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Still pushing the election was stolen because there's no way biden could have gotten 80 million votes canard.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:57 am First person that’s admitted to voting for Biden, now if we could just find the other 79,999,999 voters….
When both candidates off the court record is equally bad, you have to go with the one that is better during the game…
Simple
GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:44 amHence why I never have and never will submit a ballot voting for Trump. Hard to be any more of a detestable person than Trump is and really always has been. Historians a generation or two from now (I hate historians trying to write about contemporary events or persons) will have a field day dissecting America at this point in time.
With that said, I voted for Biden in the last election but, barring some miracle, will not be voting for him this time. Both candidates are so unworthy of my vote that I'll either leave it blank or pick some loon like Jill Stein (not running this time) to lodge my protest. It obviously won't matter and one of these two wretched candidates will win and be President for the next 4 year (barring death, which is real for both, or some other scandal, which Trump likely has the lead in that department). And while plenty of folks will bemoan these next 4 years and we'll get plenty of denunciations that American democracy is dead or that we've reached the end of the American republic, come January 20, 2029, someone else other than these two bottom-feeders will be President and than person, by default, will be better than what we have in front of us now.
In the meantime, buckle-up, it's going to be a sad political display for the next 5 years - this election season and then 4 years (again, barring a death) after that. Oh boy.
Nope, he’s only getting worseUNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:14 amStill pushing the election was stolen because there's no way biden could have gotten 80 million votes canard.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:57 am First person that’s admitted to voting for Biden, now if we could just find the other 79,999,999 voters….
When both candidates off the court record is equally bad, you have to go with the one that is better during the game…
Simple
- trump's was ok in the first 3 quarters but he wilted in the 4th.
- biden's 1st quarter was abysmal but he's leveled out since.
- I'd rather have someone who doesn't wilt and whine under pressure and adversity.
Like my dad (who was a collegiate golf and football coach) used to say…” I’d rather loose without ya than win with ya.”Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:57 am First person that’s admitted to voting for Biden, now if we could just find the other 79,999,999 voters….
When both candidates off the court record is equally bad, you have to go with the one that is better during the game…
Simple
The withdrawal from Afghanistan (1st quarter) and the Inflation Reduction Act (2nd quarter) were the low points of biden's presidency. What specifically would you hold against him?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:25 amNope, he’s only getting worseUNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:14 am
Still pushing the election was stolen because there's no way biden could have gotten 80 million votes canard.
- trump's was ok in the first 3 quarters but he wilted in the 4th.
- biden's 1st quarter was abysmal but he's leveled out since.
- I'd rather have someone who doesn't wilt and whine under pressure and adversity.
First quarter put him in the basement and he can’t dig himself out…
If he was American he would say that about our fool on the hill Joe Bidenkalm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:35 amLike my dad (who was a collegiate golf and football coach) used to say…” I’d rather loose without ya than win with ya.”Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:57 am First person that’s admitted to voting for Biden, now if we could just find the other 79,999,999 voters….
When both candidates off the court record is equally bad, you have to go with the one that is better during the game…
Simple
You have to include his handling (or not handling) of the border as a significant issue. Just hands down, it's been a disaster of his own making.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:57 amThe withdrawal from Afghanistan (1st quarter) and the Inflation Reduction Act (2nd quarter) were the low points of biden's presidency. What specifically would you hold against him?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:25 am
Nope, he’s only getting worse
First quarter put him in the basement and he can’t dig himself out…
trump finished his Presidency with a whimper. I like President's who are winners and finish strong. trump is neither.
Have you already forgot? You replied to 500 of my posts saying…. But Trump and never admit fully how awful Biden has beenUNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:57 amThe withdrawal from Afghanistan (1st quarter) and the Inflation Reduction Act (2nd quarter) were the low points of biden's presidency. What specifically would you hold against him?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:25 am
Nope, he’s only getting worse
First quarter put him in the basement and he can’t dig himself out…
trump finished his Presidency with a whimper. I like President's who are winners and finish strong. trump is neither.
