Ex Minn. Gov. Ventura: "Every War Starts With a False Flag"

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The truth hurts:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAmJ9oAy1mc[/youtube]

[kalm]

I like Jesse Ventura. He's a very smart dude with a shit ton of life experiences. He's a little crazy sometimes, but a very entertaining kind of crazy.

[BlueHen86]

I like Jesse Ventura. He's a very smart dude with a shit ton of life experiences. He's a little crazy sometimes, but a very entertaining kind of crazy.

I agree. I want to hear what he has to say, I think he gets a lot of stuff right. But he does go occasionally off the deep end when it comes to conspiracies. You can't take his word as gospel.

[andy7171]

I loved when The Body did color commentary back in the day.

[93henfan]

I loved when The Body did color commentary back in the day.

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If anyone is wondering about the "Building 7 collapse reported early" part he's talking about.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s[/youtube]

The BBC was reading a pre-ordained script they were given (however, they got the timing screwed up) and the lady says "The collapse of the Soloman Brothers (WTC-7) has happened (when in reality, in the live image behind her, the building is still there).

Jesse could have done better in that interview. When he's breaking apart the official conspiracy theory.. He mentions 19 arabs in a cave did 9/11.

Instead, he should have pointed out that 15/19 hijackers were allegedly from Saudi Arabia!! or almost 80% of the supposed hijackers being from Saudia Arabia.

So, why then, did we go and attack Iraq and Afghanistan, instead of attacking Saudi Arabia?, if in fact we were trying to get back at the people who did 9/11? It makes zero sense at all. The funding base for the Bin Laden family was also Saudi Arabia.. The story sucks.

[SuperHornet]

I'm not so sure that "every" war has started with a false flag, but there is a strong history of ship captains using a false flag to gain an advantage at the start of battle. It was considered a legitimate ruse de guerre so long as the ship raised her proper colors before she opened fire.

[grizzaholic]

I am sorry. he is a fucking nutjob.

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I am sorry. he is a **** nutjob.

Here's what some psychologists have to say about your "condition":

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEGgAk1AbA4[/youtube]

[grizzaholic]

I am sorry. he is a **** nutjob.

Here's what some psychologists have to say about your "condition":

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEGgAk1AbA4[/youtube]

Don't you start that shit with me today. I am not in the fucking mood. Hungover and grumpy. Take your 9-11 conspiracy theories and shove them straight up your urethra. Jessie is a fuckiing kook.

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Grizz.. you might have a drinking problem my friend.


70 reasons to doubt the "Official" 9/11 Conspiracy Theory:

John Doraemi

1. The president of the United States, when informed that a second plane had struck the World Trade Center, continued to read about a pet goat.

3. The Secret Service did not secure the president, even though his location was publicly disclosed in the press for days before the school photo op on 9/11. This was a break in standard operating procedures that left the president vulnerable in the middle of a purported “attack” on America.

4. NORAD has told three different and conflicting stories explaining why no jet fighters intercepted any of the four hijacked airliners.

5. Vice President Richard Cheney was placed in charge of anti-terrorism training and military preparedness exercises by Bush on May 8, 2001. This gave him command authority during the 9/11 attacks because as many as nine war game exercises involving military and intelligence agencies were occurring simultaneously.

6. The military’s “Air Piracy” regulations were rewritten on June 1st 2001 to require the “Secretary of Defense” to give “approval” for military escort aircraft in the event of a hijacking. Donald Rumsfeld gave no “approval” that day.

7. More than an hour and fifteen minutes after the first hijacking was reported by FAA, the US military headquarters at the Pentagon was struck without any defensive action taken to stop the attack. The impact was on the west side, for some reason the only side that had been “hardened” with blast-proof windows and specially reinforced walls. None of the highest ranking military leadership were located on that side.

9. “President Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle Tuesday to limit the congressional investigation into the events of September 11…” …”Tuesday’s discussion followed a rare call to Daschle from Vice President Dick Cheney last Friday to make the same request.”

