US Strikes Iran Part 2.

[BDKJMU]

Son named next Supreme Leader. He‘s a dead man walking.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-sancti ... th-reports

[BDKJMU]

Typical donk hypocrisy..

[UNI88]

[kalm]

What’s the big deal? He thinks they’re losers and suckers anyway.

[BDKJMU]

What’s the big deal? He thinks they’re losers and suckers anyway.

You forgot hoax.

Meanwhile

[UNI88]

White House blocks intelligence report warning of rising US homeland terror threat linked to Iran war

Top Trump officials ordered it placed on ‘hold’. The White House did not deny blocking the terror bulletin in a statement to the Daily Mail.

'The White House is coordinating closely with all government agencies to ensure information being disseminated is accurate, up to date, and has been properly vetted — even if that means taking additional time to review to ensure nothing is done in a vacuum,' said White House spokeswoman Abigail Jackson.

America First? No, it's Me (as in trump) first.

[Caribbean Hen]

What’s the big deal? He thinks they’re losers and suckers anyway.

You forgot hoax.

Meanwhile

Ladies and Gentlemen

This is Joey Rotten

[UNI88]

Ladies and Gentlemen

This is disrespectful donny the dipshit.

[GannonFan]

I don't think there's a lot to argue - both Biden and Trump were/are crappy Presidents and both have glaring examples of disrespect at solemn occasions as they relate to military services for fallen soldiers. We can and should do better. 2028 can't get here soon enough, except we need to start seeing better options than what we're already seeing (not really a Vance or Newsom fan). And FOX should be called out for putting out older press footage so that they didn't have to show Trump keeping on a campaign hat while at this event. Any hat would've been bad, a campaign hat just even much more so.

[GannonFan]

Getting back to Iran war itself, gonna have to hear or see more from Trump as to where this is going and how it's supposed to work out in the end. Iran needs to be significantly different leadership-wise than when this started or it's all going to be for naught. If after this Iran is still in a position to be funding and supplying proxy groups throughout the Middle East then it won't have been worth it. Are we going to get to a better place after all of this or not? A lot at stake here and screwing this up isn't a great option.

[UNI88]

Getting back to Iran war itself, gonna have to hear or see more from Trump as to where this is going and how it's supposed to work out in the end. Iran needs to be significantly different leadership-wise than when this started or it's all going to be for naught. If after this Iran is still in a position to be funding and supplying proxy groups throughout the Middle East then it won't have been worth it. Are we going to get to a better place after all of this or not? A lot at stake here and screwing this up isn't a great option.

What if that takes boots on the ground and lots of KIAs?

Is there no value to degrading Iran's military capabilities?

Do you trust trump to not attempt to install a dictator friendly to the US? Have we learned any lessons from overthrowing Mosaddegh and installing the Shah?

[Caribbean Hen]

I don't think there's a lot to argue - both Biden and Trump were/are crappy Presidents and both have glaring examples of disrespect at solemn occasions as they relate to military services for fallen soldiers. We can and should do better. 2028 can't get here soon enough, except we need to start seeing better options than what we're already seeing (not really a Vance or Newsom fan). And FOX should be called out for putting out older press footage so that they didn't have to show Trump keeping on a campaign hat while at this event. Any hat would've been bad, a campaign hat just even much more so.

Rubio

[UNI88]

I don't think there's a lot to argue - both Biden and Trump were/are crappy Presidents and both have glaring examples of disrespect at solemn occasions as they relate to military services for fallen soldiers. We can and should do better. 2028 can't get here soon enough, except we need to start seeing better options than what we're already seeing (not really a Vance or Newsom fan). And FOX should be called out for putting out older press footage so that they didn't have to show Trump keeping on a campaign hat while at this event. Any hat would've been bad, a campaign hat just even much more so.

Rubio

Gov. Andy Beshear
Gov. Wes Moore
Gov. Josh Shapiro
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

Someone who knows how to lead an executive branch.

[GannonFan]

Getting back to Iran war itself, gonna have to hear or see more from Trump as to where this is going and how it's supposed to work out in the end. Iran needs to be significantly different leadership-wise than when this started or it's all going to be for naught. If after this Iran is still in a position to be funding and supplying proxy groups throughout the Middle East then it won't have been worth it. Are we going to get to a better place after all of this or not? A lot at stake here and screwing this up isn't a great option.

What if that takes boots on the ground and lots of KIAs?

Is there no value to degrading Iran's military capabilities?

Do you trust trump to not attempt to install a dictator friendly to the US? Have we learned any lessons from overthrowing Mosaddegh and installing the Shah?