Pretty sure I've been clear I voted for Biden in 2020 ever since I cast that vote. That's not been a secret for close to 4 years now. As I said, there's no way I'll ever place a vote for Trump given his own mental imbalance. In a pick between an age-befuddled candidate and a lunatic, I simply elect not to participate. We as a country lose regardless of the outcome.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:57 am First person that’s admitted to voting for Biden, now if we could just find the other 79,999,999 voters….
When both candidates off the court record is equally bad, you have to go with the one that is better during the game…
Simple
Oh he would have most certainly NOT said that about the President, despite having done fair criticisms like we all do.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:14 amIf he was American he would say that about our fool on the hill Joe Biden
Good catches. I would still argue that biden's biggest blunders came in the first 2 years and that year 3 and the start of year 4 have been blah (which isn't good either).GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:15 amYou have to include his handling (or not handling) of the border as a significant issue. Just hands down, it's been a disaster of his own making.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:57 am
The withdrawal from Afghanistan (1st quarter) and the Inflation Reduction Act (2nd quarter) were the low points of biden's presidency. What specifically would you hold against him?
trump finished his Presidency with a whimper. I like President's who are winners and finish strong. trump is neither.
You also need to include in the first quarter those COVID relief bills that were the main triggers of the inflation that we're still struggling to climb out of (see in the lagging real wages indicator). Heck, the Inflation Reduction Act, by itself, wasn't a big deal, but only piled on to the inflation that was already there from the prior spending blowouts.
And lastly, and sure this is more controversial, I would throw in his poor foreign policy performance when it comes to handling both Ukraine and the Israel/Gaza disaster. For Ukraine, I know that he and his administration did at least act in the leadup to Putin's invasion and tried diplomatically to head it off, but the fact that Putin still went ahead with it in spite of that doesn't look well on the quality of those diplomatic efforts and also asks the question of what more should we have done to prevent it. Maybe we couldn't have done anything else, maybe Putin was never going to be talked off or convinced off the ledge, but in the end he still invaded and we're dealing with the not-as-great options of trying to support Ukraine rather than the better option of having the invasion not happen in the first place. And with Israel, or anything Middle East, it's hard to throw the blame of Hamas's 10/7 attack onto Biden, but we did have a few years of again trying to play nice with Iran which you could argue was Iran deciding we weren't strident enough to stop them from pushing their proxies to push the boundaries of what's acceptable. And Biden shares some of the blame for isolating Israel under Netanyahu that when it came time for us to have better influence with Israel to control their response we just didn't have it. Not all of this is Biden's doing, obviously, but there were plenty of steps and missteps during his administration that helped to create the world we're living in now and the events that have risen to the top in that time. Foreign policy under Biden has not been a good thing.
What do you want me to say about biden? I think he's a horrible POTUS, that he's corrupt and an arrogant twat. I'm on record as saying that one is better than the other is arguing about which pile of sh!t smells better. They both stink.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:17 amHave you already forgot? You replied to 500 of my posts saying…. But Trump and never admit fully how awful Biden has beenUNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:57 am
The withdrawal from Afghanistan (1st quarter) and the Inflation Reduction Act (2nd quarter) were the low points of biden's presidency. What specifically would you hold against him?
trump finished his Presidency with a whimper. I like President's who are winners and finish strong. trump is neither.
The truthUNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:00 pmWhat do you want me to say about biden? I think he's a horrible POTUS, that he's corrupt and an arrogant twat. I'm on record as saying that one is better than the other is arguing about which pile of sh!t smells better. They both stink.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:17 am
Have you already forgot? You replied to 500 of my posts saying…. But Trump and never admit fully how awful Biden has been
I'm more critical of trump because I think he's an even worse human being and just as inept of a POTUS. The posters on here who voted for biden in 2020 believe that he's a flawed human being but thought he was better than the alternative. The posters on here who voted for trump in 2020 believe that he's fighting for the people and worship him like a god. Which group of people is more delusional?
