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Ibanez wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:52 pm

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm

The ironically named Biden “Derangement” Syndrome….

lol. There's a BDS among Conservatives...similar to the TDS we saw the last 4 years.


But to grade Biden...

Winterborn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:51 pm

Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:31 pm
They aren't alleged, lol. Are you saying Trump didn't complain about Obama playing golf and then went and played MORE golf in less time? Or that he DIDN'T say Mexico would pay for a wall...which they ended up not paying for?

Kinda of hard to pay for a wall that didn't he didn't have the chops to get built.

Winterborn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:51 pm

Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:31 pm

They aren't alleged, lol. Are you saying Trump didn't complain about Obama playing golf and then went and played MORE golf in less time? Or that he DIDN'T say Mexico would pay for a wall...which they ended up not paying for?

Kinda of hard to pay for a wall that didn't get built.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:06 pm

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:58 pm

So Trump is your barometer of political consistency? https://www.usnews.com/news/national-ne ... flip-flops

Mmmkay.

Go back and re read what I bolded.
Now go read when those alleged flip flops occurred.

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:58 pm Let’s take a peek at some of Biden’s “accomplishments” in his first 7 months in office:

1) Worst foreign policy debacle in nearly 50 years unfolding before our eyes
2) Highest level of illegals crossing the border in 24 years
3) Highest inflation rate in 13 years
4) Reduced to begging OPEC for more oil, after taking over a country that had achieved energy independence
5) Taliban got a country
6) Russia got a pipeline
7) Shut down construction of America’s pipeline
8) Highest gas prices in six years (oh, since Obama’s 2nd term…hmmmm)
9) Added $4 Trillion to the national debt
10) Pissed off EVERY member of NATO in one fell swoop
11) Incented millions of Americans to stay home and not work, blunting economic growth/recovery
12) Raised (or proposed raising) taxes, blunting economic growth/recovery

….and the list goes on. But look, JSO, Biden is setting some records too! Yay America!

Their argument goes like this: The reopening of the economy spawned a huge increase in demand that companies were unable to meet owing to widespread shortages of supplies and labor. The mismatch between supply and demand has forced companies to raise prices or wages and contributed to a broad increase in inflation.

JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:15 pm

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:58 pm Let’s take a peek at some of Biden’s “accomplishments” in his first 7 months in office:

1) Worst foreign policy debacle in nearly 50 years unfolding before our eyes
2) Highest level of illegals crossing the border in 24 years
3) Highest inflation rate in 13 years
4) Reduced to begging OPEC for more oil, after taking over a country that had achieved energy independence
5) Taliban got a country
6) Russia got a pipeline
7) Shut down construction of America’s pipeline
8) Highest gas prices in six years (oh, since Obama’s 2nd term…hmmmm)
9) Added $4 Trillion to the national debt
10) Pissed off EVERY member of NATO in one fell swoop
11) Incented millions of Americans to stay home and not work, blunting economic growth/recovery
12) Raised (or proposed raising) taxes, blunting economic growth/recovery

….and the list goes on. But look, JSO, Biden is setting some records too! Yay America!

I completely disagree with what he did with Afghanistan. I don't think some of the other stuff not associated with that are due to him. I don't think he's the reason for high inflation. I think the Federal Reserve argument for why we have inflation is reasonable. You can read it in the article at https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-i ... 1628344325:

Their argument goes like this: The reopening of the economy spawned a huge increase in demand that companies were unable to meet owing to widespread shortages of supplies and labor. The mismatch between supply and demand has forced companies to raise prices or wages and contributed to a broad increase in inflation.

It's not just the United States. Germany, for instance, also has its highest inflation rate in 13 years. See https://www.reuters.com/business/german ... 021-08-30/.

I think he did piss off NATO by doing what he did with Afghanistan. But I have no doubt NATO countries would rather have him as US President than Trump.

The Russian pipeline thing is between Russia and Germany. No US President was going to stop it from happening. If Trump were President he could have blustered and moved his hands around like he does. But he could not have stopped it.

Gas prices are also not due to any particular President. Other factors. See https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 253346001/.

I'll stop with that one but it's the same old same old. I know that the reality is that President gets credit from many when things go well and blame when they do not. But the biggest difference between this President and the last one is that the last one took office when things were going well and had been for years. He took over under perhaps the best circumstances during which any President of my lifetime took office. This one took over when things were in chaos. And I'm not even saying the chaos could have been entirely avoided by the previous President. Yes, I do think Trump completely mishandled the COVID-19 thing. But even if he hadn't it still would've been bad.

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:28 pm

JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:15 pm

I completely disagree with what he did with Afghanistan. I don't think some of the other stuff not associated with that are due to him. I don't think he's the reason for high inflation. I think the Federal Reserve argument for why we have inflation is reasonable. You can read it in the article at https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-i ... 1628344325:



It's not just the United States. Germany, for instance, also has its highest inflation rate in 13 years. See https://www.reuters.com/business/german ... 021-08-30/.

I think he did piss off NATO by doing what he did with Afghanistan. But I have no doubt NATO countries would rather have him as US President than Trump.

The Russian pipeline thing is between Russia and Germany. No US President was going to stop it from happening. If Trump were President he could have blustered and moved his hands around like he does. But he could not have stopped it.

Gas prices are also not due to any particular President. Other factors. See https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 253346001/.

I'll stop with that one but it's the same old same old. I know that the reality is that President gets credit from many when things go well and blame when they do not. But the biggest difference between this President and the last one is that the last one took office when things were going well and had been for years. He took over under perhaps the best circumstances during which any President of my lifetime took office. This one took over when things were in chaos. And I'm not even saying the chaos could have been entirely avoided by the previous President. Yes, I do think Trump completely mishandled the COVID-19 thing. But even if he hadn't it still would've been bad.

