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Paul Ryan is one of the rising stars.D1B wrote:Some good stuff from one Janesville Wisconsin's finest.
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Conks? WTF? Get behind this guy and **** the tea party idiots.
Baldy wrote:Paul Ryan is one of the rising stars.D1B wrote:Some good stuff from one Janesville Wisconsin's finest.
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Conks? WTF? Get behind this guy and **** the tea party idiots.
My only real beef with him is that he supports Value Added Taxes.
Oh, and he does give speeches at Tea Party rallies, sorry about that.
given the chance...I'd vote for him! 
Their philosophy has had it's chance, it's time for a coaching change.A NATIVE OF JANESVILLE, Wisconsin, Paul Ryan developed his political philosophy reading the works of free market authors including Milton Friedman, F. A. Hayek, and Ayn Rand. After graduating with a degree in economics and political science from Miami University in Ohio, Ryan worked as a speechwriter for Jack Kemp and William Bennett at the think tank Empower America (a predecessor to FreedomWorks) and served as a legislative aide to Sen. Sam Brownback.
Anybody who can finish a book by Ayn Rand is a tenacious mofo. She is without doubt the most boring author that ever laid pen to paper.kalm wrote:The deeper into the article you get, the more the economical magic fairy dust of this paragraph comes into focus:
Their philosophy has had it's chance, it's time for a coaching change.A NATIVE OF JANESVILLE, Wisconsin, Paul Ryan developed his political philosophy reading the works of free market authors including Milton Friedman, F. A. Hayek, and Ayn Rand. After graduating with a degree in economics and political science from Miami University in Ohio, Ryan worked as a speechwriter for Jack Kemp and William Bennett at the think tank Empower America (a predecessor to FreedomWorks) and served as a legislative aide to Sen. Sam Brownback.
I've only read the Fountainhead, but I thought it was a good read. Utopic, unrealistic, fantasy... but a good read.houndawg wrote:Anybody who can finish a book by Ayn Rand is a tenacious mofo. She is without doubt the most boring author that ever laid pen to paper.kalm wrote:The deeper into the article you get, the more the economical magic fairy dust of this paragraph comes into focus:
Their philosophy has had it's chance, it's time for a coaching change.
Well, I haven't made the attempt....but after trying to read Atlas Shrugged, I truly understood the meaning of the phrase "bored to tears".kalm wrote:I've only read the Fountainhead, but I thought it was a good read. Utopic, unrealistic, fantasy... but a good read.houndawg wrote:
Anybody who can finish a book by Ayn Rand is a tenacious mofo. She is without doubt the most boring author that ever laid pen to paper.
kalm wrote:The deeper into the article you get, the more the economical magic fairy dust of this paragraph comes into focus:
Their philosophy has had it's chance, it's time for a coaching change.A NATIVE OF JANESVILLE, Wisconsin, Paul Ryan developed his political philosophy reading the works of free market authors including Milton Friedman, F. A. Hayek, and Ayn Rand. After graduating with a degree in economics and political science from Miami University in Ohio, Ryan worked as a speechwriter for Jack Kemp and William Bennett at the think tank Empower America (a predecessor to FreedomWorks) and served as a legislative aide to Sen. Sam Brownback.
Coming from you, I will take that as a compliment.Baldy wrote:kalm wrote:The deeper into the article you get, the more the economical magic fairy dust of this paragraph comes into focus:
Their philosophy has had it's chance, it's time for a coaching change.
Change we can believe in...kalm wrote:The deeper into the article you get, the more the economical magic fairy dust of this paragraph comes into focus:
Their philosophy has had it's chance, it's time for a coaching change.A NATIVE OF JANESVILLE, Wisconsin, Paul Ryan developed his political philosophy reading the works of free market authors including Milton Friedman, F. A. Hayek, and Ayn Rand. After graduating with a degree in economics and political science from Miami University in Ohio, Ryan worked as a speechwriter for Jack Kemp and William Bennett at the think tank Empower America (a predecessor to FreedomWorks) and served as a legislative aide to Sen. Sam Brownback.
And the prosecution rests.travelinman67 wrote:Change we can believe in...kalm wrote:The deeper into the article you get, the more the economical magic fairy dust of this paragraph comes into focus:
Their philosophy has had it's chance, it's time for a coaching change.
Grizo406 wrote:Despite the fact that he looks a bit like Cleets,
...and given your lack of knowledge in economics, it doesn't matter.kalm wrote:Coming from you, I will take that as a compliment.Baldy wrote:
And again, coming from you - total compliment. Thanks!Baldy wrote:...and given your lack of knowledge in economics, it doesn't matter.kalm wrote:
Coming from you, I will take that as a compliment.