Both Bush and Cheney insisted on testifying behind closed doors, and to not be recorded in any way shape or form.

10. The Project For a New American Century, which wrote of the need for a “catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor,” had members throughout the top of the government on 9/11 including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Bolton, Armitage, Abrams, Wurmser, as well as Bush’s brother, the governor of Florida, Jeb.

13. Huffman Aviation flight school, where Mohamed Atta and other alleged hijackers trained, had a Lear jet seized by the DEA with “43 pounds of heroin” onboard. No one was ever prosecuted in connection with the “biggest drug seizure in central Florida history.”

14. The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks on the United States (“9/11 Commission”) was a blatant and obvious cover-up under the control of Bush administration member and “Executive Director” Phillip Zelikow. This cover-up can be proven easily with one example: the time of Dick Cheney’s arrival at the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (“PEOC bunker”). Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta testified under oath that Cheney was present at 9:20am and issuing “orders” related to the plane that struck the Pentagon. Mineta’s testimony was completely omitted from their final report, and a fraudulent time of 9:58am for Cheney’s arrival was given instead (book pg 40 / .pdf file pg 57).

15. The 9/11 Commission was originally only given $3 million to investigate the greatest terrorist attacks on US soil in our history. The Bush administration then witheld requested documents forcing the Commissioners to issue subpoenas to FAA and the Department of Defense. (Less than the Clinton Blowjob)

22. Minneapolis FBI Agent and Legal Advisor Colleen Rowley (21 year veteran) said that the FBI Headquarters Special Supervisory Agent, “seemed to have been consistently, almost deliberately thwarting the Minneapolis FBI agents’ efforts …continued to, almost inexplicably, throw up roadblocks and undermine Minneapolis’ by-now desperate efforts to obtain a FISA search warrant, long after the French intelligence service provided its information and probable cause became clear. …Even after the attacks had begun, the SSA in question was still attempting to block the search of Moussaoui’s computer, characterizing the World Trade Center attacks as a mere coincidence. …HQ personnel never disclosed to the Minneapolis agents that the Phoenix Division had, only approximately three weeks earlier, warned of Al Qaeda operatives in flight schools seeking flight training for terrorist purposes!”

23. FBI Special Agent Robert Wright (12 year veteran) said: “”[T]here existed a concerted effort on the part of agents conducting counterterrorism intelligence investigations to insulate the subjects of their investigations from criminal investigation and prosecution.” …”The supervisor …started yelling at me: ‘You will not open criminal investigations. I forbid any of you. You will not open criminal investigations against any of these intelligence subjects.’” …”(T)here is virtually no effort on the part of the FBI’s International Terrorism Unit to neutralize known and suspected terrorists residing within the United States.”

“A lawyer speaking for (FBI Special Agent) Wright after 9/11 will blame Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division Michael Chertoff for refusing to take Wright’s concerns seriously before 9/11.” Chertoff will later be appointed to become head of the Orwellian-named Department of Homeland Security.
“Larry Klayman, one of two lawyers now representing [FBI Agent] Wright, later says he calls the Justice Department a few days after 9/11 and asks that Wright be allowed to present his issues to Attorney General John Ashcroft. Klayman claims he receives a reply from Michael Chertoff, then head of the Criminal division, who refuses to meet with Wright and says, “We are tired of conspiracy theories.”

FBI Agent Wright says at his press conference: “Corruption is knowing when something is not being done, knowing when the American people are being left unprotected and when you make a decision not to do something to protect the American people… And you effectively allow 9/11 to occur. That is the ultimate form of government corruption-dereliction of duty. That’s subject in the military to prosecution, to court martial…. Frankly, if not treason.”

26. “The [FBI Inspector General] report attributes the inaction and inattention to the lack of resources committed to anti-terrorist activities in the summer of 2001. For instance, there was only a single research analyst assigned to the FBI’s Bin Laden Unit in 2001, and she was transferred to another unit in July 2001.”

