US Strikes Iran Part 2.

[GannonFan]

Can't you say the same thing about the people who got stuck in Afghanistan? Did CH tell them to tough it out or did he blame biden?

There is a double standard here that applies to MAQA and the left.

How many U.S. tourist were in Afghanistan?

How many of them were there at the time of Joe bozo‘s embarrassing withdrawal?

Well, I don't think they were tourists there. Clearly one of the many issues with Biden's rapid withdraw from Afghanistan was leaving behind so many Afghanis who helped us while we were there and who would be at risk because of that once the Taliban resumed power. But tourists, no.

[UNI88]

Can't you say the same thing about the people who got stuck in Afghanistan? Did CH tell them to tough it out or did he blame biden?

There is a double standard here that applies to MAQA and the left.

How many U.S. tourist were in Afghanistan?

How many of them were there at the time of Joe bozo‘s implementation of trump's embarrassing withdrawal plan?

What about NGO workers? Why should biden be criticized for not getting them out and trump be given a pass for tourists? The expectations for NGO workers to be aware of the situation should be higher than it is for tourists.

[Caribbean Hen]

How many U.S. tourist were in Afghanistan?

How many of them were there at the time of Joe bozo‘s embarrassing withdrawal?

Well, I don't think they were tourists there. Clearly one of the many issues with Biden's rapid withdraw from Afghanistan was leaving behind so many Afghanis who helped us while we were there and who would be at risk because of that once the Taliban resumed power. But tourists, no.

No, I don’t think there were any tourists there either. I only asked because Klams friend is a tourist and basically hoping that 88 would just stop with the non sensical comparisons … a tourist in Dubai at the beginning of an attack on Iran is just not comparable to a withdrawal from Afghanistan at the end of an operation…. A conflict were too many Americans died and for what…

[UNI88]

Well, I don't think they were tourists there. Clearly one of the many issues with Biden's rapid withdraw from Afghanistan was leaving behind so many Afghanis who helped us while we were there and who would be at risk because of that once the Taliban resumed power. But tourists, no.

No, I don’t think there were any tourists there either. I only asked because Klams friend is a tourist and basically hoping that 88 would just stop with the non sensical comparisons … a tourist in Dubai at the beginning of an attack on Iran is just not comparable to a withdrawal from Afghanistan at the end of an operation…. A conflict were too many Americans died and for what…

What about NGO workers? Why should biden be criticized for not getting them out and trump be given a pass for tourists? The expectations for NGO workers to be aware of the situation should be higher than it is for tourists.

I agree that too many died in Afghanistan and worry we're headed down a similar road with Iran, especially if Whiskeyleaks gets his way.

[kalm]

No, I don’t think there were any tourists there either. I only asked because Klams friend is a tourist and basically hoping that 88 would just stop with the non sensical comparisons … a tourist in Dubai at the beginning of an attack on Iran is just not comparable to a withdrawal from Afghanistan at the end of an operation…. A conflict were too many Americans died and for what…

What about NGO workers? Why should biden be criticized for not getting them out and trump be given a pass for tourists? The expectations for NGO workers to be aware of the situation should be higher than it is for tourists.

I agree that too many died in Afghanistan and worry we're headed down a similar road with Iran, especially if Whiskeyleaks gets his way.

I’m guessing there weren’t that many US tourists in Dubai.

I heard they had two planes ready to evacuate but Patel needed one to watch his girlfriend karaoke in Nashville and Noem and Lewindowski were humping in the other on her way to the next photo shoot.

[Caribbean Hen]

What about NGO workers? Why should biden be criticized for not getting them out and trump be given a pass for tourists? The expectations for NGO workers to be aware of the situation should be higher than it is for tourists.

I agree that too many died in Afghanistan and worry we're headed down a similar road with Iran, especially if Whiskeyleaks gets his way.

I’m guessing there weren’t that many US tourists in Dubai.

I heard they had two planes ready to evacuate but Patel needed one to watch his girlfriend karaoke in Nashville and Noem and Lewindowski were humping in the other on her way to the next photo shoot.

