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AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:09 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:52 am

Keep on trucking. Some progress is being made. A new test is coming soon tgat takes minutes. Testing accuracy needs to be improved. See Gil’s post.

Economic bailouts would be good too. Continued mortgage and lease extensions (commercial and residential) backed by the Fed to also protect landlords.

Or, we could just reopen the fucking country.

But hey, what's 4-5 trillion more in bailouts/"stimulus" piled onto the national debt at this point, amirite?

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:09 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:52 am

Keep on trucking. Some progress is being made. A new test is coming soon tgat takes minutes. Testing accuracy needs to be improved. See Gil’s post.

Economic bailouts would be good too. Continued mortgage and lease extensions (commercial and residential) backed by the Fed to also protect landlords.

Or, we could just reopen the fucking country.

But hey, what's 4-5 trillion more in bailouts/"stimulus" piled onto the national debt at this point, amirite?

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:27 am

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:54 am

It interrupted the economy of the USA, most entertainment and sports industries. JMU isn't playing football this fall because of it. All we had to do is wear mask, social distance and wash hands, and we could have had a fall football season. People like you didn't care enough.

Wrong. All we had to do is do what IA conferences in the mostly red states did, and we could have had a football season. The 1st ones to cancel were in the most mask wearing, physically distancing states..

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:30 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:27 am
Wrong. All we had to do is do what IA conferences in the mostly red states did, and we could have had a football season. The 1st ones to cancel were in the most mask wearing, physically distancing states..

Wrong, it wasn't who cancelled first and who wore the most masks, it was how much covid continued to spread because too many were not wearing mask and social distancing.

JMU isn't playing football this fall because of it. All we had to do is wear mask, social distance and wash hands, and we could have had a fall football season. People like you didn't care enough.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:38 pm

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:30 pm

Wrong, it wasn't who cancelled first and who wore the most masks, it was how much covid continued to spread because too many were not wearing mask and social distancing.

JMU isn't playing football this fall because of it. All we had to do is wear mask, social distance and wash hands, and we could have had a fall football season. People like you didn't care enough.

Again wrong, all we had to have is not a bunch of spineless govs and college presidents, and we could have had a fall football season just like the SEC, ACC, BIg 12, Sun Belt, etc...It had nothing to do with wearing masks, physically distancing, and washing hands..

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:42 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:38 pm

Again wrong, all we had to have is not a bunch of spineless govs and college presidents, and we could have had a fall football season just like the SEC, ACC, BIg 12, Sun Belt, etc...It had nothing to do with wearing masks, physically distancing, and washing hands..

Wrong again, if people had followed protocol, the decision would not have been up to the college presidents and spineless govs. It was all about mask, social distancing and washing, and people did not do that, and we ended up with more cases and the bureaucracy took charge.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:44 pm

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:42 pm

Wrong again, if people had followed protocol, the decision would not have been up to the college presidents and spineless govs. It was all about mask, social distancing and washing, and people did not do that, and we ended up with more cases and the bureaucracy took charge.

Wrong again, because look at the conferences that are playing in states that didn't follow so called protocol..

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:46 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:44 pm
Wrong again, because look at the conferences that are playing in states that didn't follow so called protocol..

South Dakota and Wisconsin are the states that followed protocol the least.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:35 pm

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:46 pm
South Dakota and Wisconsin are the states that followed protocol the least.

Wisconsin purple state with a donk gov. I doubt they followed protocol less that GA, FL, etc..

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:43 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:35 pm
Wisconsin purple state with a donk gov. I doubt they followed protocol less that GA, FL, etc..

The Wisconsin Supreme Court struck down the Governor's restrictions back in May.

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:46 pm

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:43 pm

The Wisconsin Supreme Court struck down the Governor's restrictions back in May.

Wisconsin has been wide open since then.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:58 pm

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:46 pm

Wisconsin has been wide open since then.

They haven't been for football. The courts didn't say they had to play college football on time.
They aren't one of the opening on time (Green) states for HS football.

https://blogs.columbian.com/high-school ... e-country/


Green States = Going forward with football season as scheduled (12)
Yellow States = Delayed Season, but having fall football (23)
Red States = Delayed until at least 2021 (15)

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:11 pm

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:09 pm

Or, we could just reopen the fucking country.

But hey, what's 4-5 trillion more in bailouts/"stimulus" piled onto the national debt at this point, amirite?

Hey! Look, everyone! The debt it’s important again! Must be time to cut taxes soon!

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:16 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:58 pm
They haven't been for football. The courts didn't say they had to play college football on time.
They aren't one of the opening on time (Green) states for HS football.

https://blogs.columbian.com/high-school ... e-country/


Green States = Going forward with football season as scheduled (12)
Yellow States = Delayed Season, but having fall football (23)
Red States = Delayed until at least 2021 (15)

That's what happens when the schools and gov get involved because people don't follow protocol. It's so simple, yet so complicated.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:15 pm

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:16 pm

That's what happens when the schools and gov get involved because people don't follow protocol. It's so simple, yet so complicated.

Oh, so in all those Green colored conk states they were following protocol. Got it.

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:39 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:11 pm

Hey! Look, everyone! The debt it’s important again! Must be time to cut taxes soon!

Well, it becomes a bit more important when you pile $7 TRILLION onto it for an avoidable reason. No?

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:27 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:15 pm
Oh, so in all those Green colored conk states they were following protocol. Got it.

Wrong again, naturally. NDSU just sent out emails, changing attendance for Saturday's game, from 8000+, to player families.

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:42 pm

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:39 pm

Well, it becomes a bit more important when you pile $7 TRILLION onto it for an avoidable reason. No?

Avoidable? You mean trumps tax cuts, or the war in Iraq, or?

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:19 pm Now do Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, etc., etc., etc.

And if you don’t adjust those graphs for the testing numbers, they don’t mean shit.

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:29 pm

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:19 pm Now do Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, etc., etc., etc.

And if you don’t adjust those graphs for the testing numbers, they don’t mean shit.

Wisconsin has 3x more active cases than Minnesota, and 500,000 less test than Minnesota.

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:49 pm

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:29 pm

Wisconsin has 3x more active cases than Minnesota, and 500,000 less test than Minnesota.

Great, but irrelevant.

Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:03 pm

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:49 pm

Great, but irrelevant.

Minnesota has a mask rule, Wisconsin doesn't