28. “At issue is a July 5, 2001, meeting between Ashcroft and acting FBI Director Tom Pickard.”
“‘Mr. Ashcroft told you that he did not want to hear about this anymore,’ Democratic commission member Richard Ben-Veniste asked on April 13. ‘Is that correct?’”
“‘That is correct,’ Pickard replied.”
…”(A)nother senior FBI official tells NBC News he vividly recalls Pickard returning from the meeting that day furious that Ashcroft had cut short the terrorism briefing. Several sources familiar with the investigation say Garcia confirmed to the commission that Ashcroft did indeed dismiss Pickard’s warnings about al-Qaida.”

29. FBI Translator Sibel Edmonds has become the most gagged whistleblower in the country’s history. In a letter to 9/11 Commissioner Thomas Kean, she said, “”If Counterintelligence receives information that contains money laundering, illegal arms sale, and illegal drug activities, directly linked to terrorist activities; and if that information involves certain nations, certain semi-legit organizations, and ties to certain lucrative or political relations in this country, then, that information is not shared with Counterterrorism, regardless of the possible severe consequences. In certain cases, frustrated FBI agents cited ‘direct pressure by the State Department,’ and in other cases ‘sensitive diplomatic relations’ is cited. …Your hearings did not include questions regarding these unspoken and unwritten policies and practices. Despite your full awareness and understanding of certain criminal conduct that connects to certain terrorist related activities, committed by certain US officials and high-level government employees, you have not proposed criminal investigations into this conduct, although under the laws of this country you are required to do so.”

Another FBI translator, who had been “shielding” the targets of FBI investigations, told Sibel Edmonds: “”Why are you doing this, Sibel? Why don’t you just drop it? You know there could be serious consequences. Why put your family in Turkey in danger over this?” Sibel Edmonds’ sister was reportedly sought by Turkish police shortly after this incident.

30. The FBI’s top Al Qaeda investigator, John O’Neill, “resigned in July of 2001 in protest over the obstruction of terrorist investigations.”

31. Two of the alleged hijackers lived openly in San Diego with an FBI informant for over a year: “The FBI inspector general’s report reveals for the first time that the CIA not only failed to inform the FBI about [Al] Mihdhar, but that CIA officials intervened to suppress a memorandum drafted by an FBI agent detailed to the CIA-run Counter-Terrorism Center (CTC), who wanted to notify the FBI about the suspected terrorist with a US visa.”
“One FBI official familiar with the case will later complain, “[The CIA] purposely hid [Almihdhar] from the FBI, purposely refused to tell the bureau. …And that’s why September 11 happened. …They have blood on their hands.” [Bamford, 2004, pp. 224, A Pretext for War: 9/11, Iraq, and the Abuse of America's Intelligence Agencies]

32. The 9/11 Commission, at the orchestration of Bush administration member and “Executive Director” Phillip Zelikow, wrote: “To date, the US government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. …Ultimately the question of the origin of the funds is of little practical significance.”

33. The Times of India reported that Indian Intelligence had traced the wire transfers of over $100,000 from British born terrorist and reported MI6 and ISI asset Omar Saeed Sheikh in the UAE to Mohamed Atta in Florida, on the orders of the head of Pakistani intelligence Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad. This was reportedly confirmed by the FBI. The Pakistani ISI chief Ahmad resigned immediately, but he has never been sought by US authorities for funding and participating in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

34. ISI chief Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad was in Washington DC the week prior to 9/11, meeting with CIA Director George Tenet and other high ranking US officials including Tenet’s replacement at CIA Porter Goss.

35. During the ISI chief’s stay in Washington, Osama bin Laden was reportedly admitted to the Pakistani military hospital in Rawalpindi on September 10, 2001 by CBS News.

36. Osama bin Laden was also reportedly admitted to a US MILITARY HOSPITAL in Dubai, UAE, in July of 2001 for kidney dialysis treatment. There bin Laden is said to have met with the CIA station chief, Larry Mitchell.