Travelers stranded in Dubai have been left scrambling to find a way home after the airport closed due to the U.S.-Israeli joint military offensive, Operation Epic Fury.

Dubai's two major hubs, Dubai International Airport (DXB) and Dubai World Central (DWC), reopened March 2 with limited operations, according to The Economic Times. But that hasn't stopped travelers with means from trying to find other ways to flee. Some wealthy travelers have resorted to paying large sums for private charter flights to escape the escalating situation.

A spokesperson for Air Charter Service, a company that acts as a global broker for private jets and freight transport, told FOX Business that "demand is definitely increasing" as Operation Epic Fury continues.

[BDKJMU]

Ayatollah’s son is leading contender to be Iran’s next supreme leader

Mojtaba Khamenei, the second son of the former Supreme Leader, who was killed in an air strike on Saturday, is being considered by the regime’s senior clerics to be the next supreme leader, according to The New York Times.

It reported that clerics met virtually on Tuesday to discuss the new leadership of the Islamic Republic, which has been decimated by American and Israeli attacks.
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Mr Khamenei, a 56-year-old hardliner who has managed his father’s office and networks for years, is believed to be the clear front-runner and could be named as early as Wednesday morning. For years, he has been seen as one of the top candidates to succeed his father.

Does this really qualify as regime change?

If he is selected, he won‘t be around for long lol. He‘ll share the same fate as his daddy.

[UNI88]

Ayatollah’s son is leading contender to be Iran’s next supreme leader
Does this really qualify as regime change?

If he is selected, he won‘t be around for long lol. He‘ll share the same fate as his daddy.

I'm not sure about that. He'll likely keep a very low profile. He'll also have the knowledge and resources of the RG, Quds, and all their proxy militias to lean on to help him stay hidden.


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[BDKJMU]

53 donks in the House don‘t believe Iran is the worlds largest state sponsor of terrorism.

[BDKJMU]

Democrat War Powers resolution fails.

[BDKJMU]

UK folds.

An arsenal of US stealth bombers is expected to soon reach UK military bases as President Trump warned Iran that “the big one” could be imminent.

American B-2 stealth bombers were slated to land at air bases at Diego Garcia in the Chagos Islands and RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire after the British government initially rejected the Trump administration’s request to carry out strikes from the bases, according to reports.

But Prime Minister Keir Starmer later reversed course, allowing the US fleet to use UK runways within “a matter of days,” the Telegraph reported Wednesday.

He granted permission to use the sites for limited defensive purposes after Iran started shooting indiscriminately at allies in the Middle East, the outlet reported Friday.

Trump threatened Iran on Monday that “the big one is coming” as he vowed to ramp up strikes on the Islamic Republic after war broke out last weekend…..

https://nypost.com/2026/03/06/world-new ... n-attacks/

[kalm]

[GannonFan]

Well, we spent multiple years not sanctioning oil from Russia under the prior administration, with little to no criticism, in an effort to bolster electoral odds of one party, so it's hard to get too upset about a 30 day reprieve to let India buy Russian oil while we deal with Iran. If it goes another 30 days after that, or longer, then we can start ramping up the howls.

[kalm]

Well, we spent multiple years not sanctioning oil from Russia under the prior administration, with little to no criticism, in an effort to bolster electoral odds of one party, so it's hard to get too upset about a 30 day reprieve to let India buy Russian oil while we deal with Iran. If it goes another 30 days after that, or longer, then we can start ramping up the howls.

Regardless, it’s financially helping an enemy and who is on friendly terms (at least as far as drone sales) with Iran. None of what has happened changes Russia’s war of choice and angression against Ukraine. Other than starting our own such war which now further validates Russia.

[GannonFan]

Well, we spent multiple years not sanctioning oil from Russia under the prior administration, with little to no criticism, in an effort to bolster electoral odds of one party, so it's hard to get too upset about a 30 day reprieve to let India buy Russian oil while we deal with Iran. If it goes another 30 days after that, or longer, then we can start ramping up the howls.

Regardless, it’s financially helping an enemy and who is on friendly terms (at least as far as drone sales) with Iran. None of what has happened changes Russia’s war of choice and angression against Ukraine. Other than starting our own such war which now further validates Russia.

