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No doubt Palin is a good gal. I've had the opportunity to meet her a few times and she is tough as well as compassionate. You know the "compassionate conservative" bullshit W promised, and like almost every other election promise (global warming, outreach to the democrats, etc.) didn't keep.

However, like many others, I'm concerned about her ability to lead in the event McCain, a cancer survivor and 80 year old former prisoner of war, croaks in office.

Her view on creationism in schools shows a considerable lack of intelligence.

She is the governor of the EASIEST state to run in the union by far in Alaska. There are about a million people living there and half of em live in one city - Anchorage. Anchorage has a strong mayor and city council. Fairbanks and Valdez aside, Native corps run the other cities and are essentially autonomous nations.

Alaska is the most republican state by far and Ted Stevens runs the place. Almost all of the recent major developments in Alaska were a product of his efforts and she can take little credit. While she has done a few things, Alaska will always be Ted Steven's state.

There are minimal infrastructure, trade and political issues to deal with there. No state income tax because all the revenue comes from oil and with prices at the highest levels in history, I could balance Alaska's budget.

I'm sick and tired of having a dumbass in office. I don't care if they surround themselves with experts, we need someone in office that can figure it out on their own, or at least have the judgement to know what the F is going on. Someone with true intelligence like Carter or Clinton or Barack Obama. We've seen in W and that dumfvck Reagan what happens when a puppet leads. Sorry, a bachelor's degree from Idaho is not gonna cut it when your one melanoma cell from the presidency.

Anyway, I'm glad a woman is up there but they could have done better. I'm also glad McCain and Obama are running in that either would be a decent leader. To me, it comes down to Palin and Biden, and as much as I hate old white men, I have to go with Biden.

Aside from the creationist BS, I admire Palin and hope a woman is president some day. The republicans could have picked a better qualified snapper than her.

Sarah Palin absolutely blew AWAY the audience tonight. If there was any doubt as to whether she was savvy enough, tough enough or smart enough to carry the mantle of Vice President, she put those fears to rest tonight. She took on Barack Obama DIRECTLY on every issue and exposed every weakness he has and every hypocrisy that he represents. She did it with warmth and humor, and came across as the every-person....it's becoming mroe and more clear that she was a genius pick for McCain. She's energized his campaign, energized his fundraising, and energized the conservative right. I wouldn't be surprised to see McCain close the gap and start pulling away in the coming weeks.

AZGrizFan wrote:Sarah Palin absolutely blew AWAY the audience tonight. If there was any doubt as to whether she was savvy enough, tough enough or smart enough to carry the mantle of Vice President, she put those fears to rest tonight. She took on Barack Obama DIRECTLY on every issue and exposed every weakness he has and every hypocrisy that he represents. She did it with warmth and humor, and came across as the every-person....it's becoming mroe and more clear that she was a genius pick for McCain. She's energized his campaign, energized his fundraising, and energized the conservative right. I wouldn't be surprised to see McCain close the gap and start pulling away in the coming weeks.

You know, how in the hell can anyone who saw her tonight not see the night and day difference between someone like Palin, a woman who was born to lead, and Clinton, who is as phony as a three dollar bill. It's interesting to note that gender was important to the Dems when Hillary was in the race, yet, once she's out, they're quick to dismiss gender and condemn the woman merely because of her party affiliation, without even knowing what she's accomplished, or most important, anything about her character.

Sarah Palin has more character and leadership skills than 100 Hillary Clintons, and has accomplished more than Hillary and Barack combined...

...and she's just the VP nominee.

What an invigorating choice for the Republicans.

travelinman67 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Sarah Palin absolutely blew AWAY the audience tonight. If there was any doubt as to whether she was savvy enough, tough enough or smart enough to carry the mantle of Vice President, she put those fears to rest tonight. She took on Barack Obama DIRECTLY on every issue and exposed every weakness he has and every hypocrisy that he represents. She did it with warmth and humor, and came across as the every-person....it's becoming mroe and more clear that she was a genius pick for McCain. She's energized his campaign, energized his fundraising, and energized the conservative right. I wouldn't be surprised to see McCain close the gap and start pulling away in the coming weeks.