38. Senator Bob Graham also said: “High officials in [the Saudi Arabian] government, who I assume were not just rogue officials acting on their own, made substantial contributions to the support and wellbeing of two of these terrorists and facilitated their ability to plan, practise and then execute the tragedy of September 11.” These investigations remain blocked, classified, covered-up and unresolved to this day by the Bush administration’s clear Obstruction of Justice.

39. Senator and 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned, saying: “This is the most serious independent investigation since the Warren Commission. And after watching History Channel shows on the Warren Commission last night, the Warren Commission blew it. I’m not going to be part of that. I’m not going to be part of looking at information only partially. I’m not going to be part of just coming to quick conclusions. I’m not going to be part of political pressure to do this or not do that. I’m not going to be part of that. This is serious.”

40. At least 7 of the alleged “hijackers” were reported to be still alive. Neither the FBI nor the 9/11 Commission corrected the identities, and the government has treated the issue of who exactly attacked America on September 11th as relatively unimportant. The flight manifests released by the airlines did not contain any of the names of the hijackers (who supposedly bought tickets just like everybody else), and there are discrepancies in the number of persons reported to be onboard the airliners. This also has not been explained by officials, at all.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9kEwQud4Ek[/youtube]

41. The Dulles Airport security camera video released as evidence of hijackers has no time or date stamp, nor any other coded information, which suggests that it may not be authentic.

42. The aircraft “black boxes” from the World Trade Center site were admittedly recovered by NYC Fireman Nicholas DeMassi. The FBI, NTSB and the 9/11 Commission all deny they were ever recovered at all.

43. Congress shoveled $15 Billion of taxpayer money to the airlines immediately after 9/11 as one of the first responses to the attacks.

44. The autopsy report from the Pentagon crash site contains no mention of any of the hijackers.

45. Up to 200 Israeli agents were arrested and detained in relation to September 11th. This includes five Mossad agents who were celebrating the World Trade Center job with “cries of joy and mockery.” The Justice Department (sic) released all of the Israelis, and the entire matter was made “classified.”

46. “According to several Weehawken neighbors of the [Israeli MOSSAD front operation] Urban Moving Systems warehouse, the FBI, upon searching the warehouse, discovered fertilizer, other chemicals for making explosives, pipes, caps, and traces of anthrax. After anthrax was discovered, investigators wearing hazardous material suits went through the warehouse.”

47. “On the night of the Sept. 11 attacks, the White House Medical Office dispensed [the anthrax drug] Cipro to staff accompanying Vice President Dick Cheney as he was secreted off to the safety of Camp David…” The public was not warned about anthrax or alerted about Cipro for another six weeks, when anthrax-laden letters were sent through the mail to top Democratic congressmen and to others.

48. “Palestinians” were accused of committing the 9/11 attacks by Israeli MOSSAD operatives. One of the arrested MOSSAD agents told the police, “We are Israelis, we are not your problem. Your problems are our problem. Palestinians are the problem.” A phone call to the “Jersey City Police Department …claimed ‘Palestinians’ in Arab clothes were seen celebrating the attacks.” Was this MOSSAD referring to their own covert agents? At 9:43am on 9/11, “Abu Dhabi television reports it received a call from the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, claiming responsibility for crashing two planes into the WTC. However leading officials later deny the claim.”

49. Israeli instant messaging firm Odigo received warnings of the World Trade Center attacks 2 hours before they occurred

50. Zim American / Israeli Shipping broke its lease in the World Trade Center and evacuated one week before the attacks. The company is 49% owned by the Israeli government.

51. Although the Israeli government sent MOSSAD officers to “warn” the U.S. about imminent terror attacks in August 2001: “‘They had no specific information about what was being planned but linked the plot to Osama bin Laden and told the Americans that there were strong grounds for suspecting Iraqi involvement,’ said a senior Israeli security official.” Mixing Osama bin Laden together with his enemy Saddam Hussein has been a ridiculous propaganda exercise, and exposed as such.