You are very welcome.kalm wrote:And again, coming from you - total compliment. Thanks!Baldy wrote:
...and given your lack of knowledge in economics, it doesn't matter.
Thanks for the offer my good man, but no need. If I want to remind myself of the failures of supply side/objectivist/ Friedmanonics I have many of your posts I can already reference. Or I can just refer to modern history.Baldy wrote:You are very welcome.kalm wrote:
And again, coming from you - total compliment. Thanks!
Whenever you want a lesson in ECON 101, just ask.
It's kinda hard to kick someone in the nuts when you don't have a leg to stand on.kalm wrote:Thanks for the offer my good man, but no need. If I want to remind myself of the failures of supply side/objectivist/ Friedmanonics I have many of your posts I can already reference. Or I can just refer to modern history.Baldy wrote:
You are very welcome.
Whenever you want a lesson in ECON 101, just ask.
To paraphrase the brilliant Wallace Shawn in Vegas Vacacation; 'Why don't you say your piece one more time, I'll kick you in the nuts again, and we'll call it a day.'
Takes one to know one, eh, houndawg?houndawg wrote:Anybody who can finish a book by Ayn Rand is a tenacious mofo. She is without doubt the most boring author that ever laid pen to paper.kalm wrote:The deeper into the article you get, the more the economical magic fairy dust of this paragraph comes into focus:
Their philosophy has had it's chance, it's time for a coaching change.
No one ever doubted your ability flame.Baldy wrote:It's kinda hard to kick someone in the nuts when you don't have a leg to stand on.kalm wrote:
Thanks for the offer my good man, but no need. If I want to remind myself of the failures of supply side/objectivist/ Friedmanonics I have many of your posts I can already reference. Or I can just refer to modern history.
To paraphrase the brilliant Wallace Shawn in Vegas Vacacation; 'Why don't you say your piece one more time, I'll kick you in the nuts again, and we'll call it a day.'
And you can quote me on that one.
Well the thread was from 2010 but good bump anyways. I wonder if supply-side economics will work THIS time.D1B wrote:D1B is always years ahead of everyone. Called this shit in 2008.
Yeah, I fucked up and took the date from when I joined cs.comkalm wrote:Well the thread was from 2010 but good bump anyways. I wonder if supply-side economics will work THIS time.D1B wrote:D1B is always years ahead of everyone. Called this shit in 2008.
The sun does rise in the east.kalm wrote:Well the thread was from 2010 but good bump anyways. I wonder if supply-side economics will work THIS time.D1B wrote:D1B is always years ahead of everyone. Called this shit in 2008.
If Ryan is off base, where is the Democrats proposal? Why aren't our Congressman and women working on this?kalm wrote:The deeper into the article you get, the more the economical magic fairy dust of this paragraph comes into focus:
Their philosophy has had it's chance, it's time for a coaching change.A NATIVE OF JANESVILLE, Wisconsin, Paul Ryan developed his political philosophy reading the works of free market authors including Milton Friedman, F. A. Hayek, and Ayn Rand. After graduating with a degree in economics and political science from Miami University in Ohio, Ryan worked as a speechwriter for Jack Kemp and William Bennett at the think tank Empower America (a predecessor to FreedomWorks) and served as a legislative aide to Sen. Sam Brownback.
Taken together, the plan earned an impressive grade from Congress's official scorekeeper. By 2080, according to CBO's "alternative fiscal scenario" that assumes the continuation of current policies, the U.S. would be dedicating a staggering 34.4 percent of its GDP to government spending, running an annual deficit of 42.8 percent, and carrying debt at 716 percent of GDP -- which as discussed above, is a point that we'd never actually reach. By contrast, under the "Roadmap," the CBO estimates that in the same year, government spending would be just 13.8 percent of the GDP, the government would be running a massive surplus of 5 percent, and it wouldn't be holding any debt.
Yet these numbers are conservative estimates, because they don't even take into account how much better off the economy would be under the "Roadmap" as a result of getting our debt under control. According to the CBO, the nation's economic output per person would be 70 percent higher in 2058 under the Ryan plan than it would be if current trends continue. After that year, the CBO's model of current trends actually breaks down "because deficits become so large and unsustainable that the model cannot calculate their effects." But as a result of putting the nation's finances on a sustainable path, the Ryan plan is projected to foster strong economic growth in the ensuing decades. And again, while these dates seem way off into the future, if the nation were put on the right course, it would provide a lot of reassurance to credit markets, and keep our borrowing costs lower in the near term.