The truth? Sure! You post a lot of stuff about the "biden crime family" and "joey rotten" that's based more on rumors and innuendo than actual facts and proof.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:11 pmThe truthUNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:00 pm
What do you want me to say about biden? I think he's a horrible POTUS, that he's corrupt and an arrogant twat. I'm on record as saying that one is better than the other is arguing about which pile of sh!t smells better. They both stink.
I'm more critical of trump because I think he's an even worse human being and just as inept of a POTUS. The posters on here who voted for biden in 2020 believe that he's a flawed human being but thought he was better than the alternative. The posters on here who voted for trump in 2020 believe that he's fighting for the people and worship him like a god. Which group of people is more delusional?
That’s what I do
There's a lot more than innuendo about trump. While the first impeachment was baloney, trump has been impeached twice. He's been indicted 4 times with nearly 100 criminal charges. How many other lawsuits is he currently involved in? The person who tried to steal the 2020 was trump.
Biden has turned out pretty much like I had envisionedUNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:35 pmThere's a lot more than innuendo about trump. While the first impeachment was baloney, trump has been impeached twice. He's been indicted 4 times with nearly 100 criminal charges. How many other lawsuits is he currently involved in? The person who tried to steal the 2020 was trump.
How many times has biden been impeached? Indicted? Charged?
Now comes the "it's the swamp protecting their own and attacking the person who is standing up for the little guy" conspiracy.
Lol many of those 91 charges are literally the same thing copied and pasted over and over (see NY) or the just a few words added or switched around, or for each separate document (FL).UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:35 pmThere's a lot more than innuendo about trump. While the first impeachment was baloney, trump has been impeached twice. He's been indicted 4 times with nearly 100 criminal charges. How many other lawsuits is he currently involved in? The person who tried to steal the 2020 was trump.
How many times has biden been impeached? Indicted? Charged?
Now comes the "it's the swamp protecting their own and attacking the person who is standing up for the little guy" conspiracy.
I think that happens quite often with white-collar criminals. Maybe Ivy or Joe can poke their head in and confirm.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:35 pmLol many of those 91 charges are literally the same thing copied and pasted over and over (see NY) or the just a few words added or switched around, or for each separate document (FL).UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:35 pm
There's a lot more than innuendo about trump. While the first impeachment was baloney, trump has been impeached twice. He's been indicted 4 times with nearly 100 criminal charges. How many other lawsuits is he currently involved in? The person who tried to steal the 2020 was trump.
How many times has biden been impeached? Indicted? Charged?
Now comes the "it's the swamp protecting their own and attacking the person who is standing up for the little guy" conspiracy.
Trumps a lunatic?GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:21 amPretty sure I've been clear I voted for Biden in 2020 ever since I cast that vote. That's not been a secret for close to 4 years now. As I said, there's no way I'll ever place a vote for Trump given his own mental imbalance. In a pick between an age-befuddled candidate and a lunatic, I simply elect not to participate. We as a country lose regardless of the outcome.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:57 am First person that’s admitted to voting for Biden, now if we could just find the other 79,999,999 voters….
When both candidates off the court record is equally bad, you have to go with the one that is better during the game…
Simple
Too bad neither major party will have a decent human being leading their ticket.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:20 am This is not material but it’s very nice too see others calling out our evil national clown
“ANY DECENT HUMAN would personally and publicly apologize to this tortured woman…(at least) for this globally-witnessed show of disrespect to her and her murdered daughter. But he may be too busy unleashing his DOJ’s dogs on the Gold Star Dad he had handcuffed for briefly interrupting his hour plus personal grievance rant to remind the old coot that he had never accepted responsibility for the idiotic decisions he made that got the man’s son killed in the Afghanistan surrender debacle.
FUBeAR has seen more than enough of this evil clown and his band of Star Wars bar scene Circus Performers. Whomever President Trump chooses as his VP Running Mate has FUBeAR’s vote!”