52. Fire has never, before or after 9/11, caused a steel-framed building to completely collapse. Three gigantic steel-framed skyscrapers were alleged to have collapsed from the effects of fire, including the 47 story building 7 which was not hit by a plane. The Twin Towers and building 7 displayed numerous characteristics of controlled demolition including free fall speed, collapsing into footprints, pulverization of all the concrete, and the sounds and appearances of explosive charges, as reported by many eyewitnesses. Needless to say, this has not been investigated officially, because officials refuse to admit the possibility existed at all.

53. “Fire Engineering [Magazine] has good reason to believe that the “official investigation” blessed by FEMA and run by the American Society of Civil Engineers is a half-baked farce that may already have been commandeered by political forces whose primary interests, to put it mildly, lie far afield of full disclosure. Except for the marginal benefit obtained from a three-day, visual walk-through of evidence sites conducted by ASCE investigation committee members- described by one close source as a “tourist trip”-no one’s checking the evidence for anything.”

54. “‘The decision to rapidly recycle the steel columns, beams and trusses from the WTC in the days immediately after 9/11 means definitive answers may never be known.’ The evidence was shipped to China [NY Times] The next week, Fire Engineering magazine said: ‘We are literally treating the steel removed from the site like garbage, not like crucial fire scene evidence …The destruction and removal of evidence must stop immediately.’” (Griffin)

55. Ben Fountain, who worked in the South Tower, told People Magazine, “Over the past few weeks we’d been evacuated a number of times, which is unusual. I think they had an inkling something was going on.”

56. On Thursday, September 6, 2001 bomb-sniffing dogs were removed and the security threat level at the World Trade Center was downgraded.

57. Scott Forbes who worked in the South Tower described a “power down” on the weekend before 9/11, which was corroborated by WTC janitor William Rodriquez in his RICO lawsuit. The power down knocked out communications, computer systems, and security cameras. Numerous workmen were reported, and the sounds of heavy construction, and a pervasive grey dust was found on the 97th floor by Forbes.

58. William Rodriguez also reported bombs in the basement levels and on various floors. After describing a series of explosions, Rodriguez heard that floor 65 had completely collapsed (nowhere near the plane impact zone). Rodriguez also claims to have heard construction on floor
34 affter the plane impacts, a floor that wasn’t in use.

59. President Bush’s brother Marvin Bush had been a director for Securacom (now Stratasec) that was in charge of security for the WTC, United Airlines and Dulles Airport (where Flight 77 originated). An Israeli security firm, ICTS International had security responsibilities at Boston Logan airport and other airports involved in the September 11th attacks.

60. On September 10, 2001 Willie Brown, the mayor of San Francisco, received a warning not to fly. He credited who he called “my security people at the airport.” No FAA warnings had been issued however “in recent days.”

61. “On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns.”

62. “The author Salman Rushdie believes that US authorities knew of an imminent terrorist strike when they banned him from taking internal flights in Canada and the US only a week before the attacks. On September 3 the Federal Aviation Authority made an emergency ruling to prevent Mr Rushdie from flying unless airlines complied with strict and costly security measures.”

63. “The Federal Aviation Administration said Friday it provided 15 warnings to airlines regarding possible terrorist attacks — including al Qaeda hijackings — in the months leading up to September 11. …The FAA mentioned Osama bin Laden or al Qaeda in alerts the agency sent to domestic airlines.” At this same time, July 2001, the FAA inexplicably terminated a firearms certification program for commercial airline pilots, which had made it legal for pilots to be armed since 1961.

64. A military data mining operation called Able Danger created a presentation chart in 2000 that allegedly included four future 9/11 hijackers. Their recommendation to send the data to the FBI was thwarted by military lawyers and by higher ranking officers. Yellow stickers were placed over the photographs of Mohamed Atta and the others. Although this information was brought directly to several of the 9-11 Commissioners, including Phillip Zelikow, it was never mentioned in their final report.