You know, how in the hell can anyone who saw her tonight not see the night and day difference between someone like Palin, a woman who was born to lead, and Clinton, who is as phony as a three dollar bill. It's interesting to note that gender was important to the Dems when Hillary was in the race, yet, once she's out, they're quick to dismiss gender and condemn the woman merely because of her party affiliation, without even knowing what she's accomplished, or most important, anything about her character.

Sarah Palin has more character and leadership skills than 100 Hillary Clintons, and has accomplished more than Hillary and Barack combined...

...and she's just the VP nominee.

What an invigorating choice for the Republicans.

....it's because the sheeple only see and know what Barack Hussein Obama WANTS them to see and know...

I really like Ron Paul and what he stands for. I will be donating to McCain/Palin in the next couple of weeks and after tonight I am really on the wagon. I love this gal. I've been reading up on her for the last couple of months and never thought for a second that she would be his VP pick. Man she fucking kicked ass tonight. I love this gal.

I'd like to tittyfok Palin.......

Palin is a BONE a fide hottie.

Is she ready....I dunno?

travelinman67 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Sarah Palin absolutely blew AWAY the audience tonight. If there was any doubt as to whether she was savvy enough, tough enough or smart enough to carry the mantle of Vice President, she put those fears to rest tonight. She took on Barack Obama DIRECTLY on every issue and exposed every weakness he has and every hypocrisy that he represents. She did it with warmth and humor, and came across as the every-person....it's becoming mroe and more clear that she was a genius pick for McCain. She's energized his campaign, energized his fundraising, and energized the conservative right. I wouldn't be surprised to see McCain close the gap and start pulling away in the coming weeks.

You know, how in the hell can anyone who saw her tonight not see the night and day difference between someone like Palin, a woman who was born to lead, and Clinton, who is as phony as a three dollar bill. It's interesting to note that gender was important to the Dems when Hillary was in the race, yet, once she's out, they're quick to dismiss gender and condemn the woman merely because of her party affiliation, without even knowing what she's accomplished, or most important, anything about her character.

Sarah Palin has more character and leadership skills than 100 Hillary Clintons, and has accomplished more than Hillary and Barack combined...

...and she's just the VP nominee.

What an invigorating choice for the Republicans.

Um sure. You hear her bullshit on religion yet? You will. She's a bona fide whacko.

Big family values pusher too. Again, typical republican - publicly spouts FV BS but in reality they're perverts, hypocrits and pedophiles.

Governor of Alaska! Geeze, the guy who sells you all your liquor could run Alaska. You ever been to Wasilla? I have, a couple hundred times, and it's a tiny, trashy dump. Obama dealt with more in a month in Springfield than she has in her entire political life.

Ambition, I'll give it to her. But even here she pales in comparison to Hillary or Obama. Toughness, sure, but didn't work in her own family.

What kind of mother agrees to become a candidate for the the second most powerful position in the world with 5 young children and a pregnant teen daughter who is now outed worldwide? Answer - a self-absorbed tyrant in waiting.

Oh, and that degree from Idaho! That'll barely get you into the 7-11 Assistant Store Manager training program. Hilary and Obama have advanced degrees from the world's most prestigious universities.

She is fvcking hot though. I will give her dat.

D1B wrote: Oh, and that degree from Idaho! That'll barely get you into the 7-11 Assistant Store Manager training program.

That, or president of UNI.

JoltinJoe wrote:

D1B wrote: Oh, and that degree from Idaho! That'll barely get you into the 7-11 Assistant Store Manager training program.

That, or president of UNI.

Oh Geeze. Yawn. Your a regular Don Rickles.

D1B wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote: That, or president of UNI.

Oh Geeze. Yawn. Your a regular Don Rickles.

Graduates of the University of Idaho would say, "You're a regular Don Rickles."

Anyone that falls for the Palin bullshit is a fool, plain and simple. She read a speech written by a man, and delivered some weak smack - and that makes her credible??

She is an arrogant, far--right theocrat that has no use for the United States or religious freedom. I am suprised that intellegent people on here actually can't see through her bullshit and see how utterly unqualified for office she is.

JoltinJoe wrote:

D1B wrote: Oh Geeze. Yawn. Your a regular Don Rickles.

Graduates of the University of Idaho would say, "You're a regular Don Rickles."

Pointing out grammer errors. Yawn.

D1B wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote: Graduates of the University of Idaho would say, "You're a regular Don Rickles."

Pointing out grammer errors. Yawn.