They're not the same, only if you believe the Russian propaganda (and considering your deep dive into the depths of the internet to find stories that cater to your pre-conceived beliefs, you might actually believe it). The Ukraine was never attacking Russia - on the contrary, Russia had been using proxies for the past decade to enter Ukraine and fight in the eastern provinces. Iran, on the other hand, had been using proxies for decades to attack American interests and forces in and around the region. Russia started a war to gain territory. We started a war to put to an end a rogue actor who had financed other parties to shoot at us for years. Debating whether we should've or not is a valid point of discussion. Equating what we're doing with Iran with what Russia is trying to do with Ukraine isn't.

[BDKJMU]

Iran could never be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon. If Iran gets nukes, Iran would probably try to nuke Israel, and Israel would retaliate. Also if Iran gets nukes, then all the other ME countries are gonna want them as well.

US & Israel doing the same to Iran what should have been done to N Korea in the 1990s. If that had been, we‘d have one Korea now that was like S Korea.

Once a country gets nukes, it’s a game changer as to what can be done to them. If Ukraine had never given up their nukes, Russia wouldn’t have invaded.

[UNI88]

Well, we spent multiple years not sanctioning oil from Russia under the prior administration, with little to no criticism, in an effort to bolster electoral odds of one party, so it's hard to get too upset about a 30 day reprieve to let India buy Russian oil while we deal with Iran. If it goes another 30 days after that, or longer, then we can start ramping up the howls.

biden did it too or first is not a valid justification.

Regardless, it’s financially helping an enemy and who is on friendly terms (at least as far as drone sales) with Iran. None of what has happened changes Russia’s war of choice and angression against Ukraine. Other than starting our own such war which now further validates Russia.

They're not the same, only if you believe the Russian propaganda (and considering your deep dive into the depths of the internet to find stories that cater to your pre-conceived beliefs, you might actually believe it). The Ukraine was never attacking Russia - on the contrary, Russia had been using proxies for the past decade to enter Ukraine and fight in the eastern provinces. Iran, on the other hand, had been using proxies for decades to attack American interests and forces in and around the region. Russia started a war to gain territory. We started a war to put to an end a rogue actor who had financed other parties to shoot at us for years. Debating whether we should've or not is a valid point of discussion. Equating what we're doing with Iran with what Russia is trying to do with Ukraine isn't.

It's not an apples to apples comparison but there are similarities when you factor in international law.

[GannonFan]

Well, we spent multiple years not sanctioning oil from Russia under the prior administration, with little to no criticism, in an effort to bolster electoral odds of one party, so it's hard to get too upset about a 30 day reprieve to let India buy Russian oil while we deal with Iran. If it goes another 30 days after that, or longer, then we can start ramping up the howls.

biden did it too or first is not a valid justification.

They're not the same, only if you believe the Russian propaganda (and considering your deep dive into the depths of the internet to find stories that cater to your pre-conceived beliefs, you might actually believe it). The Ukraine was never attacking Russia - on the contrary, Russia had been using proxies for the past decade to enter Ukraine and fight in the eastern provinces. Iran, on the other hand, had been using proxies for decades to attack American interests and forces in and around the region. Russia started a war to gain territory. We started a war to put to an end a rogue actor who had financed other parties to shoot at us for years. Debating whether we should've or not is a valid point of discussion. Equating what we're doing with Iran with what Russia is trying to do with Ukraine isn't.

It's not an apples to apples comparison but there are similarities when you factor in international law.

Didn't say it was a justification - I said that doing it for a short term (the 30 days that it's cleared for now) isn't a game changer in any way. But pointing out that critics of even this said absolutely nothing about Russia being allowed to sell oil without nary a sanction for the first 3 years of that war under the prior administration, and now howling about it now, are being disingenuous.

And sure, there are plenty of similarities for anything if you dig deep enough. But your first phrase was enough - it's not an apples to apples comparison as kalm indicated it was.

[kalm]

Regardless, it’s financially helping an enemy and who is on friendly terms (at least as far as drone sales) with Iran. None of what has happened changes Russia’s war of choice and angression against Ukraine. Other than starting our own such war which now further validates Russia.