66. “Military records show that hijackers Saeed and Ahmed Alghamdi listed their address on driver licenses and car registrations as 10 Radford Blvd., a military base roadway where residences for foreign-military flight trainees are located, according to Newsweek (9-15-2001) …(A) now-mysteriously deceased, Pensacola naval flight instructor from the Royal Saudi Air Force had the same name [Alghamdi] and also lived and worked at the U.S. naval air base.”

67. “U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in [the 9/11] terror attacks received training at secure U.S. military installations in the 1990s.”

68. “Ali Mohamed was involved with most of the major al Qaeda attacks against U.S. interests: …the 1993 WTC bombing, the African Embassy bombings in 1998 and, even though he was arrested in late 1998, [Peter] Lance proposes that he also helped train some of the 9/11 hijackers in hijacking techniques. Astoundingly, Mohamed participated in these operations while also being a U.S. citizen, being enlisted in the U.S. military, …and being an FBI informant in California. Importantly, …he also had ties to the CIA.”

[grizzaholic]

Jesus fucking christ. You are retarded You are posting shit that is fake, your number 1 is shopped so your entire post is worthless.

You are a disgrace on Americans and why other countries hate us...all because of people like yourself. Do us all a favor and don't leave your house, and don't breed, and starve to death...we thank you. prick

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You're right, the photo is shopped. I'll admit, I was wrong on that.

Here's the video in real time. Ask yourself.. Why isn't the president being rushed out of the classroom..?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ufkWhcUxg[/youtube]

kite.. hit.. steel.. plane... must...

[grizzaholic]

You're right, the photo is shopped. I'll admit, I was wrong on that.

Here's the video in real time. Ask yourself.. Why isn't the president being rushed out of the classroom..?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ufkWhcUxg[/youtube]

kite.. hit.. steel.. plane... must...

It is like talking to a tomato plant with you.

*ignore*

[expandspanos]

So, the president not being rushed out of the classroom, as would be standard operating procedure happened why?

He doesn't want to scare the kids in the classroom?

As soon as word that "the country is under attack" was given, he should be pulled out immediately and taken to a safe location.. that's not at all what happened.

[HI54UNI]

Spanos please explain this - do you really think that all of these conspiracies could be kept quiet? That there isn't someone somewhere that was in on one of these that would feel guilty on their death bed and fess up? Or decide to sell the story for some big bucks? Or whatever other reason? Do you really think that with all the people that would have to be involved in any one of these conspiracy theories you spew that this wouldn't happen?

[expandspanos]

Spanos please explain this - do you really think that all of these conspiracies could be kept quiet? That there isn't someone somewhere that was in on one of these that would feel guilty on their death bed and fess up? Or decide to sell the story for some big bucks? Or whatever other reason? Do you really think that with all the people that would have to be involved in any one of these conspiracy theories you spew that this wouldn't happen?

There are TONS of people who have spoken out: Patriotsquestion911.com

27 year veteran of the FBI, senior special agent in charge wouldn't shut up about it (before he died in 2011):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owLWXEcUV1w[/youtube]
The media is censored, and won't tell anyone this.. People assume nobody is talking out, because they don't see it on the television.

The Special agent in charge of the FBI is coming out saying it's a false flag- and it doesn't make the news.



1,700 architects and engineers say the whole thing is a scam: http://ae911truth.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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On a side note, people all over the world are ambushing the criminal media trying to get the word out.

Vancouver Winter Olympics:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuJ037gsW1Q[/youtube]

Geraldo Rivera New York:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx9YPi6bcjg[/youtube]

Chicago:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Riyztuj2E[/youtube]

[HI54UNI]

Spanos please explain this - do you really think that all of these conspiracies could be kept quiet? That there isn't someone somewhere that was in on one of these that would feel guilty on their death bed and fess up? Or decide to sell the story for some big bucks? Or whatever other reason? Do you really think that with all the people that would have to be involved in any one of these conspiracy theories you spew that this wouldn't happen?