Rule of Internet: Usually a dick move to point out a typo, spelling or grammar error.

Exception to rule: When you are mocking someone's intelligence or education, you're fair game when you do something stupid.

Oh, and to think that she is a better person/legislator or anything than Hillary Clinton shows that you are either too fixated on her tits to understand what she actually stands for, or really, really have no clue...

JoltinJoe wrote:

D1B wrote: Pointing out grammer errors. Yawn.

Rule of Internet: Usually a dick move to point out a typo, spelling or grammar error.

Exception to rule: When you are mocking someone's intelligence or education, you're fair game when you do something stupid.

Fvcking lawyer. Point taken, reluctantly.

dbackjon wrote:Oh, and to think that she is a better person/legislator or anything than Hillary Clinton shows that you are either too fixated on her tits to understand what she actually stands for, or really, really have no clue...

Whatever you want to think is fine dback. I can not take you seriously as a high minded individual just for the fact that you support Hillary Clinton. Sweeping gens are fun. It is funny how up in arms the Dems are over this gal. She's definitely struck a chord that scares the hell out of you guys as evidenced by the attacks and when she counter attacks then the Dems are whining like bitches. The Dems are only equaled by the Republicans in the party line rhetoric bullshit.

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Oh, and to think that she is a better person/legislator or anything than Hillary Clinton shows that you are either too fixated on her tits to understand what she actually stands for, or really, really have no clue...

Whatever you want to think is fine dback. I can not take you seriously as a high minded individual just for the fact that you support Hillary Clinton. Sweeping gens are fun. It is funny how up in arms the Dems are over this gal. She's definitely struck a chord that scares the hell out of you guys as evidenced by the attacks and when she counter attacks then the Dems are whining like bitches. The Dems are only equaled by the Republicans in the party line rhetoric bullshit.

Ursus, from what I could glean from your posts here and on AGS, you too should be scared shitless if that cvnt and McLame are elected. She's a religious whackjob of biblical magnitude.

Agree with your point on both parties but clearly Obama/Biden are the lesser of two evils.

D1B wrote: Oh, and that degree from Idaho! That'll barely get you into the 7-11 Assistant Store Manager training program. Hilary and Obama have advanced degrees from the world's most prestigious universities.

She is fvcking hot though. I will give her dat.

Easy there, killer. I'VE got a degree from the University of idaho.

JoltinJoe wrote:

D1B wrote: Oh, and that degree from Idaho! That'll barely get you into the 7-11 Assistant Store Manager training program.

That, or president of UNI.

http://www.uni.edu/pres/biography.shtml

D1B wrote:
Ursus, from what I could glean from your posts here and on AGS, you too should be scared shitless if that cvnt and McLame are elected. She's a religious whackjob of biblical magnitude.

Agree with your point on both parties but clearly Obama/Biden are the lesser of two evils.

I hear ya D1 as I am with you on the religious stuff as to what I believe but I do not consider what they believe to affect me as much as the fiscally conservative side of me is against the way the democrats traditionally operate and the fact that limiting of freedoms of choice with what we can all do with OUR OWN MONEY. I just can not buy into the health care and GW shit that is being pushed on us. I have to take both campaigns at face value at this point and I am mot as fearful of the religious angle as I am the financial angle. I've been wrong as much as I've been correct but McCain/Palin seem a lot more genuine to me.

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:

D1B wrote:
Ursus, from what I could glean from your posts here and on AGS, you too should be scared shitless if that cvnt and McLame are elected. She's a religious whackjob of biblical magnitude.

Agree with your point on both parties but clearly Obama/Biden are the lesser of two evils.

I hear ya D1 as I am with you on the religious stuff as to what I believe but I do not consider what they believe to affect me as much as the fiscally conservative side of me is against the way the democrats traditionally operate and the fact that limiting of freedoms of choice with what we can all do with OUR OWN MONEY. I just can not buy into the health care and GW shit that is being pushed on us. I have to take both campaigns at face value at this point and I am mot as fearful of the religious angle as I am the financial angle. I've been wrong as much as I've been correct but McCain/Palin seem a lot more genuine to me.

Strong post. Unlike Palin's pathetic performance (delivered well but poor subject matter), I thought McCain did an outstanding job last night. I don't give a fvck if he didn't go into specifics enough, I have a better feeling now about him following through with his promise to shake up Washington - fvck Iraq, that is the primary election issue.