The second question first, it's no good if we degrade their capabilities and then, when we're done, they can easily build them up again. It's not like Iran had a bunch of really hi-tech stuff. Even their "navy" wouldn't take all that long to reconstitute. If we finish, and within a year they're back at it harassing ships in the Persian Gulf and funneling weapons and technologies to their proxies and they in turn are firing at us, we'd be right back to square one, just with some of our own people dead and billions of dollars spent for nothing.

Boots on the ground, in any significant number (not just special forces or CIA) isn't a showstopper, but I don't know how it would ever be approved. Congress isn't going to go along with that in an election year and we couldn't really mobilize a huge number in that short period of time. But again, the end result has to be known and has to be possible. Again, it's basically decent people in charge of Iran, which they haven't had in 50 years. How do we get to that?

And no, I don't trust Trump to really do anything, except something that's in his personal interest, especially financially. I don't think Trump has learned any lessons as I'm not sure he'd even know who those folks are you reference.

[GannonFan]

I don't think there's a lot to argue - both Biden and Trump were/are crappy Presidents and both have glaring examples of disrespect at solemn occasions as they relate to military services for fallen soldiers. We can and should do better. 2028 can't get here soon enough, except we need to start seeing better options than what we're already seeing (not really a Vance or Newsom fan). And FOX should be called out for putting out older press footage so that they didn't have to show Trump keeping on a campaign hat while at this event. Any hat would've been bad, a campaign hat just even much more so.

Rubio

I'd be fine with him, especially with Trump out of the picture. Not sure who else the GOP would have on the bench past him. Imagine there's a governor somewhere.

[GannonFan]

Rubio

Gov. Andy Beshear
Gov. Wes Moore
Gov. Josh Shapiro
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

Someone who knows how to lead an executive branch.

I wouldn't include Whitmer in that grouping, I don't think she's electable nationwide. And I do like that the list doesn't include Harris, who I can't believe some people are seriously considering. But I do like that list if you stop with the first three. And as a PA resident, it would be nice to finally get a decent President from this state - the first two at bats with Buchanan and Biden have been somewhat disastrous.

[kalm]

Rubio

Gov. Andy Beshear
Gov. Wes Moore
Gov. Josh Shapiro
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

Someone who knows how to lead an executive branch.

Beshear seems the most preferable to me. The other three Dems are establishment, and serving in the current administration should be an auto DQ.

[BDKJMU]

Ladies and Gentlemen

This is disrespectful donny the dipshit.

How? It’s outside. The hat says USA, not MAGA or something else political.

[kalm]

And…they still don’t have a plan….

[BDKJMU]

And just like that the oil market reacts immediately. Yesterday oil (WTI) hit over $118. Has since plummeted over 25%.
https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/#WTI-Crude

[GannonFan]

And just like that the oil market reacts immediately. Yesterday oil (WTI) hit over $118. Has since plummeted over 25%.
https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/#WTI-Crude

Of course, it will also depend on how fast gas stations follow suit with actual prices to consumers. Pretty much within 24 hours of the first attacks the Wawa close to me went from $2.85 to $3.00. A day later it jumped to $3.25. Today it's $3.65. Are they going to come back down as fast as they went up? I'm thinking about carrying more cash and hitting those cash discount places now. I paid $3.35 at a Sunoco today so I thought that was good bargain finding.

[BDKJMU]

And just like that the oil market reacts immediately. Yesterday oil (WTI) hit over $118. Has since plummeted over 25%.
https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/#WTI-Crude

Of course, it will also depend on how fast gas stations follow suit with actual prices to consumers. Pretty much within 24 hours of the first attacks the Wawa close to me went from $2.85 to $3.00. A day later it jumped to $3.25. Today it's $3.65. Are they going to come back down as fast as they went up? I'm thinking about carrying more cash and hitting those cash discount places now. I paid $3.35 at a Sunoco today so I thought that was good bargain finding.

Yeah that is bullshit they take 2-3x as long to come down as it comes up.

[UNI88]

Oops

[Caribbean Hen]

Ladies and Gentlemen

This is disrespectful donny the dipshit.

How? It’s outside. The hat says USA, not MAGA or something else political.

Trump is saluting and JoBozo Rotten Biden was looking at his watch.. but it’s comparable somehow?

Weird what TDS does to people

[UNI88]

Ladies and Gentlemen

This is disrespectful donny the dipshit.

How? It’s outside. The hat says USA, not MAGA or something else political.

He is a civilian and it is a sign of respect to remove your hat, indoors or outdoors, just like one should do for the national anthem.

The fvck your feelings crowd that gets their panties in a bunch over someone kneeling during the national anthem is rushing to defend trump for a similar breech of etiquette.

The hypocrisy and the "we'll defend anything and everything trump does" approach is noted.