There are TONS of people who have spoken out: Patriotsquestion911.com

27 year veteran of the FBI, senior special agent in charge wouldn't shut up about it (before he died in 2011):

None of this answers my question or provides proof to answer it. You just give links to a bunch of people nuttier than you are.

[Chizzang]

Spanos please explain this - do you really think that all of these conspiracies could be kept quiet? That there isn't someone somewhere that was in on one of these that would feel guilty on their death bed and fess up? Or decide to sell the story for some big bucks? Or whatever other reason? Do you really think that with all the people that would have to be involved in any one of these conspiracy theories you spew that this wouldn't happen?

You do realize that in Guatemala 1954 we over threw a government killed thousands, inserted a dictator and destroyed their local economy - and this is ALL freely available information to the U.S. public today

Guess how many Americans know this fact about our government - less than 1% when asked
Yes that's right - The American people are willfully ignorant - we choose to be ignorant

However:
I am in no way supporting the 9/11 thing
What I'm saying is cover-ups aren't really required when you're working with a population of willfully ignorant willfully uninformed Americans who live in complete denial about so many things

just my 2 cents

[expandspanos]

There are TONS of people who have spoken out: Patriotsquestion911.com

27 year veteran of the FBI, senior special agent in charge wouldn't shut up about it (before he died in 2011):

None of this answers my question or provides proof to answer it. You just give links to a bunch of people nuttier than you are.

What? You don't think someone who has served their country for 27 years and was an FBI special agent isn't a credible enough source? What are you looking for exactly? Are you looking for the 9/11 Commissioner to slip up and say a missile hit the pentagon? Like happened here:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZRFvavH_vk[/youtube]

Do you want George Bush to say that "he told us the operatives made sure the explosives went off at a point that was high enough to make sure people who were trapped above could not escape?" like happened:

Or Rumsfeld to say: "The people who shot down the plane over Pennsylvania.." Like happened here:?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV7-BOEEOzs[/youtube]

WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? Are you looking for a complete confession, like Lloyd England gave? That is provided here:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o[/youtube]
(@ 1:11:41 in the video)

The confession given above Lloyd England:

"Do you know what history is? It's has nothing to do with the truth, it's his story.. This is too big for me man, this is a big thing.. Man, you know this is a world thing happening, I'm a small man.. My lifestyle is completely different than this... I'm not supposed to be involved in this... This is for other people, people who have money and this kind of stuff...

Well, I'm not supposed to be involved in this, I don't have nothing.. [the people that have all the money] this is their thing... This is for them.. That's right.. I'm not supposed to be in it."

That's a confession

[HI54UNI]

[CID1990]

None of this answers my question or provides proof to answer it. You just give links to a bunch of people nuttier than you are.

What? You don't think someone who has served their country for 27 years and was an FBI special agent isn't a credible enough source? What are you looking for exactly? Are you looking for the 9/11 Commissioner to slip up and say a missile hit the pentagon? Like happened here:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZRFvavH_vk[/youtube]

Do you want George Bush to say that "he told us the operatives made sure the explosives went off at a point that was high enough to make sure people who were trapped above could not escape?" like happened:

Or Rumsfeld to say: "The people who shot down the plane over Pennsylvania.." Like happened here:?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV7-BOEEOzs[/youtube]

WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? Are you looking for a complete confession, like Lloyd England gave? That is provided here:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o[/youtube]
(@ 1:11:41 in the video)

The confession given above Lloyd England:

"Do you know what history is? It's has nothing to do with the truth, it's his story.. This is too big for me man, this is a big thing.. Man, you know this is a world thing happening, I'm a small man.. My lifestyle is completely different than this... I'm not supposed to be involved in this... This is for other people, people who have money and this kind of stuff...

Well, I'm not supposed to be involved in this, I don't have nothing.. [the people that have all the money] this is their thing... This is for them.. That's right.. I'm not supposed to be in it."

That's a confession

[Ivytalk]

Ace Ventura: great entertainer. No business being in public life, however.

[kalm]

Ace Ventura: great entertainer. No business being in public life, however.

They're all entertainers, Ivy.