump a wet newspaper across the nose with the timing of the birth certificate release and effectively negated any momentum he was gaining. Couple that with the Osama killing and we're looking at 4 more years like it or not.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:42 am
by Wedgebuster
Well, the President just vetoed us, end of thread.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:43 am
by Skjellyfetti
TwinTownBisonFan wrote: i really doubt that failing to release the photo will mitigate the benefit of killing public enemy number 1...
Forget it. He's rolling.

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:56 am
by bluehenbillk
Way to stall your own momentum Obama - release the pictures... :tothehand:

Re: Question: Release the pics or not?

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:59 am
by 89Hen
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?secti ... id=8110497
Inside the compound, all that was left besides the blood of the world's number one terrorist was the stuff of everyday life.

Petroleum jelly there on the left, eye drops next to them, an antiseptic cream for minor cuts.
KY, you got some splainin to do. :shock: