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		<description><![CDATA[Rob Weiss, FCS Update: The 2009 season is off to a great start. The debate over who is the best team in the country is heating up more and more each week. Between the 3 major polls (AGS, Coaches, and TSN) there are 6 different teams with first place votes. While Richmond is the consensus [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob Weiss, FCS Update:</p>
<p>The 2009 season is off to a great start. The debate over who is the best team in the country is heating up more and more each week. Between the 3 major polls (AGS, Coaches, and TSN) there are 6 different teams with first place votes.</p>
<p>While <strong>Richmond</strong> is the consensus pick between the 3 polls, one has to wonder if this is based on this year&#8217;s performance, or if voters picked Richmond in the preseason and left them there.</p>
<p>I would like to see all polls wait until after week 5 of the season to start their voting. I think you would find the number one votes more equally spread out across teams like <strong>Villanova, Montana, Richmond, William and Mary, Northern Iowa </strong>and<strong> New Hampshire</strong>.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t think any one of those teams is a clear cut number one, I&#8217;d like to see what the polls would look like based solely on a teams resume.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;d see<strong> South Dakota State</strong> and <strong>Massachusetts</strong> higher, and <strong>Appalachian State</strong> and <strong>Elon</strong> lower. We also might find <strong>Cal Poly, Furman</strong>, and <strong>Delaware</strong> out of the polls, with <strong>Florida A&amp;M, Stephen F Austin,</strong> and <strong>Youngstown State</strong> in.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that the majority of the voters in these polls do not compare resumes on a week to week basis. Most of them are sliding teams up and down with wins and losses. Teams who start off low or out of the polls can beat a top team and still end up in the middle, even though they may in fact be a top ten team.</p>
<p>Look at these examples:</p>
<p><em><strong>Coaches Poll</strong></em>:</p>
<p><strong>Cal Poly </strong>at 17. They started at 14 and have only dropped 3 spots. The Mustangs are clearly not the same team they were last year and have a 1-2 record. While the two losses were to FBS teams, they were to perennial cellar dwellers in non-BCS conferences. Coming into the season I expected<strong> Cal Poly</strong> to win both of them.</p>
<p><strong>Montana State</strong> at 25. The Bobcats have hardly earned a ranking. After taking a beating from <strong>Michigan State</strong>, MSU beat lowly D-II school, <strong>Dixie State </strong>and then beat a weak <strong>Northern Colorado</strong> team, who on top of trying to build their program was fighting the injury bug.</p>
<p>Others recieving votes?</p>
<p> <strong>Butler</strong>. The Bulldogs are 4-0. Deserving of votes, right? Not so fast. 3 of the 4 wins were against sub D-I opponents.<span style="color: #ff0000"><em><strong> 3! </strong></em><span style="color: #000000">Their<em><strong> </strong></em>other win was an overtime victory over <strong>Morehead State, </strong>a team that gave <strong>St. Francis (PA)</strong> their first win in over a year when the Red Flash dominated them 31-0. Clearly the person who voted for them: A) Doesn&#8217;t pay attention or B) is a homer.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000">The coaches poll is flawed because most coaches are focused on their team and their opponents. They don&#8217;t watch the rest of the top 30 teams in the country. Most of the time the voting isn&#8217;t handled by the coaches anyway.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>TSN Poll:</em></strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Weber State </strong>at #11. While the Wildcats shouldn&#8217;t be ruled out of the 2009 Big Sky race, they are entirely too high in the poll.  Last weekends last second victory over <strong>Portland state</strong> moved them to 2-2. Their other win came against 0-4 <strong>Idaho State</strong>. Yes the 2 losses came to FBS teams, but they could have won both of those games. In my opinion good teams find ways to win close games. 5 spots too high.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Cal Poly </strong>at #19. <em>See coaches poll.</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000">Others receiving votes?</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000">The TSN has quite a few: </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Winston-Salem State</strong>16 votes. Record? 0-4&#8230;.seriously&#8230;.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Jacksonville</strong> 8 votes. The Dolphins are 1-2 with no D-I wins. One of their losses was at home to <strong>Old Dominion</strong>, a first year team.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Butler</strong> 4 votes. <em>See Coaches Poll.</em></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Dayton</strong> 3 votes. 2-1 with a loss to a sub D-I school. The wins weren&#8217;t even impressive. Close games against weak schools.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Georgia Southern</strong> 1 vote. 1 vote too many. The Eagles are DOWN this year. They have a young team and have nothing to garner even one vote.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>North Dakota State</strong> 1 vote<strong>. </strong>Only win is against <strong>Wagner</strong>. 1-3 heading into week 5.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>San Diego</strong> 1 vote. Non scholarship team with a 2-1 record. Loss?  </span></span><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong>Northern Colorado</strong>. UNC is not a powerhouse, yet the USD lost by 19. Wins over a sub D-I school and weak non-scholarship <strong>Marist </strong>do not garner votes.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000">It&#8217;s clear to me that the TSN poll has too many Pioneer reps, or one very irresponsible Pioneer voter. The votes for an 0-4 WSSU just baffles me. The TSN poll could be a good poll if they cut the fat in their membership.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000"><strong><em>AGS poll:</em></strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000">Outside of <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>State </strong>and <strong>Cal Poly</strong> being too high, I dont have too many complaints. Every poll can be debated, but the AGS poll seems the most balanced at this point in time.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000">Others receiving votes?</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000">Nothing too weird. Maybe there were some, but the AGS poll doesn&#8217;t list the teams with less than 5 votes.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="color: #000000">The best thing about the polls is that they aren&#8217;t that important. We&#8217;re lucky enough to have a playoff system in place, and starting next year an extra 4 teams will get to join in. If you take care of business in your conference, you&#8217;re in, whether you&#8217;re ranked or not. </span></span></p>
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