I'm not as politically savy as others here, but I think democrats would be more willing to work with McCain, than republicans doing the same with Obama. Nothing to back that up except a hunch, and the fact that republicans are total dicks.

I agree with much of what you say.

D1B wrote:
Strong post. Unlike Palin's pathetic performance (delivered well but poor subject matter), I thought McCain did an outstanding job last night. I don't give a fvck if he didn't go into specifics enough, I have a better feeling now about him following through with his promise to shake up Washington - fvck Iraq, that is the primary election issue.

I'm not as politically savy as others here, but I think democrats would be more willing to work with McCain, than republicans doing the same with Obama. Nothing to back that up except a hunch, and the fact that republicans are total dicks.

I agree with much of what you say.

Saying your not poitically savvy is like saying Kobe isn't much of a Baller. The point you made in this post about Dems working with McCain is more likely that Repubs working with Obama is proof of that. I really do like Palin and I loved the way she struck back at the Dems in a way that kinda gave me a chuckle. She did it with my favorite version of tact...she can tell them to go fuck themselves and make them happy to be on their way type of thing. My mom is an ol' farm girl from Eastern Montana and a traditional democrat but she has been changing over the past few years and I am almost positive she will be voting for McCain/Palin this time. Palin's style reminds me very much of my mother with her excitement towards doing good things for other people and trying to bridge gaps to accomplish things. She doesn't have the religious hard on angle but most people that are religious are not as hardline as the ones that we see supporting the right. Most that support the right are quite a bit more toned down than the wackjobs that are portrayed to us most of the time.

D1B wrote:

Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: I hear ya D1 as I am with you on the religious stuff as to what I believe but I do not consider what they believe to affect me as much as the fiscally conservative side of me is against the way the democrats traditionally operate and the fact that limiting of freedoms of choice with what we can all do with OUR OWN MONEY. I just can not buy into the health care and GW shit that is being pushed on us. I have to take both campaigns at face value at this point and I am mot as fearful of the religious angle as I am the financial angle. I've been wrong as much as I've been correct but McCain/Palin seem a lot more genuine to me.

Strong post. Unlike Palin's pathetic performance (delivered well but poor subject matter), I thought McCain did an outstanding job last night. I don't give a fvck if he didn't go into specifics enough, I have a better feeling now about him following through with his promise to shake up Washington - fvck Iraq, that is the primary election issue.

I'm not as politically savy as others here, but I think democrats would be more willing to work with McCain, than republicans doing the same with Obama. Nothing to back that up except a hunch, and the fact that republicans are total dicks.

I agree with much of what you say.

Really? I thought he was a joke....."I intend to do this blah blah....I intend to do that blah blah.....fight terrorists blah blah"......same old McSame....I mean seriously, if you intended to do anything, well, you've been in government for 26 fokking years and you're two biggest accomplishments are a finance reform bill that could be construed as limiting the public's access to elected officials and a failed immigration bill that basically was a white flag as far as protecting our borders.....all hat, no cattle....

Appaholic wrote:

D1B wrote: Strong post. Unlike Palin's pathetic performance (delivered well but poor subject matter), I thought McCain did an outstanding job last night. I don't give a fvck if he didn't go into specifics enough, I have a better feeling now about him following through with his promise to shake up Washington - fvck Iraq, that is the primary election issue.

I'm not as politically savy as others here, but I think democrats would be more willing to work with McCain, than republicans doing the same with Obama. Nothing to back that up except a hunch, and the fact that republicans are total dicks.

I agree with much of what you say.

Really? I thought he was a joke....."I intend to do this blah blah....I intend to do that blah blah.....fight terrorists blah blah"......same old McSame....I mean seriously, if you intended to do anything, well, you've been in government for 26 fokking years and you're two biggest accomplishments are a finance reform bill that could be construed as limiting the public's access to elected officials and a failed immigration bill that basically was a white flag as far as protecting our borders.....all hat, no cattle....

Duly noted. Truth is Obama's accomplishments aint much better. The value I see in both candidates is their capacity to facilitate change in Washington. They'll have real power as president.

I'll be voting for Obama, but that doesn't mean McCain is a jackass. I find him honorable and trustworthy and I've been paying a bit closer attention to him of late.