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Intent is now the standard!
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:06 pm
by SeattleGriz
Didn't know that intent was all that really mattered when you need to qualify to run for Mayor of Chicago. Hmmm. Maybe that would work for crimes as well. It really wasn't my intent to break the law.
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Mr. Emanuel’s critics argue that in moving to Washington to work as chief of staff in the White House, he left Chicago – giving up, they say, a requirement that he have legal residency in this city for one year before mounting a run for mayor. With the city election on Feb. 22, Mr. Emanuel, who returned to Chicago this fall, could not possibly live up to the rule, these critics contend.
But Mr. Emanuel’s campaign, which quickly called a conference call with reporters on Wednesday afternoon,
says Mr. Emanuel’s intent was always to return to his home on the North Side of Chicago, and that his intent is what should ultimately define his legal status when these complaints reach elections officials and the courts.
Re: Intent is now the standard!
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:31 pm
by Col Hogan
So, if I have the "intent" to jump the bones of a 25 year old cutie...I could be charged with rape...
Judge me on my intent...even if I really didn't break the law....it's my intent...
Lots of people on this board would be in real trouble if that is what really matters...
Re: Intent is now the standard!
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:48 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Col Hogan wrote:So, if I have the "intent" to jump the bones of a 25 year old cutie...I could be charged with rape...
Judge me on my intent...even if I really didn't break the law....it's my intent...
Lots of people on this board would be in real trouble if that is what really matters...
EXACTLY. "Possession with intent to distrubute" needs to be wiped from the books.
Re: Intent is now the standard!
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:56 pm
by BlueHen86
If he was still paying local taxes then let him run for Mayor. If he wasn't then he can't run.
Re: Intent is now the standard!
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:19 pm
by Col Hogan
Skjellyfetti wrote:Col Hogan wrote:So, if I have the "intent" to jump the bones of a 25 year old cutie...I could be charged with rape...
Judge me on my intent...even if I really didn't break the law....it's my intent...
Lots of people on this board would be in real trouble if that is what really matters...
EXACTLY. "Possession with intent to distrubute" needs to be wiped from the books.
Possession is a crime...just make the severity based on the amount...problem solved...
But "intent" should not be used in prosecuting drug crimes...or as a defense for a slimy politician...
Re: Intent is now the standard!
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:23 pm
by Col Hogan
BlueHen86 wrote:If he was still paying local taxes then let him run for Mayor. If he wasn't then he can't run.
Paying taxes should not be the issue...a member of the military who keeps Chicago as "Home of Record" and pays taxes to Illinois and Chicago cannot run for mayor after retiring from 20 years of service and returning home until reestablishing residence...same standard needs to apply to Emanuel...
You want to change the standard...I'm OK with that...CHANGE THE LAW!!!!
Re: Intent is now the standard!
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:26 pm
by Bronco
According to Odelson's documents, election officials twice sent notices to Emanuel's house on Hermitage Avenue.
Both times, the notices were returned to sender. Each was stamped with Emanuel's forwarding address in Washington. Election officials do not allow such notices to be forwarded to a new address. The election board purged Emanuel from the voting lists for the first time in October 2009, ruling him an "inactive" voter.
But Emanuel's voter status switched to "active" just before the Feb. 2 primary. He voted using an absentee ballot listing the Hermitage address even though the Halpin family lived there and they also voted from that address. Voters purged from the rolls usually present a driver's license, a lease, a copy of a mortgage or other such documentation to be reinstated.
"By some magical means, which I think will come out after objections are filed, Emanuel was reinstated," Odelson told me.
Current state law reads: "A person is not eligible for an elected municipal office unless that person is a qualified elector of the municipality and has resided in the municipality at least one year next preceding the election or appointment."
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Re: Intent is now the standard!
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:30 pm
by Bronco
Carol Moseley Braun announces candidacy for mayor of Chicago
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 11/20/2010 | MARY WISNIEWSKI Staff Reporter
In front of roughly 200 supporters gathered at a cold, windy Northerly Island, former U.S. Sen. Carol Moseley Braun formally announced her candidacy for Chicago mayor Saturday.
Re: Intent is now the standard!
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:54 pm
by BlueHen86
Col Hogan wrote:BlueHen86 wrote:If he was still paying local taxes then let him run for Mayor. If he wasn't then he can't run.
Paying taxes should not be the issue...a member of the military who keeps Chicago as "Home of Record" and pays taxes to Illinois and Chicago cannot run for mayor after retiring from 20 years of service and returning home until reestablishing residence...same standard needs to apply to Emanuel...
You want to change the standard...I'm OK with that...CHANGE THE LAW!!!!
Fair enough. I think taxes should be the issue, but if they haven't been for other people then Emanuel shouldn't get special treatment.
Re: Intent is now the standard!
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:00 am
by kalm
Col Hogan wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
EXACTLY. "Possession with intent to distrubute" needs to be wiped from the books.
Possession is a crime...just make the severity based on the amount...problem solved...
Intent to distribute is often based on the amount.
But "intent" should not be used in prosecuting drug crimes...or as a defense for a slimy politician...