They're not the same, only if you believe the Russian propaganda (and considering your deep dive into the depths of the internet to find stories that cater to your pre-conceived beliefs, you might actually believe it). The Ukraine was never attacking Russia - on the contrary, Russia had been using proxies for the past decade to enter Ukraine and fight in the eastern provinces. Iran, on the other hand, had been using proxies for decades to attack American interests and forces in and around the region. Russia started a war to gain territory. We started a war to put to an end a rogue actor who had financed other parties to shoot at us for years. Debating whether we should've or not is a valid point of discussion. Equating what we're doing with Iran with what Russia is trying to do with Ukraine isn't.

Instead of trying to come up with an insult, point out where I said they’re the same.

[UNI88]

biden did it too or first is not a valid justification.

It's not an apples to apples comparison but there are similarities when you factor in international law.

Didn't say it was a justification - I said that doing it for a short term (the 30 days that it's cleared for now) isn't a game changer in any way. But pointing out that critics of even this said absolutely nothing about Russia being allowed to sell oil without nary a sanction for the first 3 years of that war under the prior administration, and now howling about it now, are being disingenuous.

And sure, there are plenty of similarities for anything if you dig deep enough. But your first phrase was enough - it's not an apples to apples comparison as kalm indicated it was.

The bombing of Iran likely violates the UN Charter’s prohibition on aggression (there was no imminent armed attack by Iran and it was not authorized by the UN Security Council) and possibly other international laws.

Is it not ironic that the allegedly "America First" trump regime is giving russia this reprieve when russia supports Iran?

[Skjellyfetti]

Well, we spent multiple years not sanctioning oil from Russia under the prior administration, with little to no criticism

False. Or, did you mean multiple weeks?

February 24, 2022: Russia invades Ukraine
March 8, 2022: Biden Sanctions Russian oil
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/08/10850890 ... russia-oil

[GannonFan]

Well, we spent multiple years not sanctioning oil from Russia under the prior administration, with little to no criticism

False. Or, did you mean multiple weeks?

February 24, 2022: Russia invades Ukraine
March 8, 2022: Biden Sanctions Russian oil
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/08/10850890 ... russia-oil

Oh please, that sanction was just the US no longer importing Russian oil or NG, which amounted to very little of what we imported. And it was more than offset by other countries not following suit. All that happened was the pieces on the game board were rearranged. It was basically for show. Russia continued to finance their war in Ukraine without hiccup and we were more than happy for that outcome as it tempered rises in oil prices and didn't raise the ire of voters. We were very careful not to stop Russia from supplying oil to the world, impacts on Ukraine be damned.

[kalm]

biden did it too or first is not a valid justification.



It's not an apples to apples comparison but there are similarities when you factor in international law.

Didn't say it was a justification - I said that doing it for a short term (the 30 days that it's cleared for now) isn't a game changer in any way. But pointing out that critics of even this said absolutely nothing about Russia being allowed to sell oil without nary a sanction for the first 3 years of that war under the prior administration, and now howling about it now, are being disingenuous.

And sure, there are plenty of similarities for anything if you dig deep enough. But your first phrase was enough - it's not an apples to apples comparison as kalm indicated it was.

IIRC, pro-Ukrainian critics wanted Russia’s ability to fund the war shut down as much as possible. It is disappointing that they haven’t been. The current situation doesn’t help. Your underlying Machiavellian explanation notwithstanding.

[Caribbean Hen]

Well, we spent multiple years not sanctioning oil from Russia under the prior administration, with little to no criticism

False. Or, did you mean multiple weeks?

February 24, 2022: Russia invades Ukraine
March 8, 2022: Biden Sanctions Russian oil
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/08/10850890 ... russia-oil

My goodness son

Consider investing in a remote control

But hopefully CNN will be centering up soon enough to help you recover from your port list

[Caribbean Hen]

The U.S. State Department said on Saturday that more than 28,000 American citizens had returned to the U.S. from the Middle East since the start of Operation Epic Fury. The department said the figures do not include Americans who safely relocated to other countries or those who have left the Middle East and are on their way to the U.S.