I see. So Trump gets blamed for everything. Biden gets blamed for nothing. You continually minimized Trump’s accomplishments for four years, and now you’re going to minimize Biden’s failures for the NEXT three.

Winterborn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:01 pm

Ibanez wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:23 am
AZ is right - everyone is a Neocon compared to you. Besides - you say that like it's a bad thing.



I'm don't like interventionism but we're a global economy and sometimes you have to step in when other countries aren't playing well with others.

I like Nikki - as Governor, I felt she did a great job for all the citizens of tis state...not just the ones that voted for her. She's personable, charming, intelligent and really commanded respect in this State. Plus - she held her own when accused of sexual misdeeds, never lost her cool and prevailed. I'll overlook her Trump relationship as long as she doesn't placate that base. I don't think she will...if she does run, I think she'll try to strike out on her own path using her time in SC and at the UN.

I liked her Governorship and as ambassador. I definitely cooled on her since 2019, and it would take quite a bit of clarification to vote for her.

She might not be Liz Cheney but she is within HS field goal range of her. Best thing I can say about her now is that she is an opportunist.

GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:37 am

SDHornet wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:31 am

Yeah that ship has sailed. No doubt Biden is worse at this point...


...and we're only 7 months in.

Eh, that I don't think we'll ever know. Trump was pretty unhinged near the end, and frankly, I wonder if he would've been removed via the 25th amendment if Pence and others saw there was another 4 years as opposed to just a few days. Biden is absolutely terrible, and a first term Trump was and is much superior to what Biden is doing now, but I'm not convinced about a second term Trump. But yes, Biden's first term, just 7 months in, is shaping up to be unimaginably worse than Trump at the same stage.

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:36 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:06 pm
Go back and re read what I bolded.
Now go read when those alleged flip flops occurred.

Weak stuff. Trump backed the Clintons in 2008. He’s the ultimate political whore. Do your homework or stop posting here.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:17 am

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:36 pm
Weak stuff. Trump backed the Clintons in 2008. He’s the ultimate political whore. Do your homework or stop posting here.

My post was correct- he kept consistent primary to general. Reading is fundamental.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:40 pm

Winterborn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:51 pm

Kinda of hard to pay for a wall that didn't get built.

I know you’re just trolling, but I’ll bite FTR..

450+ miles got built in just 2019-2020.

And before anyone says but most of that wasn‘t ‘new wall‘ but replacing existing, if you replace a dilapidated little fence with 18-30 ft mostly bollard, that is new wall..

There was several hundred more miles funded when Biden stopped construction. How much would Trump have gotten built if 2021-2025 if 450+ was done 2019-2020?

How much more will Desantis get built?

UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:54 am

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:17 am
My post was correct- he kept consistent primary to general. Reading is fundamental.

Your post may be factually correct but is it relevant? What Trump said and did after he stole the 2016 election is a factor in whether is he or isn't a flip flopper.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:33 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:54 am
Your post may be factually correct but is it relevant? What Trump said and did after he stole the 2016 election is a factor in whether is he or isn't a flip flopper.

I'm right there with Jelly - he has Trump/Russia and I have stolen elections

JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:38 pm

AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:28 pm

I see. So Trump gets blamed for everything. Biden gets blamed for nothing. You continually minimized Trump’s accomplishments for four years, and now you’re going to minimize Biden’s failures for the NEXT three.

If you look at what I wrote over the years it wasn't that Trump gets "blamed." It's that Trump was not the reason for things like declining unemployment, a continuing economic expansion, ect. Now I am saying Biden is not the reason for things like the relatively high inflation rate, rising gas prices, etc. It's perfectly consistent.

I have said/written for many, many years that most people think Presidents are WAY more of a factor in things like that than they actually are. Presidents do not control the economy.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:49 am

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:33 am
I'm right there with Jelly - he has Trump/Russia and I have stolen elections

I was being factitious so I fixed your post.

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:17 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:49 am

I was being factitious so I fixed your post.

You’re not just factitious: you’re positively sesquipedalian.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:18 am

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:17 am

You’re not just factitious: you’re positively sesquipedalian.

Wow...big word there. I had to Google that. That was sublimely scrumtrulescent.


Also, it certainly applies to JSO.

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:17 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:49 am
I was being factitious so I fixed your post.

You’re not just factitious: you’re positively sesquipedalian.

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:23 am

Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:18 am

Wow...big word there. I had to Google that. That was sublimely scrumtrulescent.


Also, it certainly applies to JSO.

Not really. He’s into data, not big woids.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:49 am

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:23 am

Not really. He’s into data, not big woids.

I was going with the long-winded defintion.

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:23 am

Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:18 am

Wow...big word there. I had to Google that. That was sublimely scrumtrulescent.


Also, it certainly applies to JSO.

Not really. He’s into data, not big woids.

houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:03 am

GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:37 am

Eh, that I don't think we'll ever know. Trump was pretty unhinged near the end, and frankly, I wonder if he would've been removed via the 25th amendment if Pence and others saw there was another 4 years as opposed to just a few days. Biden is absolutely terrible, and a first term Trump was and is much superior to what Biden is doing now, but I'm not convinced about a second term Trump. But yes, Biden's first term, just 7 months in, is shaping up to be unimaginably worse than Trump at the same stage.

not fair, Biden hasn't had nearly as much opportunity to get out on the links and swing a club as "Pele" had in his first seven months - apples and oranges

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:06 am I give Biden a solid G-. He so bad he's below an F.

Like school on Saturday, no class. (See who knows where that line came from).