UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:18 pm
dbackjon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:37 pm
The Electoral College is an outdated vestige of slavery. The Republicans in 90% of elections can't win the popular vote.
How are the Democrats trying to undermine the Senate?
The GOP has undermined the House and state governments with extreme gerrymandering.
The GOP is 3/4 of the way to the authoritarian government already
The Electoral College is not an outdated vestige of slavery. There were a number of reasons that contributed to it's forming but I don't think slavery was a top reason much less the only or primary reason.
Proof that "Republicans in 90% of elections can't win the popular vote"? You made a statement, prove it without adding any qualifiers after the fact.
Trying to weaken the filibuster is undermining the Senate.
Both parties engage in gerrymandering. Take a look at Illinois and Oregon for examples of the Democratic party doing it.
Both parties are 3/4 of the way to authoritarian government.
Well done, saved me the trouble of dismissing many of those tropes.
Also, the undermining of the Senate is more than the filibuster, it's also the move to make DC into a state, primarily to increase the number of secure Dem seats. If we were so interested in getting members of Congress in the House and Senate for DC voters, why not just have Maryland reabsorb that city? We gave back to Virginia the parts of DC they originally offered up so why can't the same be done for the Maryland portion? I know the answer, because it doesn't increase the number of Dem senators by 2 so that's why. And this is from a guy who'd be perfectly okay with admitting Puerto Rico as a state, if that's what the folks from Puerto Rico wanted, even though that too would likely be 2 secure Democratic seats in the Senate (although, given the shift in Hispanic voting, not a sure thing forever apparently, hence why the Dems seem to be more focused on DC).
And yes, the gerrymandering is done to equal effect on both sides. Blue states get bluer and red states get redder, and most of it is due to creating that through district maps. We're not down to maybe 30 competitive House districts every two years from a purely GOP gerrymandering effort.